Pro Tip for PvErs doing Midyear Mayhem

spartaxoxo

This works especially well if you have multiple toons in multiple alliances, but....

Go down to the sewers and see if your alliance has a strong presence at the top. If so, go and do ALL of the dailies on your toon but DON'T turn them all in at once. There are 6 in total, and you can find them at the top of the ladders.

Hold on to them and turn in one per day. Now you don't have to worry about zerg this or campers that!

I did this on 3 characters just before MYM started, personally. And it was a great decision. Now I don't have to care who is controlling what. Just port, turn in, and then off to Cyro.

Mayrael

This deserves more attention. It's really brilliant approach

grkkll

Wish I'd read this on Wednesday .!

dominguero96

Second tip:

As a PVEr you don't enter a vet dungeon/trial with 10k health (because you will die). PVP is the same, you need to use specific gear and stats. As a veteran pvp player, if I see a player with less than 20k health well, that is easy alliance points.

If you want to do the quests and not die thousand times, I recommend +20k health, around 20-25k resists and most important: being able to heal yourself.

Good luck and try to take it patiently!

spartaxoxo

dominguero96 wrote: »

Second tip:

As a PVEr you don't enter a vet dungeon/trial with 10k health (because you will die). PVP is the same, you need to use specific gear and stats. As a veteran pvp player, if I see a player with less than 20k health well, that is easy alliance points.

If you want to do the quests and not die thousand times, I recommend +20k health, around 20-25k resists and most important: being able to heal yourself.

Good luck and try to take it patiently!

I'm actually geared in stuff that I have used in the past for no death runs. It isn't as good as real pvp gear, but it has allowed me on a few occasions to kill the small amount of pve'ers who have tried to kill me, or to live long enough that someone from my alliance can back me up when a pvp'er attacks me.

If your own alliance controls the area you are in, you are way, way less likely to be killed because it will really only be zerg v zerg that still get ya.

Minimizing the odds of being killed is the reason to wait until your alliance has a strong presence up top. There is strength in numbers.

WhyMustItBe

These are indeed good tips.

Another tip I would personally recommend is obviously not to attack other players, and if you are attacked, to do absolutely nothing. Do not fight back, do not resist. Just face your attacker calmly, weapon sheathed, standing there letting them get whatever joy it is they gain from attacking a defenseless target offering no challenge.

That way you maintain the moral high ground and they possibly question whether a few alliance points they could have easily tripled or more taking a simple lumber mill or other resource in Cyrodill was really worth the way they probably look in the eyes of their fellow players.

It might seem like I'm over thinking things, but if you try it you might find that uncomfortable heart-pumping frustration that so often comes of struggling to defend yourself and failing (due to not spending money to gold specific PVP gear and change your action bar just for one event) is largely negated by a transcendent mental attitude that effectively says "just because I have to do this doesn't mean I have to like it or behave the way I'm supposed to."

It also helps not to care. But on the flip side if you are the type of person that cares you might also imagine these attacking players ARE getting something out of it beyond the meager AP gains and actually practice feeling good about helping another human enjoy themselves, even if it is in a way that you personally cannot comprehend.

Because man, I REALLY don't get PVP. XD

Octopuss

My pro tip:
Don't even try. Five minutes long loading times just trying to travel between keeps to get to your group is beyond ridiculous.
This game will never be fixed and all the performace improvements are bunch of lies.

Nairinhe

Or pick less populated campaign and just yolo through the zone. If you die, you die, don't forget to bank Tel Vars.

SydneyGrey

Octopuss wrote: »

My pro tip:
Don't even try. Five minutes long loading times just trying to travel between keeps to get to your group is beyond ridiculous.
This game will never be fixed and all the performace improvements are bunch of lies.

I've been doing PvP in Cyrodiil all day long for the past two days on both servers, and haven't had five minute loading times. I've had some lag, but no crashes, and loading times have been fast. Maybe it's just where you are?

Nemesis7884

the loading screens going in and out of sewer r so long...best to share quests and if you dont want to do pvp just do the dailies early in the morning...no one around between 5am and 9am

Nemesis7884

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Octopuss wrote: »

My pro tip:
Don't even try. Five minutes long loading times just trying to travel between keeps to get to your group is beyond ridiculous.
This game will never be fixed and all the performace improvements are bunch of lies.

I've been doing PvP in Cyrodiil all day long for the past two days on both servers, and haven't had five minute loading times. I've had some lag, but no crashes, and loading times have been fast. Maybe it's just where you are?

hmmm i have super long loading times too that I didnt before...but once loaded i get decent fps

Kiralyn2000

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

Another tip I would personally recommend is obviously not to attack other players, and if you are attacked, to do absolutely nothing. Do not fight back, do not resist. Just face your attacker calmly, weapon sheathed, standing there letting them get whatever joy it is they gain from attacking a defenseless target offering no challenge.

I remember doing that in WoW, in those various situations where you got flagged for PvP in a PvE server (due to standing the wrong place, a quest bug, or whatever). Give them absolutely no enjoyment for a "good fight".

Problem is that the people who would take advantage of that (gankers, griefers, teabaggers, etc)? Don't care about that, they get their enjoyment from kicking your face in, even if it's beating a nonviolent protester.

maddiniiLuna

One tipp i can offer you as a PvP - Player:

Use obvious PvE Skills / Gear sets. When i realize somebody is a PvE player just doing his warhorn or achievements, i tend to leave them alone and mind their own business.


Here some examples of what i think are "obvious PvE" skills, because they usually suck in PvP.

• Warden Bear Ultimate
• Volatile Familiar
• Endless Hail
• Deadly Cloak
• Elemental Wall
• Inner Fire

Just to name a few. They are used in some PvP builds, but that's rather rare and you can pretty much tell the difference immediately. Obvious PvE sets are to me those with the green / blue balls floating around like wormcult etc. Also Briarheart as medium example. Ebon armor is quite common in PvP actually, so i wouldn't necessarily say it's a pure PvE set. Relequens another example.

Just keep in mind, that on some cruel characters it can also go the other way around, where using those sets / abilities just makes you a piece of juicy cake for gankers.

Mettaricana

Tip: if you want ap thisnworks in bgs as well watxh your foes use ricochet skull or dw throwing dagger to pic off low health targets when 2 factions or teams are going at it chances are they wont notice you from 20m away so throw or skull away.

PizzaCat82

I did 13 daily quests and 13 scouting missions on Wednesday, so I turn one in on each character then go actually PVP and get tons of AP.

The fact that there's so much of this event around PVE activities seems to be missing the point of midyear mayhem.

Raisin

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

Another tip I would personally recommend is obviously not to attack other players, and if you are attacked, to do absolutely nothing. Do not fight back, do not resist. Just face your attacker calmly, weapon sheathed, standing there letting them get whatever joy it is they gain from attacking a defenseless target offering no challenge.

I remember doing that in WoW, in those various situations where you got flagged for PvP in a PvE server (due to standing the wrong place, a quest bug, or whatever). Give them absolutely no enjoyment for a "good fight".

Problem is that the people who would take advantage of that (gankers, griefers, teabaggers, etc)? Don't care about that, they get their enjoyment from kicking your face in, even if it's beating a nonviolent protester.

Pretty much this. The only thing not fighting back has gotten me is a lot of tbagging.

VaranisArano

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

I did 13 daily quests and 13 scouting missions on Wednesday, so I turn one in on each character then go actually PVP and get tons of AP.

The fact that there's so much of this event around PVE activities seems to be missing the point of midyear mayhem.

It's fitting for PvPvE zones like Cyrodiil and IC where you can do PVE things, but the threat comes from enemy players.

I guess ZOS could change the requirements to the PVP-only quests like Battleground dailies and "Kill 20 Players", but I don't think that would go over particularly well.

markulrich1966

yes this is the method of choice for IC, used it on 2 toons this weekend so have enough quests to turn in this week, when I have less time after work.

With cyro it is similar, finish the dailies in the different towns, but don't turn them in yet, you might even take the chance to start a new toon of a second or even third alliance, so you can access every location.

For the short event-dailies, it can be very low level, especially if you already have earned champion points with your first toon, as the new ones inherit those.

Galwylin

Weird, I would have said to ignore chat

Linaleah

blood ports are amazing. (essentially if you get killed by a player or alliance guard npc in Cyrodil and pretty much anything in imperial city - you get to chose where to respawn. which means you can finish your daily, die and fast travel back to turn in without having to buy travel sigils) they will save you a lot of time. utilize stealth as much as possible. get killed on purpose for faster travel. in IC, bank Tel Var each time you get killed, before going back up - that way even if you don't make much tel var overall - you still end up in a green.

for those who killed me in the last few days, thanks for free ports and i hope you enjoyed those whole 10 tel var you got off me :P

P.S. I know that you can also cheese travel why switching between IC and Cyrodil, but IMO, it just takes too long and you might still end up getting killed in IC, while waiting for Cyro to pop and travel to complete.

Sylvermynx

Linaleah wrote: »

blood ports are amazing. (essentially if you get killed by a player or alliance guard npc in Cyrodil and pretty much anything in imperial city - you get to chose where to respawn. which means you can finish your daily, die and fast travel back to turn in without having to buy travel sigils) they will save you a lot of time. utilize stealth as much as possible. get killed on purpose for faster travel. in IC, bank Tel Var each time you get killed, before going back up - that way even if you don't make much tel var overall - you still end up in a green.

for those who killed me in the last few days, thanks for free ports and i hope you enjoyed those whole 10 tel var you got off me :P

P.S. I know that you can also cheese travel why switching between IC and Cyrodil, but IMO, it just takes too long and you might still end up getting killed in IC, while waiting for Cyro to pop and travel to complete.

While I was getting fishing done on 4 characters, when I did Cyrodiil, I just suicided to the slaughterfish....

Linaleah

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

blood ports are amazing. (essentially if you get killed by a player or alliance guard npc in Cyrodil and pretty much anything in imperial city - you get to chose where to respawn. which means you can finish your daily, die and fast travel back to turn in without having to buy travel sigils) they will save you a lot of time. utilize stealth as much as possible. get killed on purpose for faster travel. in IC, bank Tel Var each time you get killed, before going back up - that way even if you don't make much tel var overall - you still end up in a green.

for those who killed me in the last few days, thanks for free ports and i hope you enjoyed those whole 10 tel var you got off me :P

P.S. I know that you can also cheese travel why switching between IC and Cyrodil, but IMO, it just takes too long and you might still end up getting killed in IC, while waiting for Cyro to pop and travel to complete.

While I was getting fishing done on 4 characters, when I did Cyrodiil, I just suicided to the slaughterfish....

when its nearby - certainly :P most of the time, when doing scouting missions and whatnot - enemy castle or resource is just closer.

spartaxoxo

Yes, death taxis make things much easier. I would do a quest, die, bank telvar, go back up and do another quest. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The exception being the districts where you are closest to your own base like Elven Gardens for the Daggerfall Covenant.

Ufretin

I'm surprised that all these "How to avoid pvp during a pvp event" type of guides fail to mention the most obvious solution: Cloak.

You do have a magblade, don't you? Or if you don't : just make one and grind it to lvl10 within 30 minutes.
It's just tickets you guys are after, so "I want this achievement on my main" shouldn't be an issue

spartaxoxo

Ufretin wrote: »

I'm surprised that all these "How to avoid pvp during a pvp event" type of guides fail to mention the most obvious solution: Cloak.

You do have a magblade, don't you? Or if you don't : just make one and grind it to lvl10 within 30 minutes.
It's just tickets you guys are after, so "I want this achievement on my main" shouldn't be an issue

That's way more effort than just following some group around tbh.

SidraWillowsky

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

blood ports are amazing. (essentially if you get killed by a player or alliance guard npc in Cyrodil and pretty much anything in imperial city - you get to chose where to respawn. which means you can finish your daily, die and fast travel back to turn in without having to buy travel sigils) they will save you a lot of time. utilize stealth as much as possible. get killed on purpose for faster travel. in IC, bank Tel Var each time you get killed, before going back up - that way even if you don't make much tel var overall - you still end up in a green.

for those who killed me in the last few days, thanks for free ports and i hope you enjoyed those whole 10 tel var you got off me :P

P.S. I know that you can also cheese travel why switching between IC and Cyrodil, but IMO, it just takes too long and you might still end up getting killed in IC, while waiting for Cyro to pop and travel to complete.

While I was getting fishing done on 4 characters, when I did Cyrodiil, I just suicided to the slaughterfish....

when its nearby - certainly :P most of the time, when doing scouting missions and whatnot - enemy castle or resource is just closer.

Just craft Ravage Health potions... I don't remember the ingredients but you can make the strong enough to suicide with.

Ingenon

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Just craft Ravage Health potions... I don't remember the ingredients but you can make the strong enough to suicide with.

Why do this during Midyear Mayhem? With the extra campaigns that have been opened up, I'm spending about one minute in sneak waiting for the prompt to go to Imperial City (from Cyrodiil). And it puts me inside my faction base in Imperial City, where I can walk to the exit door in seconds. Two load screens, and I am back in Tamriel.

Jaraal

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

blood ports are amazing. (essentially if you get killed by a player or alliance guard npc in Cyrodil and pretty much anything in imperial city - you get to chose where to respawn. which means you can finish your daily, die and fast travel back to turn in without having to buy travel sigils) they will save you a lot of time. utilize stealth as much as possible. get killed on purpose for faster travel. in IC, bank Tel Var each time you get killed, before going back up - that way even if you don't make much tel var overall - you still end up in a green.

for those who killed me in the last few days, thanks for free ports and i hope you enjoyed those whole 10 tel var you got off me :P

P.S. I know that you can also cheese travel why switching between IC and Cyrodil, but IMO, it just takes too long and you might still end up getting killed in IC, while waiting for Cyro to pop and travel to complete.

While I was getting fishing done on 4 characters, when I did Cyrodiil, I just suicided to the slaughterfish....

when its nearby - certainly :P most of the time, when doing scouting missions and whatnot - enemy castle or resource is just closer.

I tried to do this yesterday while doing chests for the antiquities leads. Ended up far from home, but noticed that a remote friendly outpost that had been cut off from the rest was under attack, so I headed over. There were about six enemies with sieges working without resistance on the door, so I charged them spin-to-winning in my all Divines Fiord's and Darloc Brae gear, ready to death recap out of Dodge. But, no. I ended up killing them all somehow. So I just logged out at that point and started playing another character.

Linaleah

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

blood ports are amazing. (essentially if you get killed by a player or alliance guard npc in Cyrodil and pretty much anything in imperial city - you get to chose where to respawn. which means you can finish your daily, die and fast travel back to turn in without having to buy travel sigils) they will save you a lot of time. utilize stealth as much as possible. get killed on purpose for faster travel. in IC, bank Tel Var each time you get killed, before going back up - that way even if you don't make much tel var overall - you still end up in a green.

for those who killed me in the last few days, thanks for free ports and i hope you enjoyed those whole 10 tel var you got off me :P

P.S. I know that you can also cheese travel why switching between IC and Cyrodil, but IMO, it just takes too long and you might still end up getting killed in IC, while waiting for Cyro to pop and travel to complete.

While I was getting fishing done on 4 characters, when I did Cyrodiil, I just suicided to the slaughterfish....

when its nearby - certainly :P most of the time, when doing scouting missions and whatnot - enemy castle or resource is just closer.

Just craft Ravage Health potions... I don't remember the ingredients but you can make the strong enough to suicide with.

eh. waste my precious precious mats? nyah :P

Jaraal wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

blood ports are amazing. (essentially if you get killed by a player or alliance guard npc in Cyrodil and pretty much anything in imperial city - you get to chose where to respawn. which means you can finish your daily, die and fast travel back to turn in without having to buy travel sigils) they will save you a lot of time. utilize stealth as much as possible. get killed on purpose for faster travel. in IC, bank Tel Var each time you get killed, before going back up - that way even if you don't make much tel var overall - you still end up in a green.

for those who killed me in the last few days, thanks for free ports and i hope you enjoyed those whole 10 tel var you got off me :P

P.S. I know that you can also cheese travel why switching between IC and Cyrodil, but IMO, it just takes too long and you might still end up getting killed in IC, while waiting for Cyro to pop and travel to complete.

While I was getting fishing done on 4 characters, when I did Cyrodiil, I just suicided to the slaughterfish....

when its nearby - certainly :P most of the time, when doing scouting missions and whatnot - enemy castle or resource is just closer.

I tried to do this yesterday while doing chests for the antiquities leads. Ended up far from home, but noticed that a remote friendly outpost that had been cut off from the rest was under attack, so I headed over. There were about six enemies with sieges working without resistance on the door, so I charged them spin-to-winning in my all Divines Fiord's and Darloc Brae gear, ready to death recap out of Dodge. But, no. I ended up killing them all somehow. So I just logged out at that point and started playing another character.

lol. well.. i don't attack in any way, i just stand there and die :P