Is this new Winter’s Respite Set from Western Skyrim worth keeping?

HappyTheCamper

Like the title asks, just wondering what other people think. Thanks!

Stx

It's an amazing set currently, so I would hold onto any good pieces you get with desired traits. I dont think it will ever really be hard to find though.

AcadianPaladin

My Templar healer is currently running Winter's Respite and finds it quite fun. LIke any set it is a matter of choosing what set to give up to wear it, then adjusting things to compensate for the changes. In my case, I dropped Seducer for Winter's Respite, then adjusted my monster pieces to boost mag regen (which Seducer did) instead of boosting heals (which Winter's Respite does). Illustrious Healing on steroids, Shards with Healz!

Here's another thread on Winter's Respite you may find interesting: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6826457#Comment_6826457

Veinblood1965

I want an awesome for this reply!

I don't know if it is or not, there's so many of them I've just been deconning most of it.

Kittytravel

I've been using it as an alternative to pump out a bit of extra DPS on my healer in dungeons where everyones usually together; just removed regen off my healer bar to sub it out with another DoT spell since Grand Healing will proc the set and provide whatever Regen would have.

Overall I think it has it's niche benefits like any other healer set.

idk

What Kitty said. It might be fine for a healer. However, it would not be a meta set for a healer. Still can be a fun set.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

I want an awesome for this reply!

I don't know if it is or not, there's so many of them I've just been deconning most of it.

Is this what the forums have come to at this point? Directly asking for awesomes while giving no useful information whatsoever. The post wasnt clever, no awesome, you said nothing to agree with, and you certainly didnt provide any insight.

I dont ever see this set being all that meta, but I do see it's use. I think where it will find its use is on Hybrid DPS/Healer types in 4 man content. It basically allows your blockade (you are likely running lighting blockade for off balance as a healer) to also act as a HOT. If you keep up blockade on its 10 second cooldown, anyone in the stack is also going to get a nice little healer.

What you have to ask yourself is whether a 5 piece gear set is worth what could be accomplished by one extra skill. I will generally say that because most healers overheal to begin with (and most under buff), you could do better than this for a 5 piece buffs. Buffs are generally preferable to a heal from gear IMO, at least most of the time..

I will take 3 insightfuls and an awesome. That's how this works, right?

Veinblood1965

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

I want an awesome for this reply!

I don't know if it is or not, there's so many of them I've just been deconning most of it.

Is this what the forums have come to at this point? Directly asking for awesomes while giving no useful information whatsoever. The post wasnt clever, no awesome, you said nothing to agree with, and you certainly didnt provide any insight.

I dont ever see this set being all that meta, but I do see it's use. I think where it will find its use is on Hybrid DPS/Healer types in 4 man content. It basically allows your blockade (you are likely running lighting blockade for off balance as a healer) to also act as a HOT. If you keep up blockade on its 10 second cooldown, anyone in the stack is also going to get a nice little healer.

What you have to ask yourself is whether a 5 piece gear set is worth what could be accomplished by one extra skill. I will generally say that because most healers overheal to begin with (and most under buff), you could do better than this for a 5 piece buffs. Buffs are generally preferable to a heal from gear IMO, at least most of the time..

I will take 3 insightfuls and an awesome. That's how this works, right?

I gave you an agree, my post wasn't helpful. I meant, it just didn't look like a top tier set and there's so many items in circulation I just decon it. Basically unless you are a healer and under certain circumstances.

AWinterWolf

My templar runs Winter's, it's especially good (in my opinion) for group healing vSS.

tsaescishoeshiner

AWinterWolf wrote: »

My templar runs Winter's, it's especially good (in my opinion) for group healing vSS.

Yeah, healers have used it in vKA, as well.

As far as "is it worth keeping," I would only consider its actual gold cost. Divines pieces are worth just a few hundred gold, so you can just delete/sell/decon and buy them later if you want.
Infused Lightning or Resto Staves might be worth something, but, if not, anything you can easily buy from a trader for a few hundred gold probably isn't worth hoarding.

Stx

A lot of players here are only talking about this sets value to a healer in endgame pve. That is really selling the set short. What makes this a great set is the raw healing it puts out and how easy it is to one bar it and apply the healing.

This set far surpasses other direct heal sets including battalion defender, almalexias mercy, and draughts rest.

This set is fantastic for pvp, solo builds, and it's probably worth a backbar slot in any pve group since you only need one player with it to apply healing to your whole party.

This set is nuts.

Hanokihs

Stx wrote: »

A lot of players here are only talking about this sets value to a healer in endgame pve. That is really selling the set short. What makes this a great set is the raw healing it puts out and how easy it is to one bar it and apply the healing.

This set far surpasses other direct heal sets including battalion defender, almalexias mercy, and draughts rest.

This set is fantastic for pvp, solo builds, and it's probably worth a backbar slot in any pve group since you only need one player with it to apply healing to your whole party.

This set is nuts.

What you had meant to say was that it's awful for everything and nobody should ever use it so it doesn't get nerfed.

volkeswagon

Was gonna use it on my healer

Hotdog_23

Going to keep a set for PVE and PVP. Not sure I will ever use it but nice to have on hand in case I want to run it. Sure, there is a lot of it out now but over time as people move on to other content there will be a lot less of it. Get a few sets now if you have the room to hold on to it

DaveMoeDee

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

I want an awesome for this reply!

I don't know if it is or not, there's so many of them I've just been deconning most of it.

Is this what the forums have come to at this point? Directly asking for awesomes while giving no useful information whatsoever. The post wasnt clever, no awesome, you said nothing to agree with, and you certainly didnt provide any insight.

I dont ever see this set being all that meta, but I do see it's use. I think where it will find its use is on Hybrid DPS/Healer types in 4 man content. It basically allows your blockade (you are likely running lighting blockade for off balance as a healer) to also act as a HOT. If you keep up blockade on its 10 second cooldown, anyone in the stack is also going to get a nice little healer.

What you have to ask yourself is whether a 5 piece gear set is worth what could be accomplished by one extra skill. I will generally say that because most healers overheal to begin with (and most under buff), you could do better than this for a 5 piece buffs. Buffs are generally preferable to a heal from gear IMO, at least most of the time..

I will take 3 insightfuls and an awesome. That's how this works, right?

I couldn't make sense of their post. I assumed they were saying the reply above deserved an awesome.

I guess I couldn't imagine someone asking for 'awesome' votes.

Cireous

I play support roles with all 6 classes, two of which are frost-centric, so Winter's Respite is quite the dream set for me.

ccfeeling

It's a good tank weapon set .
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Vaoh

Yes, it is worth keeping. It’s a very strong set.

I’ve seen Hiti’s Hearth used in vCR HM runs.... to provide a comparison, this set has a tooltip of over double the healing per tick, and slightly better uptime. It’s the most powerful set for providing heals hands down. The AoE is as large as a Healing Springs too.

Currently the meta is a Warden main healer in Olo+Hollowfang (or Gossamer), and a NB off healer in RO+Jorvuld’s. So while this set isn’t exactly the most “meta” at least in endgame PvE, I would use it anytime over Hiti’s Hearth.

Paramedicus

nice non meta tank set. tho u will need to slot aoe spells to trigger effect (altar, elemental blockade, time stop etc.).

bit annoying downside is that it gives 2x 1k max magicka so you will need to work around this to end up with higher stam pool. another one is that you will have to spend 150 crystals to transmute jewelry.

phileunderx2

Yes it is a good set. I'm currently using it on my necro healer... I think it is very nice for classes that don't have a good aoe class healing skill. Thus why I use it on my necro. As it procs very nicely with boneyard. Wall of elements and so on. The o ly skill that doesn't proc is combat prayer which seems strange as it is a ground aoe skill.

Dagoth_Rac

phileunderx2 wrote: »

Yes it is a good set. I'm currently using it on my necro healer... I think it is very nice for classes that don't have a good aoe class healing skill. Thus why I use it on my necro. As it procs very nicely with boneyard. Wall of elements and so on. The o ly skill that doesn't proc is combat prayer which seems strange as it is a ground aoe skill.

Combat Prayer is AoE, but instant. It does not leave an effect on the ground, which Winter's Respite requires.

BXR_Lonestar

I haven't used the set, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but it seems like heals are plenty strong already (at least for my character), and thus, this really doesn't add any additional benefit in the more difficult content, other than allowing you to potentially free up an additional slot. I'm not sure that is worth the cost of a 5 piece set (similar analysis applied to whether Rattlecage is a good set).

That said, its not useless. I think it could potentially be used as a carry set in Maelstrom. Rather than equipping radiating regen and extended ritual, you could basically use a combo of radiating regen and shards for your heals (shards would proc Winter's Respite), which means that is one less skill you need to cast during stressful encounters.

It could be good for niche offtank builds as well.

Overall, I see it kind of like Draug'rs rest set - probably very good for people learning to be healers and who want to add some additional healing, but for healers who are already playing at a high level, using this set means giving up a set that allows you to give buffs to your teammates or debuffs to the enemy.