Performance has gotten worse.

zDan

So cyrodiil is still unplayable due to lag and skill delay, a lot of stuttering and random load screens in the middle of nowhere? I popped into a zero bars IC and still lagged to death. Wasn't this supposed to be a performance patch? How can you go so backwards?

EtTuBrutus

+1

React

The second long awaited performance patch, on par with the first one for the worst performance we've seen in the history of the game. It's actually incredible that they've had these performance "improvements" scheduled for over a year and they've still managed to worsen the performance overall. One year ago the performance was bad, but you could still play reasonably well during off hours with low population. Now it is unplayable with just one bar on each alliance in the main camp.

I don't think we'll ever see genuine improvements at this point.

rluke

+1

Atherakhia

They are just pushing people into the waiting arms of their competition the longer this goes unaddressed. ESOs only real advantage it had was an underwhelming (that's an understatement) expansion in another popular MMO and no other real competition to speak of. With their own underwhelming and uninspired expansion now released and most people already finished all content it provided, and still left with horrible performance and no attempt to balance their game whatsoever. I really am wondering what, if anything, they'll do to convince people to hang around with very real competition right around the corner.

Right now their strategy appears to be to simply hope those other MMOs can't deliver on the promises they're offering and players will have no real option other than to suffer through these issues for the next 6+ months/year(s) while they continue to support nothing but their cash shop. Seems like a silly strategy, but I've seen nothing in the past 8months to convince me they have any other plan moving forward.

SodanTok

Atherakhia wrote: »

They are just pushing people into the waiting arms of their competition the longer this goes unaddressed. ESOs only real advantage it had was an underwhelming (that's an understatement) expansion in another popular MMO and no other real competition to speak of. With their own underwhelming and uninspired expansion now released and most people already finished all content it provided, and still left with horrible performance and no attempt to balance their game whatsoever. I really am wondering what, if anything, they'll do to convince people to hang around with very real competition right around the corner.

Right now their strategy appears to be to simply hope those other MMOs can't deliver on the promises they're offering and players will have no real option other than to suffer through these issues for the next 6+ months/year(s) while they continue to support nothing but their cash shop. Seems like a silly strategy, but I've seen nothing in the past 8months to convince me they have any other plan moving forward.

Eh, people been saying that since 2014. The strategy for past 4 years is to focus on their core community and appease the complaining minority with promises and minor adjustments. If you wanna window into mind and opinions of ppl ZoS actually focuses on you need to go on reddit and even that one is niche.
Even if they suddenly made ESO PVP work flawlessly this chapter it would generate less praise and excitement than Cat Banker and Merchant did.

Maxdevil

Lol

Gilvoth

please fix this zeninmax

mav1234

On PC NA, No CP Cyrodill is completely playable as long as no faction is above 2 bars. If any 1 faction is 3 bar, and they have a huge group at one place, the entire server goes to ***. However, playable does not mean without input delay, bugs, or desyncs. These issues are persistent regardless of population, and seem separate from the number of players around, unlike other types of 'lag.'

Atherakhia

SodanTok wrote: »

Atherakhia wrote: »

They are just pushing people into the waiting arms of their competition the longer this goes unaddressed. ESOs only real advantage it had was an underwhelming (that's an understatement) expansion in another popular MMO and no other real competition to speak of. With their own underwhelming and uninspired expansion now released and most people already finished all content it provided, and still left with horrible performance and no attempt to balance their game whatsoever. I really am wondering what, if anything, they'll do to convince people to hang around with very real competition right around the corner.

Right now their strategy appears to be to simply hope those other MMOs can't deliver on the promises they're offering and players will have no real option other than to suffer through these issues for the next 6+ months/year(s) while they continue to support nothing but their cash shop. Seems like a silly strategy, but I've seen nothing in the past 8months to convince me they have any other plan moving forward.

Eh, people been saying that since 2014. The strategy for past 4 years is to focus on their core community and appease the complaining minority with promises and minor adjustments. If you wanna window into mind and opinions of ppl ZoS actually focuses on you need to go on reddit and even that one is niche.
Even if they suddenly made ESO PVP work flawlessly this chapter it would generate less praise and excitement than Cat Banker and Merchant did.

I'd agree with this. But in the past they didn't have any real competition. The MMO scene has been barren for years now. A handful are right around the corner now so I'd be curious if players are foolish enough to continue believing in the empty promises. Especially in the PvP community where the first mainstream PvP game since what, Shadowbane? is coming out?

Mayrael

TBH after what they did during their first attempt of fixing performance this year, I'm afraid to ask for next "improvements".

There is though one thing that would help a lot I think and would force people to spread out. Friendly fire. No more dumb stacking of heals (yes you could heal enemy with AoE heals but only the real AoEs not the smart targeted ones), AoE etc. etc. We would have to pay attention what and when to cast. To make AoEs more appealing bring their strength and cost on pair with single target abilities.

I know it would be very controversial but I believe it would help a lot.

Aquatorch

The game has gotten so much worse lag wise... Is the Google Stadia release going to manage servers as well or just clients? If Google Stadia manages ESO servers, they might save the game.

Ariades_swe

My skill delay is gone on ps4 at least.

Rahar

SodanTok wrote: »

Atherakhia wrote: »

They are just pushing people into the waiting arms of their competition the longer this goes unaddressed. ESOs only real advantage it had was an underwhelming (that's an understatement) expansion in another popular MMO and no other real competition to speak of. With their own underwhelming and uninspired expansion now released and most people already finished all content it provided, and still left with horrible performance and no attempt to balance their game whatsoever. I really am wondering what, if anything, they'll do to convince people to hang around with very real competition right around the corner.

Right now their strategy appears to be to simply hope those other MMOs can't deliver on the promises they're offering and players will have no real option other than to suffer through these issues for the next 6+ months/year(s) while they continue to support nothing but their cash shop. Seems like a silly strategy, but I've seen nothing in the past 8months to convince me they have any other plan moving forward.

Eh, people been saying that since 2014. The strategy for past 4 years is to focus on their core community and appease the complaining minority with promises and minor adjustments. If you wanna window into mind and opinions of ppl ZoS actually focuses on you need to go on reddit and even that one is niche.
Even if they suddenly made ESO PVP work flawlessly this chapter it would generate less praise and excitement than Cat Banker and Merchant did.

The doctor is in, and he has your bitter, bitter medicine right here. Say 'ahhh'.

SodanTok

Rahar wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

Atherakhia wrote: »

They are just pushing people into the waiting arms of their competition the longer this goes unaddressed. ESOs only real advantage it had was an underwhelming (that's an understatement) expansion in another popular MMO and no other real competition to speak of. With their own underwhelming and uninspired expansion now released and most people already finished all content it provided, and still left with horrible performance and no attempt to balance their game whatsoever. I really am wondering what, if anything, they'll do to convince people to hang around with very real competition right around the corner.

Right now their strategy appears to be to simply hope those other MMOs can't deliver on the promises they're offering and players will have no real option other than to suffer through these issues for the next 6+ months/year(s) while they continue to support nothing but their cash shop. Seems like a silly strategy, but I've seen nothing in the past 8months to convince me they have any other plan moving forward.

Eh, people been saying that since 2014. The strategy for past 4 years is to focus on their core community and appease the complaining minority with promises and minor adjustments. If you wanna window into mind and opinions of ppl ZoS actually focuses on you need to go on reddit and even that one is niche.
Even if they suddenly made ESO PVP work flawlessly this chapter it would generate less praise and excitement than Cat Banker and Merchant did.

The doctor is in, and he has your bitter, bitter medicine right here. Say 'ahhh'.

Thanks Should make me going until next patch at least