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Greetings antiquity system. Hellllloooo INFLATION!
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭not really. purple treasures are one timeonly. PER ACCOUNT. as is the 100k treasure. and takes long enough to scry for treasures that you might be better off looting cupboards and stealing. something you can do on multiple characters, since fence limit is per character, not per account.
if fencing didn't kill the economy, neither will antiquities.dirty worthless casual.
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dcam86b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not really since most of what you find isn't tradebale.
If you want to talk inflation look at the blood coagulant from harrowstorms.3 -
ImmortalCX✭✭✭✭✭My guess is that many farmers are hunting antiquities, so there is a shortage of other things on the market.0 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭There's iirc (according to ZOS' own words) ~300k gold to be had off all the Antiquities (I'm assuming that means the treasures you sell to vendor for gold, not stuff like selling motifs you find to players etc), but do keep in mind that is a once-an-account thing only, at least with the freebie green-blue-purple leads.
If you try to count... there're 15+1(Coldharbour)+5(starter)=21 vanilla zones, then Craglorn, then there's, if I counted that off the top of my head correctly, 9 dlc zones+Western Skyrim+Artaeum, then I think Eyevea has leads too. Cyrodiil has no dig sites so doesn't count. That makes for 34 zones total, I might have missed a couple but that should be close enough. In each zone by default you can do infinite number of Green leads, 3 Blue ones and 1 Purple. Since you need to do 3 Greens (at least) to get 3 Blues, plus 3 is the Codex number, let's go off 3 Green+3 Blue+1 Purple. That's 3*250+3*1000+1*5000=8750. 8750*34=297,500 , seems close enough to the 300k estimate.
Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure.
Now those ~300k gold...sure, it's 300k gold. But it's 300k gold you can only get once per ACCOUNT, and it will take you quite a bit of time and legwork. Furthermore, everything else you find from antiquities, such as gear and furniture, is BoP, with the exception of motifs (which aren't that different from farming motifs of any other kind) and Indeko rune(which costs <10k on PC already). It's a nice easy way to net up some gold to for a new-ish player who doesn't have access to motifs or gear he could sell for $$$, but it's nothng mind-blowingly amazing that'd make the system collapse.
Iirc there's also some magic treasure you can sell to vendor for 100k gold, but that's definitely not part of any freebie lead and I bet that wherever it drops from, it has a fairly low rate there. I doubt that farming for it (that if you can even get it more than once) would prove much more useful than farming for any other gold source in the game such as motifs or simply mats.
IMO they actually did a very good job thinking this one through - sure, it will net you some gold which is nice, but there's no farming it once you finish it. No 9 toon farming, no make new char-farm-delete new toon-rinse and repeat farming.
Edit: It seems the 100k item is a once-per-account thing as well but not an rng drop but kind of a guaranteed lead from a certain place in Skyrim IF you have done all the freebie leads in all zones (or so someone said, at least). Okay, so you get ~400k gold total if you do that. But that's it.Edited by Magdalina on June 13, 2020 6:18AM11 -
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✭@TheValkyn actually not true. Sure you get the ultimate lead for 100k once and the purple leads once also. Other than that, you will not be able to get those again. In comparison to other gold farming methods, the antiquity system is not as lucrative if you already know other efficient way to farm when comparing time.3 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well like the others said, it's only once per account.
And even when they gave out 100k as login reward (it was like 2 times iirc), I don't think it caused any noticeable inflation. Even though everyone could grab it, not just the people who bought the chapter and I know some who grabbed it on multiple accounts.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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redgreensunset✭✭✭✭✭
✭There's iirc (according to ZOS' own words) ~300k gold to be had off all the Antiquities (I'm assuming that means the treasures you sell to vendor for gold, not stuff like selling motifs you find to players etc), but do keep in mind that is a once-an-account thing only, at least with the freebie green-blue-purple leads.
If you try to count... there're 15+1(Coldharbour)+5(starter)=21 vanilla zones, then Craglorn, then there's, if I counted that off the top of my head correctly, 9 dlc zones+Western Skyrim+Artaeum, then I think Eyevea has leads too. Cyrodiil has no dig sites so doesn't count. That makes for 34 zones total, I might have missed a couple but that should be close enough. In each zone by default you can do infinite number of Green leads, 3 Blue ones and 1 Purple. Since you need to do 3 Greens (at least) to get 3 Blues, plus 3 is the Codex number, let's go off 3 Green+3 Blue+1 Purple. That's 3*250+3*1000+1*5000=8750. 8750*34=297,500 , seems close enough to the 300k estimate.
Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure.
Now those ~300k gold...sure, it's 300k gold. But it's 300k gold you can only get once per ACCOUNT, and it will take you quite a bit of time and legwork. Furthermore, everything else you find from antiquities, such as gear and furniture, is BoP, with the exception of motifs (which aren't that different from farming motifs of any other kind) and Indeko rune(which costs <10k on PC already). It's a nice easy way to net up some gold to for a new-ish player who doesn't have access to motifs or gear he could sell for $$$, but it's nothng mind-blowingly amazing that'd make the system collapse.
Iirc there's also some magic treasure you can sell to vendor for 100k gold, but that's definitely not part of any freebie lead and I bet that wherever it drops from, it has a fairly low rate there. I doubt that farming for it (that if you can even get it more than once) would prove much more useful than farming for any other gold source in the game such as motifs or simply mats.
IMO they actually did a very good job thinking this one through - sure, it will net you some gold which is nice, but there's no farming it once you finish it. No 9 toon farming, no make new char-farm-delete new toon-rinse and repeat farming.
Edit: It seems the 100k item is a once-per-account thing as well but not an rng drop but kind of a guaranteed lead from a certain place in Skyrim IF you have done all the freebie leads in all zones (or so someone said, at least). Okay, so you get ~400k gold total if you do that. But that's it.
Assuming your math holds then I, or anyone, could earn more by simply picking pockets. Evenassuming you get only white drops (40 gold) that would be ~6 picks to cover, which would take you what 2 minutes literally in any hub? And you might get lucky and get higher treasure and if you pick pockets in say Morrowind there's also a decent chance of a motif that sells quite well. So yeah, this hardly qualifies as more economy breaking than anything already in the game.3 -
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?0 -
FakeFox✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The antiquity system is for sure more accessible than most viable gold farm methods, so I guess it will be a quite substantial one time gold boost for newer players. But that is basically it. As a long term farming method it's pretty ineffective and insignificant though. Even if you dig something up every minute that''s maybe 20k per hour, once you are out of purple leads.Edited by FakeFox on June 13, 2020 9:14AMEU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)4 -
Bucky_13✭✭✭✭✭
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Even if you get green+ blue in 5 mins, the gold you make per hour is tiny (15k) once you run out of purple leads. There's so many more efficient ways of farming gold than this. For example, doing daily writs on 10 chars with add-ons takes less than an hour and is well over 40k in gold during that hour, not even taking into account the mats you get which yields even more gold.
In short: The antiques does not reward too much gold.Edited by Bucky_13 on June 13, 2020 10:22AM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Every time a new house is released for gold, the economy is deflating. We just got another 1M gold house.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.7 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Don't worry about this. There are ways to gather gold faster than digging. lol"Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
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Gundug✭✭✭✭✭Considering I can have 18 characters per account spend two minutes each solving daily writs for 5k gold, totaling 90k daily, or 630k weekly, antiquities will have to do a lot better than it does now to approach that. If you could sell mythic items, or the more fantastical furnishings, or valuable leads, maybe.3
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Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.5 -
Josira✭✭✭✭.
Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Yes actually he is
He decided to use the most vampiric skill ever and the resulting suicide rendered me mountless. Unless you count the stick horse I have."BlooD FReNZy TicKS aLL thE BoXes of WhaT iT mEanS tO bE a VaMpiRe"3 -
TheValkyn✭✭✭✭✭
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.0 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.
Care to provide me a vid in which scrying+excavating a green+blue takes you significantly shorter than that?2 -
santhoranb16_ESO✭✭✭.
Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.
Care to provide me a vid in which scrying+excavating a green+blue takes you significantly shorter than that?
Even if he could proof a 4min run for riding, scry and exca a green AND blue - it would be just a 22500g/hour, thats ...if you are just half-way good farming other mats , or just mobs for gold and sell everything, you can reach that sum per hour. And there are lot better places&ways.
It never has a meaningful impact on the economy.Edited by santhoranb16_ESO on June 13, 2020 4:30PM0 -
majulook✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wish the housing Items were trade/sellable or at least the non-gold ones.Si vis pacem, para bellum1 -
NinchiTV✭✭✭✭✭I think a lot of people stop at level 7 or slow down at least. And I got around 100k free gold after grinding to 7.0 -
TheValkyn✭✭✭✭✭
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.
Care to provide me a vid in which scrying+excavating a green+blue takes you significantly shorter than that?
Are you on xbox? Just timed it.
1:26 scry, excavate and cross zone travel of a blue. I even made a few mistakes.
This reminds me of slicing in SWTOR a while back. We all knew it was too much and the only people being vocal against the returns were slicers.
Also, remember that a lot of times in Arteum it will spawn the next antiquity right next to you. Even at the same node you’re at.
It could even be that Arteum should be the choke point here. Good discussion.Edited by TheValkyn on June 13, 2020 4:40PM0 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭santhoranb16_ESO wrote: ».
Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.
Care to provide me a vid in which scrying+excavating a green+blue takes you significantly shorter than that?
Even if he could proof a 4min run for riding, scry and exca a green AND blue - it would be just a 22500g/hour, thats ...if you are just half-way good farming other mats , or just mobs for gold and sell everything, you can reach that sum per hour. And there are lot better places&ways.
It never has a meaningful impact on the economy.
Well I suppose if you completely ignore bonus items (which might include Indeko and THAT, before its price drops at least, is one thing that can provide some gold there if you're lucky) and just click away your time asap after finding the main item, you may fit into maybe 3 minutes. No bonus loot=>1,250*20=25,000, still not overly impressed.
To get anything close to 'far too much gold' you'd have to consistently do it in, like, 30-40 seconds or something and I'd definitely like to see that
Edit: Quotes got confused somehow, fixed that.
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santhoranb16_ESO✭✭✭I'd even say making the purple ones one-per-character instead of once per account would not hurt the economy. If you do the math its still no way a great gold farm.
You'd need about at last 8 minutes to farm green+blue+purple per zone. Some zones are really big and ..you might need even more time for some purples.
But lets say you manage a average of 8minutes for zone loading, searching and excavating a green blue AND purple. Would net you, lets say generous 7000g per run(5000 purple lead+green+blue+extra finds). You get 7.5 per hour, so 7000 x 7.5 = 52500 gold/hour.
Thats nothing what i call high - and once you take account into that you first need to level on each character the antiquities skill lines up to 5 (and have spare skill points) if you count that amount of time too it would drastically lower the gold/hour outlook again. Not alone if one comes the idea to delete, make new to farm purple leads again -> time to level up for the skill points, then level antiquities skill lines,then get access to travel to ALL ZONES AND WAYSHRINES to farm all purples out again... see that would never ever make it a good steady gold farm method, if all goes well that method maybe would lead to 30k gold/hour. It just could never hurt the economy.0 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.
Care to provide me a vid in which scrying+excavating a green+blue takes you significantly shorter than that?
Are you on xbox? Just timed it.
1:26 scry, excavate and cross zone travel of a blue. I even made a few mistakes.
This reminds me of slicing in SWTOR a while back. We all knew it was too much and the only people being vocal against the returns were slicers.
Also, remember that a lot of times in Arteum it will spawn the next antiquity right next to you. Even at the same node you’re at.
It could even be that Arteum should be the choke point here. Good discussion.
I'm on PC. I suppose this makes a video slightly more difficult. You scried for a green, excavated a green, then scried for a blue and excavated a blue all within 1:26?0 -
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.
Care to provide me a vid in which scrying+excavating a green+blue takes you significantly shorter than that?
Are you on xbox? Just timed it.
1:26 scry, excavate and cross zone travel of a blue. I even made a few mistakes.
This reminds me of slicing in SWTOR a while back. We all knew it was too much and the only people being vocal against the returns were slicers.
Also, remember that a lot of times in Arteum it will spawn the next antiquity right next to you. Even at the same node you’re at.
It could even be that Arteum should be the choke point here. Good discussion.
I'm on PC. I suppose this makes a video slightly more difficult. You scried for a green, excavated a green, then scried for a blue and excavated a blue all within 1:26?
That’s a blue scry, excavate in 1:26 WITH cross zone travel. That would be the high extreme. The times could even be shorter. I made a few mistakes while traveling etc. I kinda mentioned that above though.
I think the issue here really is Arteum. Maybe not the system as a whole. It’s not uncommon to be scry and have the location be next to you or even at the exact location.Edited by TheValkyn on June 13, 2020 4:51PM0 -
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Now of course you can keep doing the freebie green leads, but that means you first scry it, then port/ride over to where it is, find the dig site, dig...not hard or overly time consuming by any measure, but that's 250 gold for, Idk, 5 mins' worth of time? I could probably get as much quicker just by pulling big trash groups or opening a few chests (especially given those would also net me some gear/stuff I could vendor, if nothing else). Not mind blowing by any measure..
It takes you five minutes to ride from one side of Arteum to the other? Is your horse dead?
Just to sate your worries, I just went to Artaeum with my maxed out scrying, excavation and, yes, maxed out horse. I actually used the timer on my cellphone and over the course of 5 minutes 8 seconds, while succeeding in both excavation and scrying on first try with minimum time waste possible (as in, I didn't sit there staring at my screen waiting for the timer to tick, this is honest time it took me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty good at scrying/excavating at this point), I was able to scry for both green and blue lead, which is slightly better than I expected but still not mind-blowing. Here is the amazing loot I got, which, as you can see, amounts to all of 1,453 gold if I vendor all of it (that's with even uncovering some bonus items, mind you). Assuming you succeed at scrying and excavation every time and get a couple mildly useless bonus loot every time, let's round it up to 1,500, which lands us at a whopping 1,500*12=18,000 gold an hour if ALL you do this hour is scrying and excavating in Artaeum. Which tbh sounds rather nauseating but I suppose to each their own.
So...best you can hope for stably is ~18k gold an hour. Wow. This is bound to break the system, you're right. Clearly this is the absolutely highest time-gold ratio you could get from anything in the game.
You’re scrying/excavating wrong if a blue and green takes you five minutes.
Care to provide me a vid in which scrying+excavating a green+blue takes you significantly shorter than that?
Are you on xbox? Just timed it.
1:26 scry, excavate and cross zone travel of a blue. I even made a few mistakes.
This reminds me of slicing in SWTOR a while back. We all knew it was too much and the only people being vocal against the returns were slicers.
Also, remember that a lot of times in Arteum it will spawn the next antiquity right next to you. Even at the same node you’re at.
It could even be that Arteum should be the choke point here. Good discussion.
I'm on PC. I suppose this makes a video slightly more difficult. You scried for a green, excavated a green, then scried for a blue and excavated a blue all within 1:26?
That’s a blue scry, excavate in 1:26 WITH cross zone travel. I kinda mentioned that above.
I think the issue here really is Arteum. Maybe not the system as a whole. It’s not uncommon to be scry and have the location be next to you or even at the exact location.
Yeah but you can't just infinitely scry for blue over and over again, you need a lead. To get which you first have to scry and dig up a green lead. At which point 1:26 does seem quite a bit far fetched (unless it does spawn on exact same location I guess. Which I know is possible but I haven't had that happen much. Now admittedly I haven't grinded Artaeum either).0
