RIch stated they are new weapons and as such we will have to grind to get them as we would with any other new gear item added to the game.
RIch stated they are new weapons and as such we will have to grind to get them as we would with any other new gear item added to the game.
I took a long hiatus from the game because I was burnt out and decided to come back and try this update but ZoS still hasn't made many of the changes people have been asking for for years. Seems like a waste of time and 40 bucks I guess. The content is kind of cool but ZoS is too concerned with endless rebalancing and grinding to be concerned with real QoL updates.
RIch stated they are new weapons and as such we will have to grind to get them as we would with any other new gear item added to the game.
But its not new content. Not making them perfected and giving the same exact weapon so many had to put countless hours into to get into normal mode is insulting.
RIch stated they are new weapons and as such we will have to grind to get them as we would with any other new gear item added to the game.
But its not new content. Not making them perfected and giving the same exact weapon so many had to put countless hours into to get into normal mode is insulting.
Are you suggesting you would have prefer Zos add a vMA HM that is more challenging than just plain old vMA for us to grind the new weapons in? That would be new content.
RIch stated they are new weapons and as such we will have to grind to get them as we would with any other new gear item added to the game.
But its not new content. Not making them perfected and giving the same exact weapon so many had to put countless hours into to get into normal mode is insulting.
Are you suggesting you would have prefer Zos add a vMA HM that is more challenging than just plain old vMA for us to grind the new weapons in? That would be new content.
That would be better than giving the weapon on normal.
RIch stated they are new weapons and as such we will have to grind to get them as we would with any other new gear item added to the game.
But its not new content. Not making them perfected and giving the same exact weapon so many had to put countless hours into to get into normal mode is insulting.
Are you suggesting you would have prefer Zos add a vMA HM that is more challenging than just plain old vMA for us to grind the new weapons in? That would be new content.
That would be better than giving the weapon on normal.
Oh, so you are not upset that the new weapon was added as a reward for vMA but that the older weapon is a available on normal. Well, it is what it is and I am pretty confident Zos will not be reverting that ever.
RIch stated they are new weapons and as such we will have to grind to get them as we would with any other new gear item added to the game.
But its not new content. Not making them perfected and giving the same exact weapon so many had to put countless hours into to get into normal mode is insulting.
Are you suggesting you would have prefer Zos add a vMA HM that is more challenging than just plain old vMA for us to grind the new weapons in? That would be new content.
That would be better than giving the weapon on normal.
Oh, so you are not upset that the new weapon was added as a reward for vMA but that the older weapon is a available on normal. Well, it is what it is and I am pretty confident Zos will not be reverting that ever.
The main thing that upsets me is the fact that they added it into normal mode and all the people who grinded it pre patch didn't have thier weapons upgraded. If they would have added a HM for an even better weapon and left the old weapons in standard vet that would have been significantly better.
Its pretty frustrating considering it took me almost 20 runs to get a flame staff and now you can do it on normal to get the same exact flame staff. Now I have to rely on rng again to get the vet level weapon? Thats pretty crappy to do to those who grinded it pre-patch.
Actually before greymoor a lot of us had already farmed for perfected, back then the weapons did come with a perfected bonus and it got taken away from us. Now they decide they want to put the bonus back but not on the weapons that originally had it. So for the sake of your argument yes we had already farmed vet for those weapon for perfected bonuses and Zos decided to steal it from us and now they dont want to give it back but instead they tell us to do it again even though we did. And FYW when we did do it for the perfected bonuses there was no transmutation system so the grind was even bigger which makes it a bigger slap to the face. That is the truth of malestrom arena.Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »Why should they? You never farmed for a perfected one so you should not have them handed to you
As for the imperfect wepon in normal, its just to be like the rest of the perfected system
Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »I remember when the Clockwork city patch came out and zos nerfed our "perfected" versions of the vMA and vDSA weapons because of power creep. Now they added back some buffs and want us to do the same old unchanged content again to get weapons that are hopefully as strong as they were before the first nerf. And I bet Zos nerfs arena weapons again later on to combat power creep and we go through the same cycle over and over because spray painting a busted car is easier than fixing the engine. Also, rip the Asylum weapons. I agree that the destro staff's glitch should've been fixed, but it should've been done without tossing in an additional cornholing with no lube.
Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »I remember when the Clockwork city patch came out and zos nerfed our "perfected" versions of the vMA and vDSA weapons because of power creep. Now they added back some buffs and want us to do the same old unchanged content again to get weapons that are hopefully as strong as they were before the first nerf. And I bet Zos nerfs arena weapons again later on to combat power creep and we go through the same cycle over and over because spray painting a busted car is easier than fixing the engine. Also, rip the Asylum weapons. I agree that the destro staff's glitch should've been fixed, but it should've been done without tossing in an additional cornholing with no lube.
They. Were. Not. Nerfed. With. That. Change.
They changed it from a unique enchantment, to a set bonus. You could then enchant the weapon with a weapon damage glyph AND IT WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN BEFORE!!!! (For the Bow and Inferno staff at least)
Why this myth continues to perpetuate is shocking.
.Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »I remember when the Clockwork city patch came out and zos nerfed our "perfected" versions of the vMA and vDSA weapons because of power creep. Now they added back some buffs and want us to do the same old unchanged content again to get weapons that are hopefully as strong as they were before the first nerf. And I bet Zos nerfs arena weapons again later on to combat power creep and we go through the same cycle over and over because spray painting a busted car is easier than fixing the engine. Also, rip the Asylum weapons. I agree that the destro staff's glitch should've been fixed, but it should've been done without tossing in an additional cornholing with no lube.
They. Were. Not. Nerfed. With. That. Change.
They changed it from a unique enchantment, to a set bonus. You could then enchant the weapon with a weapon damage glyph AND IT WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN BEFORE!!!! (For the Bow and Inferno staff at least)
Why this myth continues to perpetuate is shocking.
The original weapons did have an enchantment on them that was removed, and could be added back by the player. For some of those weapons, they now have a perfected version that has the same benefit that the enchantment had. This can now be doubled by the player, or the player can use a different enchantment. It does not matter whether the weapon was better or worse after the Clockwork change. Perfected re-introduces something that was removed from some of the weapons.
Anywho... The word "nerf" does not mean what people think it means. It means "changed in a way that I don't like". Whether it is better or worse, if the change is not what someone wants, or does not realize that they want, it is a "nerf". Honestly, there was a case a couple of years ago where something was buffed, but it was described by someone as a "nerf" because something else was buffed more. This was when I stopped giving any consideration to "ZOS nerfed X" unless demonstrable and repeatable math using in-game numbers was involved and it showed, beyond any doubt, that it was more than marginally worse. Everything else is just drama for the sake of drama.
(Also, I'm upset that my weapons were not "bumped" up to the perfected version, just like many others, I just don't like when people use disingenuous arguments)