LOVE NEEDED: FIRST TEL VAR MERCHANT (A Star Wars Beggery)

marius_buys

Long ago, in a galaxy far far away...
well 2019 in the Imperial Sewers to be precise
the First Tel Var Merchant got something that made all Star Wars fans sit up and say
Let's go do dem IC dailies! - it was "Runebox: Seigemaster Cotume" and it resembled an outfit worn in that epic spacecowboy genre by George Lucas.
The sewers filled up and mayhem insued between those who gots ta have it and those who gots ta kill em for trying to!

So what's the point?

A Seige of Cyrodiil's merit was obtained by doing the first IC daily of the day.
20 of em gets you a seigemasters close helm
50 gets you the seigemasters costume
Star Wars Char - check!

With the update 26 it became even easier to earn them as you got a proof of every IC daily
and it also became unnecessary to do that dreaded pre-quest to unlock the IC dailies. Nightblades are still in mourning about the juicy unaware tourist's that was skipping around in the IC alleys with their face buried in their inventory to do list!

Yesss sooo what's the point??

I WOULD LOVE IT IF THE FIRST TEL VAR MERCHANT COULD PERHAPS GET SOME NEW STOCK? (For purchase with Cyrodiil Merit Proofs)

Pleeease oh digital asset dev Gods of ZOS could you make us a couple of new preciouses?
#ComeToTheDarksideWeHaveCookies

starlizard70ub17_ESO

The Tel Var merchants in general are badly need of an update or upgrade. In the beginning, they were one of the few places you could get high level, (lvl 10) crafting mats. Tamriel One changed that, and the Tel Var merchants became mostly unimportant. Now I visit the Tel Var merchants about every 4 months or so to trade in the T-stones I got from daily rewards for armor sets I think will sell on my guild's vendors.

marius_buys

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

The Tel Var merchants in general are badly need of an update or upgrade. In the beginning, they were one of the few places you could get high level, (lvl 10) crafting mats. Tamriel One changed that, and the Tel Var merchants became mostly unimportant. Now I visit the Tel Var merchants about every 4 months or so to trade in the T-stones I got from daily rewards for armor sets I think will sell on my guild's vendors.

Yup my point

FrancisCrawford

Star Wars, Weird Al Yankovich and The Hobbit in the same post? Awesome!!

marius_buys

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Star Wars, Weird Al Yankovich and The Hobbit in the same post? Awesome!!

well spotted

Bradyfjord

They could use these vendors to recycle costumes, motifs, and other cosmetics for tel var. It would certainly have my attention.

MilkPrince

Yes please.

marius_buys

Bradyfjord wrote: »

They could use these vendors to recycle costumes, motifs, and other cosmetics for tel var. It would certainly have my attention.

awesome idea

geonsocal

I just finished farming the helm and costume not that long ago...ir's one of my favorite appearances now...

which star wars outfit is it similiar to - the inquisitor or the first order?

I hadn't thought of dying it black, I will now...

marius_buys

geonsocal wrote: »

I just finished farming the helm and costume not that long ago...ir's one of my favorite appearances now...

which star wars outfit is it similiar to - the inquisitor or the first order?

I hadn't thought of dying it black, I will now...

For me its a cross between Mandalorian & Stormtrooper

marius_buys

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/siegemaster/

starlizard70ub17_ESO

marius_buys wrote: »

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/siegemaster/

I wish I hadn't seen this. Now I'm going to have to go out and buy it.

marius_buys

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

marius_buys wrote: »

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/siegemaster/

I wish I hadn't seen this. Now I'm going to have to go out and buy it.

Did you notice the Light Sabre type attachment?

marius_buys

Just wanted to say thanks for stepping up ZOS, I know it was probably in thd pipeline anyway but it's nice to know we have new goods to buy with our Seige of Cyrodill Merit

Moonsorrow

Hey, since you are the leader of Golden Clover and this thread is about IC, gotta ask you something.. why does your guild in IC with 20+ group chases and zergs down lonely low cp daily questers who not even attack you?

I mean, other guild groups who do IC runs for shards and boss achievements never chase solo players. It is a common "policy" on any guild i have ever been in myself too.

The good old "we never attack solo players on IC unless they attack first (aka bombers/gankers)" - rule.

I know it is a pvp zone and "anything goes", but with a big group like 20+ one should have responsibility enough to think how your behaviour can affect other players, even IC first timers experience about it. If they get zerged down by 20+ people repeatedly, you think they will come back there?

Most expect IC to be solo & small-scale playing, not another Cyrodiil with guild zergs chasing lonely Key Fragment farmers.

Other guild groups have for YEARS left solos alone and fight other guild groups if meet such. So.. why? And no, i am not talking about myself. But i spend a lot of time there and have observed this.. and so have others, enough for it to be a meme already.

We need more people on IC, not lonely players being zerged and chased away from there by huge guild groups.

Thank you for your consideration.

Qbiken

Moonsorrow wrote: »

Hey, since you are the leader of Golden Clover and this thread is about IC, gotta ask you something.. why does your guild in IC with 20+ group chases and zergs down lonely low cp daily questers who not even attack you?

I mean, other guild groups who do IC runs for shards and boss achievements never chase solo players. It is a common "policy" on any guild i have ever been in myself too.

The good old "we never attack solo players on IC unless they attack first (aka bombers/gankers)" - rule.

I know it is a pvp zone and "anything goes", but with a big group like 20+ one should have responsibility enough to think how your behaviour can affect other players, even IC first timers experience about it. If they get zerged down by 20+ people repeatedly, you think they will come back there?

Most expect IC to be solo & small-scale playing, not another Cyrodiil with guild zergs chasing lonely Key Fragment farmers.

Other guild groups have for YEARS left solos alone and fight other guild groups if meet such. So.. why? And no, i am not talking about myself. But i spend a lot of time there and have observed this.. and so have others, enough for it to be a meme already.

We need more people on IC, not lonely players being zerged and chased away from there by huge guild groups.

Thank you for your consideration.

Wdym? I kinda enjoy fighting their group from to time, makes for some good small scale if anything

Moonsorrow

Qbiken wrote: »

Moonsorrow wrote: »

Hey, since you are the leader of Golden Clover and this thread is about IC, gotta ask you something.. why does your guild in IC with 20+ group chases and zergs down lonely low cp daily questers who not even attack you?

I mean, other guild groups who do IC runs for shards and boss achievements never chase solo players. It is a common "policy" on any guild i have ever been in myself too.

The good old "we never attack solo players on IC unless they attack first (aka bombers/gankers)" - rule.

I know it is a pvp zone and "anything goes", but with a big group like 20+ one should have responsibility enough to think how your behaviour can affect other players, even IC first timers experience about it. If they get zerged down by 20+ people repeatedly, you think they will come back there?

Most expect IC to be solo & small-scale playing, not another Cyrodiil with guild zergs chasing lonely Key Fragment farmers.

Other guild groups have for YEARS left solos alone and fight other guild groups if meet such. So.. why? And no, i am not talking about myself. But i spend a lot of time there and have observed this.. and so have others, enough for it to be a meme already.

We need more people on IC, not lonely players being zerged and chased away from there by huge guild groups.

Thank you for your consideration.

Wdym? I kinda enjoy fighting their group from to time, makes for some good small scale if anything

I do see on IC zone chat often some new players asking if its always like this in here after being zerged by them and well.. then they just leave.

I just wish guild group leaders would keep that old golden rule about random solos not being zerged down with 20+ numbers. It is not fun to anyone. Or does Clover get fun from it?

In any case, IC needs a healthy population and chasing away new people is not helping.

You know well what i mean: Us oldies are not affected by them that much, but i just wish IC population would grow again, and also not end up just like some Cyrodiil 2 with nothing but laggy zergs chasing or gate camping (in front of base) new players.

marius_buys

Moonsorrow wrote: »

Hey, since you are the leader of Golden Clover and this thread is about IC, gotta ask you something.. why does your guild in IC with 20+ group chases and zergs down lonely low cp daily questers who not even attack you?

I mean, other guild groups who do IC runs for shards and boss achievements never chase solo players. It is a common "policy" on any guild i have ever been in myself too.

The good old "we never attack solo players on IC unless they attack first (aka bombers/gankers)" - rule.

I know it is a pvp zone and "anything goes", but with a big group like 20+ one should have responsibility enough to think how your behaviour can affect other players, even IC first timers experience about it. If they get zerged down by 20+ people repeatedly, you think they will come back there?

Most expect IC to be solo & small-scale playing, not another Cyrodiil with guild zergs chasing lonely Key Fragment farmers.

Other guild groups have for YEARS left solos alone and fight other guild groups if meet such. So.. why? And no, i am not talking about myself. But i spend a lot of time there and have observed this.. and so have others, enough for it to be a meme already.

We need more people on IC, not lonely players being zerged and chased away from there by huge guild groups.

Thank you for your consideration.

Hi
We do daily IC runs as a guild to complete the IC dailies fo a bit of Tel Var and Seigemaster Proofs which we use to buy items to sell in our guild store, so I am not going to limit the number of guildies who show up for the guild run which is quite popular.

Secondly I/we actually DO try not to engage low level players but often its so over so quickly that we literally only notice afterward. It's never done maliciously except maybe if we have a new player, normally a PvE'er, who suddenly realize that they can easily kill a strong PvP player in zerg format. If you have had an unfortunate experience I apologize, please know that players are spoken to about low levels on voice.

Regarding high apm solo players, bombers, small scalers, PvP streamers and other zergs, we love engaging them wether we win or loose. There is nothing that makes doing a daily PvE quest more exciting than a bit argy bargy PvP. This might sound untrue but guildies often speak with great regard of players that know their stuff and the old guard normally burst out with laughter when the newbies get schooled for stacking on flag. It's by no means as hardcore and as serious as it probably seems.

Were in there for a set time and then finish (app1 hrs - 2hrs) as opposed to some predatory types who are in there all hours of the day and park alts at the ladders of opposition, run with informants in their groups and all kinds of other shenanigans that at best can be described as anti gaming.

Nevertheles, I/we simply love IC for it's unscripted challenges and unpredictability and if you're there during EU prime time doing solo quests I would highly suggest investing in invisibility potions when you do run into the odd zerg of whichever faction, it IS after all a PvP zone.

Moonsorrow

marius_buys wrote: »

Regarding high apm solo players, bombers, small scalers, PvP streamers and other zergs, we love engaging them wether we win or loose.

..and if you're there during EU prime time doing solo quests I would highly suggest investing in invisibility potions when you do run into the odd zerg of whichever faction, it IS after all a PvP zone.

[snip]

So you "engage high apm solo players" and so on with 20+ guild discord raid and love it "win or loose".

And the killing of lonely lowbies is an "oops, sorry lil buddy, it happened so quickly on this zerg format that makes us able to actually kill someone".

Only time there is a reason to run in a such big group is during the IC event when there actually ARE other big groups too.

Other guild groups DO mainly follow the polite and respectful way of leaving solos fight other solos. Why? Because it is just good sportsmanship and taking other players experience and fun also into consideration. [snip]

And as said, i was not talking about myself. But about the new people i see getting a bad experience (repeatedly) being zerged by a large discord group.

Most guild leaders are responsible and emphatic enough to realize that while yes, "it is a pvp zone", a big group should not act like a gang of bullies [snip]

[snip] while it is a pvp zone.. if it turns into a big discord zerg running down people long enough, it will end up a DEAD pvp zone.

Because it is not fun for anyone else than to the power tripping zerg, so why would people come back to that? If that is the new to IC players experience, you REALLY think they enjoy it and come back? Seriously? But hey, "just bring Invis pots so maybe not get zerged by us!".O RLY/s

[snip

Either take other players, the pvp community and the health of the IC population into consideration, or be a "zerg format" meme with selfish playstyle. It is a pvp zone yes, and it is your choice on how you want it to be for you and for others. Personally i always try to aim for a fun pvp experience for everyone, including "enemies". Don't think i have anything more to say on this issue so i`ll be out of this thread now.

I wish everyone has a fun weekend though!

[Edited to remove Baiting]

marius_buys

Moonsorrow wrote: »

marius_buys wrote: »

Regarding high apm solo players, bombers, small scalers, PvP streamers and other zergs, we love engaging them wether we win or loose.

..and if you're there during EU prime time doing solo quests I would highly suggest investing in invisibility potions when you do run into the odd zerg of whichever faction, it IS after all a PvP zone.

[snip]

So you "engage high apm solo players" and so on with 20+ guild discord raid and love it "win or loose".

And the killing of lonely lowbies is an "oops, sorry lil buddy, it happened so quickly on this zerg format that makes us able to actually kill someone".

Only time there is a reason to run in a such big group is during the IC event when there actually ARE other big groups too.

Other guild groups DO mainly follow the polite and respectful way of leaving solos fight other solos. Why? Because it is just good sportsmanship and taking other players experience and fun also into consideration. [snip]

And as said, i was not talking about myself. But about the new people i see getting a bad experience (repeatedly) being zerged by a large discord group.

Most guild leaders are responsible and emphatic enough to realize that while yes, "it is a pvp zone", a big group should not act like a gang of bullies [snip]

[snip] while it is a pvp zone.. if it turns into a big discord zerg running down people long enough, it will end up a DEAD pvp zone.

Because it is not fun for anyone else than to the power tripping zerg, so why would people come back to that? If that is the new to IC players experience, you REALLY think they enjoy it and come back? Seriously? But hey, "just bring Invis pots so maybe not get zerged by us!".O RLY/s

[snip

Either take other players, the pvp community and the health of the IC population into consideration, or be a "zerg format" meme with selfish playstyle. It is a pvp zone yes, and it is your choice on how you want it to be for you and for others. Personally i always try to aim for a fun pvp experience for everyone, including "enemies". Don't think i have anything more to say on this issue so i`ll be out of this thread now.

I wish everyone has a fun weekend though!

Dude, thats your opinion and you're entitled to it. You play your way, well play ours. If you want to duel, I suggest Bergama, if you want to play in perfectly controled conditions I sugget try PvE or Battlegrounds.

Have you maybe considered that our group is made up of solo players, newbies, PvE players and guys who are tired of being destroyed by your small scale group that the larger group is a natural reaction to it? [snip] I solo farm Tel Var and dont qq about it when I get small scaled, night bladed or wiped by pro PvP players. It's completely normal as it's a PvP zone.

[snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Moonsorrow

marius_buys wrote: »

Moonsorrow wrote: »

marius_buys wrote: »

Regarding high apm solo players, bombers, small scalers, PvP streamers and other zergs, we love engaging them wether we win or loose.

..and if you're there during EU prime time doing solo quests I would highly suggest investing in invisibility potions when you do run into the odd zerg of whichever faction, it IS after all a PvP zone.

[snip]

So you "engage high apm solo players" and so on with 20+ guild discord raid and love it "win or loose".

And the killing of lonely lowbies is an "oops, sorry lil buddy, it happened so quickly on this zerg format that makes us able to actually kill someone".

Only time there is a reason to run in a such big group is during the IC event when there actually ARE other big groups too.

Other guild groups DO mainly follow the polite and respectful way of leaving solos fight other solos. Why? Because it is just good sportsmanship and taking other players experience and fun also into consideration. [snip]

And as said, i was not talking about myself. But about the new people i see getting a bad experience (repeatedly) being zerged by a large discord group.

Most guild leaders are responsible and emphatic enough to realize that while yes, "it is a pvp zone", a big group should not act like a gang of bullies [snip]

[snip] while it is a pvp zone.. if it turns into a big discord zerg running down people long enough, it will end up a DEAD pvp zone.

Because it is not fun for anyone else than to the power tripping zerg, so why would people come back to that? If that is the new to IC players experience, you REALLY think they enjoy it and come back? Seriously? But hey, "just bring Invis pots so maybe not get zerged by us!".O RLY/s

[snip

Either take other players, the pvp community and the health of the IC population into consideration, or be a "zerg format" meme with selfish playstyle. It is a pvp zone yes, and it is your choice on how you want it to be for you and for others. Personally i always try to aim for a fun pvp experience for everyone, including "enemies". Don't think i have anything more to say on this issue so i`ll be out of this thread now.

I wish everyone has a fun weekend though!

Dude, thats your opinion and you're entitled to it. You play your way, well play ours. If you want to duel, I suggest Bergama, if you want to play in perfectly controled conditions I sugget try PvE or Battlegrounds.

Have you maybe considered that our group is made up of solo players, newbies, PvE players and guys who are tired of being destroyed by your small scale group that the larger group is a natural reaction to it? [snip] I solo farm Tel Var and dont qq about it when I get small scaled, night bladed or wiped by pro PvP players. It's completely normal as it's a PvP zone.

[snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

I do not small-scale at IC, purely solo there except on IC event i was in a duo (ooh scary).

And cool, i will send direct message to you about the duel so we can arrange a time that fits for both.

And having a group of 20+ "newbies" chasing lonely newbies.. does not make it right. But as you said, you are also entitled to your opinion.

I do not "qq", i just wish new to IC players have good enough experience when they come and try how it is to actually come again instead of being zerged down by guild discord groups. I think about the future of IC and it's population, you want protection of a big group, that i understand when IC event is on since then there are also other zergs around. But outside of that, such a big group against lonely newbies is an overkill that drives some people away.

I just hoped you would see my point also and would have sympathy for the not so "pvp pro" tier players there from the opposite alliances, they are like you. Would YOU like to be zerged down by a group like yours? You know the answer in your heart.

And no, this is not salty text [snip], we are having a conversation with a smile and with all good intentions in mind. From text can be hard to see if it is angry text or constructive discussion i know, but the intent is to have IC that would be fun for everyone.

I do not mind if your guild runs with a big group, but just wish you would play by the same polite rule than others do and let random solo new players to have fun there too. In my opinion such a wish is with all good intentions, for everyone. So we have IC with lively population and people having fun there.

[Edited to remove Discussing Disciplinary Action]

Mitrenga

I agree. In general, all IC vendors need an upgrade.

Jaraal

Personally, I never attack solo players obviously doing dailies, like burning ballistas, etc. Conversely, I'm smart enough to go the other way when I see the zerg coming, as I expect to be killed and never take offense when I am. Sure, it's nice to be shown courtesy on occasion, but anyone who enters a PvP zone expecting to be given quarter is delusional.

With the addition of antiquities leads being populated in PvP zones, there is a considerable influx of PvEers who don't really want to be there, but need the drops for their gear / furnishings. It's unfortunate that there's not a way for different alliances to work together to take down the patrolling bosses, since aoes and such don't differentiate between Daedra/Legionnaires and non-hostile enemy players.

I also agree with adding new stuff to the vendors! Tradeable furnishings / furnishing plans would be welcome. Some people make big bank farming 4 man and trial instances to sell things to those who aren't interested in that sort of content, so nothing wrong with throwing some more bones to PvPers as well.