Let us hide our shoulder armor!

FabresFour

Zenimax, for the love of the Eight Divines, let us hide the shoulders!

Seriously, make an option similar to hide helmet. Or even had something like that in the crown store, I would EASILY pay for it.

A character without those disgusting shoulder floating around is much more realistic and badass.

Please, it's something simple and easy

Nestor

There are some shoulders that are more like Arm Bands with the Outfit System to hide the shoulders.

But, it would be nice to have a toggle as most shoulders are not attractive (ok, some are downright ugly and remind me of the 80's)

Highlor3

Also would be nice an option to duplicate monster shoulders, and have complete shoulder pauldrons.

DreamsUnderStars

Yes, so much yes! Shoulders and gloves both! I use light Subspire because they are the most unobtrusive of all the gloves out there. Also light Honor Guard shoulders get hidden on certain outfits and blend nicely with others.

But hiding both like we can with helmets is still the best option.

tomofhyrule

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

Yes, so much yes! Shoulders and gloves both! I use light Subspire because they are the most unobtrusive of all the gloves out there. Also light Honor Guard shoulders get hidden on certain outfits and blend nicely with others.

But hiding both like we can with helmets is still the best option.

Light Mazzatun gloves are really unobtrusive - it's a simple wristband and nothing else.

Still, I'd love to see a 'hide shoulder' option since there are so many pauldrons that get in the way. I wouldn't even mind 'hide slot' active on everything - sure people complain about how lore appropriate it would be to have a bunch of people running around naked, but most of the skins/mounts/armors/cosmetics you see in town now are hardly lore appropriate. Besides, sometimes you just want to play a shirtless barbarian.

Blackwolfe5

Being able to hide the shoulders would be wonderful indeed. There are a few shoulders that are good but mostly nah.

One big issue is that both helmets and shoulders scale terribly with body proportions. Shoulders on female characters are worse more often than on males as well.

DreamsUnderStars

tomofhyrule wrote: »

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

Yes, so much yes! Shoulders and gloves both! I use light Subspire because they are the most unobtrusive of all the gloves out there. Also light Honor Guard shoulders get hidden on certain outfits and blend nicely with others.

But hiding both like we can with helmets is still the best option.

Light Mazzatun gloves are really unobtrusive - it's a simple wristband and nothing else.

Still, I'd love to see a 'hide shoulder' option since there are so many pauldrons that get in the way. I wouldn't even mind 'hide slot' active on everything - sure people complain about how lore appropriate it would be to have a bunch of people running around naked, but most of the skins/mounts/armors/cosmetics you see in town now are hardly lore appropriate. Besides, sometimes you just want to play a shirtless barbarian.

Exactly. I don't think ZOS is a stickler for "lore appropriate" when they give us atronachs and skinless animal mounts (crypt warden dog), among other things.

I'll check out Mazzatun gloves, thanks!

SOLDIER_1stClass

I'd love to be able to hide the ridiculous hip protectors on chest gear

CMDR_Un1k0rn

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

Yes, so much yes! Shoulders and gloves both! I use light Subspire because they are the most unobtrusive of all the gloves out there. Also light Honor Guard shoulders get hidden on certain outfits and blend nicely with others.

But hiding both like we can with helmets is still the best option.

Light Mazzatun gloves are really unobtrusive - it's a simple wristband and nothing else.

Still, I'd love to see a 'hide shoulder' option since there are so many pauldrons that get in the way. I wouldn't even mind 'hide slot' active on everything - sure people complain about how lore appropriate it would be to have a bunch of people running around naked, but most of the skins/mounts/armors/cosmetics you see in town now are hardly lore appropriate. Besides, sometimes you just want to play a shirtless barbarian.

Exactly. I don't think ZOS is a stickler for "lore appropriate" when they give us atronachs and skinless animal mounts (crypt warden dog), among other things.

I'll check out Mazzatun gloves, thanks!

That skinless mount is a breed of creature that was first introduced to Elder Scrolls in the Dawnguard DLC. It was always a tame creature there, too. Under the control of vampires, mind, but tamed nonetheless.

So actually. Yes, they are lore-appropriate and have been part of the setting for almost a decade now.

DreamsUnderStars

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

So actually. Yes, they are lore-appropriate and have been part of the setting for almost a decade now.

It's not lore-appropriate for player characters to be riding them through towns, unless you also think Vamps and werewolves tramping about town without causing mass panic and armed response is also lore-appropriate. Or Sorcerors running around with daedra pets for that matter.

I also never said those mounts weren't apart of the setting. Lore-appropriate and "not a part of the setting" are two different critters.

SydneyGrey

YES!
A big chunk of my time spent in the outfit station is just me trying to find the least-obnoxious shoulders to use. Basically that excludes 99% of all the shoulders in there.

TheShadowScout

As I keep mentioning:

TheShadowScout wrote: »

The most reasonable thing we can expect...
...is for them to sell "invisible armor" motiv pages in the crown store.

I mean, the suits in charge certainly won't send a code-jockey to spend their paid time programming the hide function for all outfit slots without wanting to see some profit, right?

But selling people the option... that would appeal to their shriveled greedy little hearts, right?

As for the lore... well, I already said it. "Invisible Armor". Enchanting your sturdy armor with an invisibility spell, to lure your foe into a false sense of security...
I mean, look at this guy:

...and that is still the best option we can hope for.

Nestor wrote: »

There are some shoulders that are more like Arm Bands with the Outfit System to hide the shoulders.

Yeah, tsaesci and light honor guard come to mind specifically. Dwemer light might also work. And there are a few others that could, depending on what you pair them with...

And some more which have "pixane" style pieces in light armor, which look a lot better for "barechested" outfit setups - stuff like light ancient elf, light assassins league, light low-tier breton, light glass, light high elf, light malacath, light soul-shriven, light thieves, light trinimac, light yokudan... the prophets shawl too... etc.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Light Mazzatun gloves are really unobtrusive - it's a simple wristband and nothing else.

Light Pyandonean are similar if you like a more "civilized" looking style. There are also the "Prophet wraps" which are just some bandages around the hands... or the prisoners shackles...

Guess it always depends on what the desired outfit is like, huh? Good thing one can preview styles not yet unlocked to know what to shop/search/farm for...

SOLDIER_1stClass wrote: »

I'd love to be able to hide the ridiculous hip protectors on chest gear

A lot of us think that way... I mean, they look all right with heavy armor, acceptable with some medium styles... but for light robes??? Sheesh.
Oh, well, at least in recent times, they have started to do more motivs wiothout those things, so there is that...

In any case, yeah, we really could use some more options for making "summer outfit" designs.
Not like that will happen right now, with the current chapter I suppose we can expect lots "ice and snow" themes motivs to be a thing, but... someday?
I do have some hopes that soon enoughj they will go to the deserts of hammerfell for an chapter to complete the trip 'round Tamriel, and then I am hoping we might get some "ancient egypt" style outfits, perhaps as "ancestral yokudan" or something... could be that there would be some more light-cover options for people who want to show off their character tatoos, bodypaint markings or ritual scars... one can hope, right?

Kittytravel

It'd make more sense to allow an option to hide anything at this point.
They give us a LOT of body markings that have almost no reason to be in the game with how much the armor covers them up; Meridia Markings are a really good example imo. Same with Psijic, textured nicely with their own little glow effect and then you can barely see them because we can't hide armor.

After all aside from the very poor "my immersion" argument there really isn't a reason we can't have people walking around completely shirtless; not like Sai Sahan didn't do it for the entirety of the Molag Bal story arc and he never got stabbed through the chest.

Armor can be outfitted to look like other ones that are in the same category so it's not even like you can cite an "advantage" over them hiding their armor so that you know if they are wearing light/medium/heavy. It's all just about as misleading as having it invisible anyhow.

TropicsDelight

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I mean, look at this guy:

...and that is still the best option we can hope for.

That is seriously ridiculous, and it goes far beyond the shoulders. Look at the bracers, they are twice as wide as the forearm ffs... And lest we forget the ever present hip protectors are still there to represent.

That whole outfit looks terrible. The development team for the armor needs to start listening to the customers who play the game because there are very few people actually stating that the above is OK, it is almost universally disliked..

Athyrium93

While we are at it begging for an option to hide shoulders can we also hide the awful hip things on chest pieces? They aren't so bad on big bulky male characters, but on dainty little female characters especially they stick out so far that they float... if you want to talk about immersion breaking I'd say floating armor tops it for me personally...

Ferrym4n

Most of the armour sets fail on shoulders, the tassets/ battle skirts are not too much of a problem.

Hiding Shoulders would be welcome.

Completely agree with the idea and comments about body tattoos.

Lotus781

Never gonna happen the idea is far too sensible for zos.

Hanokihs

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

So actually. Yes, they are lore-appropriate and have been part of the setting for almost a decade now.

It's not lore-appropriate for player characters to be riding them through towns, unless you also think Vamps and werewolves tramping about town without causing mass panic and armed response is also lore-appropriate. Or Sorcerors running around with daedra pets for that matter.

I also never said those mounts weren't apart of the setting. Lore-appropriate and "not a part of the setting" are two different critters.

Technically, we're collectively one single protagonist. Just saying. And the protagonists of all the games can do weird, special things that nobody else can/will do. Chalk this up to gameplay and story segregation.

Back on topic, why don't they just make it so that all armor channels have a hide option? Fashion matters. Much like the option to use pink weapons everyone cried about before they realized few people actually do that, nobody is going to "abuse" it to run around as a naked orc, who isn't already running around as a naked orc. Let people make the outfits of their dreams, ZoS!

Anumaril

This needs to be added already. All of my outfits would look x100 better without their overbearing shoulders, and I'm itching to be able to hide them.

The dev builds already have the ability to hide shoulder slots, I don't see why this is kept from the rest of us.

Anumaril

SydneyGrey wrote: »

YES!
A big chunk of my time spent in the outfit station is just me trying to find the least-obnoxious shoulders to use. Basically that excludes 99% of all the shoulders in there.

This is exactly what I spend my time on as well. I put together a really nice looking outfit and then sigh with exasperation as I am forced to predictably choose Mercenary Epaulets because they're the only unobtrusive option that somewhat fit my outfits. I would really like for there to just be an option to hide the blasted shoulders already.

Xologamer

FabresFour wrote: »

Zenimax, for the love of the Eight Divines, let us hide the shoulders!

Seriously, make an option similar to hide helmet. Or even had something like that in the crown store, I would EASILY pay for it.

A character without those disgusting shoulder floating around is much more realistic and badass.

Please, it's something simple and easy

first i want an option to hide the guild tarbards

Internet_Mask

Ferrym4n wrote: »

Most of the armour sets fail on shoulders, the tassets/ battle skirts are not too much of a problem.

Hiding Shoulders would be welcome.

Completely agree with the idea and comments about body tattoos.

Hard disagree. With the outfit system you can usually find something in the shoulder slot that meshes with the rest of the outfit.

Make no mistake we should totally be able to hide shoulders, but the tassets and flaps on chest armor are the bigger problem in my opinion. Putting aside all the other issues with them they make mixing and matching different motifs difficult when clipping and all that is taken into account.