Regrinding VMA

SolidusPrime

I just don't get this argument. Nobody demanded to get Undaunted furnishing trophies when they were released just because they had run the dungeons 100 times before the feature was implemented.

heaven13

seerevaloc wrote: »

Got my inferno staff on the 3rd or 4th run... Don't be a pessimist.
However, I did it for the sake of having it, no benefit. The majority of my friends didn't give any [snip] and they're already enjoying their life.

Don't stress yourself for something unworthy.

Ah yes. Optimism, the fool proof method to thwart bad RNG.

heaven13

SolidusPrime wrote: »

I just don't get this argument. Nobody demanded to get Undaunted furnishing trophies when they were released just because they had run the dungeons 100 times before the feature was implemented.

Because NO furnishing existed before then. It was an entirely brand new feature. Weapons were the reward for beating vet and still are the reward for beating vet but anyone that previously beat vet had their existing vet rewards turned into rewards for completing normal.

SolidusPrime

heaven13 wrote: »

SolidusPrime wrote: »

I just don't get this argument. Nobody demanded to get Undaunted furnishing trophies when they were released just because they had run the dungeons 100 times before the feature was implemented.

Because NO furnishing existed before then. It was an entirely brand new feature. Weapons were the reward for beating vet and still are the reward for beating vet but anyone that previously beat vet had their existing vet rewards turned into rewards for completing normal.

Splitting hairs, in my opinion. People are being asked to run the same content they ran many times in the past to get a new reward. I really don't get how it's different just because it's a weapon. I care more about decorations than my DPS, personally. So if they upgrade weapons I want Undaunted trophies for every single dungeon I beat previously and can't be bothered to enter again.

heaven13

SolidusPrime wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

SolidusPrime wrote: »

I just don't get this argument. Nobody demanded to get Undaunted furnishing trophies when they were released just because they had run the dungeons 100 times before the feature was implemented.

Because NO furnishing existed before then. It was an entirely brand new feature. Weapons were the reward for beating vet and still are the reward for beating vet but anyone that previously beat vet had their existing vet rewards turned into rewards for completing normal.

Splitting hairs, in my opinion. People are being asked to run the same content they ran many times in the past to get a new reward. I really don't get how it's different just because it's a weapon. I care more about decorations than my DPS, personally. So if they upgrade weapons I want Undaunted trophies for every single dungeon I beat previously and can't be bothered to enter again.

SolidusPrime wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

SolidusPrime wrote: »

I just don't get this argument. Nobody demanded to get Undaunted furnishing trophies when they were released just because they had run the dungeons 100 times before the feature was implemented.

Because NO furnishing existed before then. It was an entirely brand new feature. Weapons were the reward for beating vet and still are the reward for beating vet but anyone that previously beat vet had their existing vet rewards turned into rewards for completing normal.

Splitting hairs, in my opinion. People are being asked to run the same content they ran many times in the past to get a new reward. I really don't get how it's different just because it's a weapon. I care more about decorations than my DPS, personally. So if they upgrade weapons I want Undaunted trophies for every single dungeon I beat previously and can't be bothered to enter again.

But it's not really a new reward. That's what is splitting hairs. The weapon was the reward for beating vet. There's still a weapon being rewarded for beating vet. There was never a weapon for beating normal and now there is so that's the NEW reward, imo.

But yes, introducing new rewards (like motifs in dungeons that have been released for awhile) is a different thing.

xF1REFL1x

Like many have already said... the dps is minimal enough that you don't need it. I already have enough grind in this game as it is... not going to add any more grind to the game.

gatekeeper13

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

2) ZOS policy of endless grinding is disgusting standard MMO gameplay across the industry

But anyway.... /shrug

Oh, so just because MMOs use it to make players addicted to them, we should agree with ZOS adding even more grinding to the game without expressing our distaste. Logic.

Nordic__Knights

lucky for me i just moved over to pc ( no VMA yet) but i wont be doing it . ill just take the easy road here and do nma as its really the best out of the two weapons being the new bonus added aint going to do anything worth the grind to get the weapon i need . but on my ps4 account ill never try to upgrade my weapons ( have them all after 600+ runs)as they wont make my builds better in any way !!!!!!!!!

Strider__Roshin

Heh

Thechuckage

SolidusPrime wrote: »

I just don't get this argument. Nobody demanded to get Undaunted furnishing trophies when they were released just because they had run the dungeons 100 times before the feature was implemented.

If we could beat mobs to death with the furnishing trophies, you would have an argument. Come to think of it, it would be awesome to beat something to death with the stuffed head of a boss

tweedledum

yup no point to run this place over and over... again

idk

zvavi wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

I've just finished with the mythic grind today, don't even know if I can bring myself to get the *new* arena weapons, most of the bonuses are so tiny, I'm not sure their worth the hassle, expect maybe masters and vma 2 handers.

Inferno doesn't even higher your damage in an optimised group.

This is the one thing that surprised me. Rich and company know these weapons are for the top players in the game, that most of the players will not put in the effort to clear vMA, let alone clear it many times, to get their weapons. I think Rich even acknowledged this in one of his replies to questions/comments concerning the new perfected weapons.

All that yet they add a state that is worthless with organized groups at the time when the benefits of the weapon would be most useful. I take no issue with having to farm for the new weapons. I do have an issue with farming for a weapon that the improvement is not very useful when I need it most.

Someone had a brain fart when they worked on the dStaff. Oddly, they have someone on their combat that has enough actual experience that they should have raised a red flag that the spell pen on the inferno was not a bright idea.,

dinokstrunz

It's just not worth any of my time to rerun vMA. Good design ZoS.

WiseSky

Am I the Only one Enjoying the VMA runs trying to get Flawless Conqueror?

Heelie

I have done 80ish runs this patch and found every perfected so far, I really enjoy vMA as now instaces arent actually that bad, if you can't spend 30 ish minutes to clear vMA once in a while, you prob wont need the weapons.

xXMeowMeowXx

WiseSky wrote: »

Am I the Only one Enjoying the VMA runs trying to get Flawless Conqueror?

Probably, since most of us that got screwed over had it on multiple characters....if not all of them.

I would rather be grinding in a new Solo/Duo Arena that was much more difficult than VMA.

•New achievements
•New Titles
•New rewards like a Poly or Personality
•New Better Weapons worth the grind

•New Challenging Content not much incentive for that now after this disgrace....

gg ZOS gg

pod88kk

After numerous runs, getting Stormproof and Flawless Conqueror and 2 inferno staffs I'll only be running it on normal from now on to get the Elemental Succession inferno. Don't see the point in running it on vet anymore

Kadoin

idk wrote: »

Oddly, they have someone on their combat that has enough actual experience that they should have raised a red flag that the spell pen on the inferno was not a bright idea.,

You don't get it! They are trying to keep the MAG man down...!

Dar'Norok

Finally got what I need from VMA... hopefully this is the last time I see it.. Honestly VMA would have been a lot more enjoyable if we didn't have RNG loot

seerevaloc

heaven13 wrote: »

seerevaloc wrote: »

Got my inferno staff on the 3rd or 4th run... Don't be a pessimist.
However, I did it for the sake of having it, no benefit. The majority of my friends didn't give any [snip] and they're already enjoying their life.

Don't stress yourself for something unworthy.

Ah yes. Optimism, the fool proof method to thwart bad RNG.

What else should/can I say @heaven13 ?