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Lyris, Sai and the Prophet - *Spoiler Below*
VirtualElizabeth
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*Spoiler alert for those of you that haven't finished the original main quest with the Prophet.**
I am curious about something regarding Lyris in Greymoor and Sai in Dragonhold:
Feel free to move this, if I am posting in the wrong section. Thanks!
Edited by VirtualElizabeth on June 2, 2020 2:43PM I am curious about something regarding Lyris in Greymoor and Sai in Dragonhold:
I am a romantic at heart. So during the numerous playthroughs of the original quest with the Companions, I never had the heart to kill off Sai or Lyris. For those of you who did (evil people), how did the presence of the character you killed off get explained in the expansions.
Feel free to move this, if I am posting in the wrong section. Thanks!
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VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭Thanks @StevenIV! Honestly I was a bit disappointed that their relationship didn't really seem to be a topic of convo either, at least with Sai. I haven't gotten that far into it with Lyris.
I wish Greymoor featured both characters since the assumption is they went off and became a couple. I guess I am just a hopeless romantic, LOL.@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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✭My main killed sacrificed Sai and took his role as the Redguard in Five Companions. Spent many long nights comforting Lyris also...
When he returned it was quite remarkable but Sai wasn’t stressing it so all is good.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
{time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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Foefaller✭✭✭Sai Sahan didn't really know how he returned, only that he did and that he was dedicated to dealing with the Dragons due to having been part of Varen Aquilarios's Dragonguard. It's been speculated that as he was sacrificed for the Amulet of Kings that Akatosh may have sent him back to deal with the dragons, especially due to the Akatosh/Alkosh imagery in the expansions.
Lyris explains that she escaped Coldharbour, having escaped before which meant she knew how to do it again. She returned to serve the Skald King as the Empire and Varen were gone.
Neither really talk about that much.
Actually, based on her dialog Lyris got to go to Sovengard for a while before being sent back.4 -
adriant1978✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Actually, based on her dialog Lyris got to go to Sovengard for a while before being sent back.
Not sure who you've been speaking to, but she says "Breaking out of Coldharbour once is damn hard. Breaking out twice? Easier than you'd think. Anyway, chin up. We've got work to do."
She says that she wanted to go to Sovngarde to see her parents to persuade you to sacrifice her, but it seems she didn't quite make it for whatever reason. Perhaps that's what you remember?
I got the "went to Sovngarde" speech too on a character who I know sacrificed Lyris.1 -
adriant1978✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Interesting, I've checked the dialogue out of interest and she does say "Was I in Sovngarde? Maybe. But then I was back here, in Tamriel."
Seems nobody knows for sure how she returns, not even herself.
She also talks about spending time in a hall of great warriors and being unsure how long she was there for. It's definitely ambiguous, but heavily hinted to be Sovngarde IMO.1 -
The_Drop_Bear✭✭✭Sai Sahan didn't really know how he returned, only that he did and that he was dedicated to dealing with the Dragons due to having been part of Varen Aquilarios's Dragonguard. It's been speculated that as he was sacrificed for the Amulet of Kings that Akatosh may have sent him back to deal with the dragons, especially due to the Akatosh/Alkosh imagery in the expansions.
Lyris explains that she escaped Coldharbour, having escaped before which meant she knew how to do it again. She returned to serve the Skald King as the Empire and Varen were gone.
Neither really talk about that much.
Lyris doesn't say that she says this
Home?
"It felt like home. There was a great longhouse in the fog. It was warm inside, full of people like me. Warriors.
I don't know how long I was there, but eventually I woke up one day and I really was home. In Skyrim."0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How can one explain the inexplicable? Lyris Schrodingerborn (Both dead and alive at the same time) just magically appeared to sell new content. Story continuity is irrelevant.3 -
Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I thought this had been settled?!
Magic. It was done with magic. Aedric stuff probably. 😛😉✨💫1 -
VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭VirtualElizabeth wrote: »I wish Greymoor featured both characters since the assumption is they went off and became a couple. I guess I am just a hopeless romantic, LOL.
I'm 99% sure that we will see them reunite towards the end of the Q4 DLC just as Abnur Tharn and Sai did last year! Sai Sahan did say at the end of Dragonhold that he was going to go and find Lyris.
When you tell Lyris that he's alive, she seemed annoyed that he hadn't done so sooner so I'm sure it'll be fun to watch!
I can't wait for this!@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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The_Drop_Bear✭✭✭The_Drop_Bear wrote: »Lyris doesn't say that she says this
She says it when you ask her the first time in the Icereach dungeon.
Well that has been retconned then0 -
Bradyfjord✭✭✭✭✭I'd imagine that after we weakened Molag Bal, it might be easier to escape. At least for a while. Maybe that's why the King of Worms escapes.
When you think about it, there's a lot of people that escape Molag Bal. We really did weaken him.1 -
The_Drop_Bear✭✭✭Bradyfjord wrote: »I'd imagine that after we weakened Molag Bal, it might be easier to escape. At least for a while. Maybe that's why the King of Worms escapes.
When you think about it, there's a lot of people that escape Molag Bal. We really did weaken him.
Not really only Mannimarco escapes, and that might be because we freed him, if not it's after an undetermined amount of time.0 -
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✭✭✭✭How would Lyris of escaped from Coldharbour when she never would of been trapped there given you sacrifice her to power the Amulet of Kings, if anything her soul should of gone to Aetherius.0 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭You know what, I'm genuinely cannot wait for next year, cos I completely 100% expect that The Prophet will be featured in next year's year-long story. And I cannot wait to see how he explains his death and rebirth (all my characters in general have sacrificed The Prophet).If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!3 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You know what, I'm genuinely cannot wait for next year, cos I completely 100% expect that The Prophet will be featured in next year's year-long story. And I cannot wait to see how he explains his death and rebirth (all my characters in general have sacrificed The Prophet).
"Look, Vestige, Akatosh didn't want me as a fake Dragonborn and he didn't want me hanging around Aetherius either."
"So...what are you up to now?"
"I've shacked up with Stuga. "Do you know how long I've been waiting for you to speak with me at the Harborage?!""
"Noooo!"Edited by VaranisArano on June 5, 2020 5:16PM9 -
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✭I decided to sacrifice Sai, and fortunately I won't have to worry about him coming back, because I'm not playing Elsweyr's main story. I'm not going to play it specifically because I know it brings Sai back and kills Abnur (the only Companion I actually like), taking a pipi all over my choices from the main quest.
Bananas to whoever's in charge of writing these lame quests at ZOS.“He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”luv Abnur
luv Rigurt
luv Stibbons
'ate Ayrenn
'ate Razum-dar
'ate Khamira
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Ashfen✭✭✭✭I decided to sacrifice Sai, and fortunately I won't have to worry about him coming back, because I'm not playing Elsweyr's main story. I'm not going to play it specifically because I know it brings Sai back and kills Abnur (the only Companion I actually like), taking a pipi all over my choices from the main quest.
I understand your feeling. Abnur is my fav character so far, i was really disgusted they killed him in Elsweyr.
I never really liked Sai Sahan so i don't know if it's me but i found him really annoying in Dragonhold DLC. I don't know how to explain it exactly (especially in English since it's not my language lol) but i found him ... fake. I mean, i always had the impression his only aim is to be a hero, it's so superficial.
Abnur is totally the opposite. He doesn't care what people think of him but all his actions are for the good of the Empire (and for repairing his mistakes in Elsweyr).1 -
The_Drop_Bear✭✭✭I decided to sacrifice Sai, and fortunately I won't have to worry about him coming back, because I'm not playing Elsweyr's main story. I'm not going to play it specifically because I know it brings Sai back and kills Abnur (the only Companion I actually like), taking a pipi all over my choices from the main quest.
I understand your feeling. Abnur is my fav character so far, i was really disgusted they killed him in Elsweyr.
I never really liked Sai Sahan so i don't know if it's me but i found him really annoying in Dragonhold DLC. I don't know how to explain it exactly (especially in English since it's not my language lol) but i found him ... fake. I mean, i always had the impression his only aim is to be a hero, it's so superficial.
Abnur is totally the opposite. He doesn't care what people think of him but all his actions are for the good of the Empire (and for repairing his mistakes in Elsweyr).
Same that's why I sacrificed sai.
Although the end of elswyer hinted that he might not be dead.
In the greymoor expansion there is an imperial time traveler going by the name of Thaddeus Cosma, he says he knows who we are then says wait what year is it then says not to say as there are enough temporal instability in the area.
Thaddeus' face looks exactly like Abnars.3 -
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✭✭My main sacrificed Sai and I'm pretty sure I also got the bit of Sai not remembering how he came back to life. It's a mystery!0 -
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✭✭The_Drop_Bear wrote: »I decided to sacrifice Sai, and fortunately I won't have to worry about him coming back, because I'm not playing Elsweyr's main story. I'm not going to play it specifically because I know it brings Sai back and kills Abnur (the only Companion I actually like), taking a pipi all over my choices from the main quest.
I understand your feeling. Abnur is my fav character so far, i was really disgusted they killed him in Elsweyr.
I never really liked Sai Sahan so i don't know if it's me but i found him really annoying in Dragonhold DLC. I don't know how to explain it exactly (especially in English since it's not my language lol) but i found him ... fake. I mean, i always had the impression his only aim is to be a hero, it's so superficial.
Abnur is totally the opposite. He doesn't care what people think of him but all his actions are for the good of the Empire (and for repairing his mistakes in Elsweyr).
Same that's why I sacrificed sai.
Although the end of elswyer hinted that he might not be dead.
In the greymoor expansion there is an imperial time traveler going by the name of Thaddeus Cosma, he says he knows who we are then says wait what year is it then says not to say as there are enough temporal instability in the area.
Thaddeus' face looks exactly like Abnars.
Say whaaaaa?!
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✭✭I decided to sacrifice Sai, and fortunately I won't have to worry about him coming back, because I'm not playing Elsweyr's main story. I'm not going to play it specifically because I know it brings Sai back and kills Abnur (the only Companion I actually like), taking a pipi all over my choices from the main quest.
I never really liked Sai Sahan so i don't know if it's me but i found him really annoying in Dragonhold DLC. I don't know how to explain it exactly (especially in English since it's not my language lol) but i found him ... fake. I mean, i always had the impression his only aim is to be a hero, it's so superficial.
It is funny you say that as it's a matter of perspective maybe. I saw Sai as so driven by honuor he spent what seemed like an eternity being tortured. A personal hell fighting to protect people he would never see again. And for that reason I picked him to be sacrificed because he said himself he really had nothing to live for and in my opinion he deserved to finally be at peace.0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Drop_Bear wrote: »I decided to sacrifice Sai, and fortunately I won't have to worry about him coming back, because I'm not playing Elsweyr's main story. I'm not going to play it specifically because I know it brings Sai back and kills Abnur (the only Companion I actually like), taking a pipi all over my choices from the main quest.
I understand your feeling. Abnur is my fav character so far, i was really disgusted they killed him in Elsweyr.
I never really liked Sai Sahan so i don't know if it's me but i found him really annoying in Dragonhold DLC. I don't know how to explain it exactly (especially in English since it's not my language lol) but i found him ... fake. I mean, i always had the impression his only aim is to be a hero, it's so superficial.
Abnur is totally the opposite. He doesn't care what people think of him but all his actions are for the good of the Empire (and for repairing his mistakes in Elsweyr).
Same that's why I sacrificed sai.
Although the end of elswyer hinted that he might not be dead.
In the greymoor expansion there is an imperial time traveler going by the name of Thaddeus Cosma, he says he knows who we are then says wait what year is it then says not to say as there are enough temporal instability in the area.
Thaddeus' face looks exactly like Abnars.
Yes, I noticed that as well, I'm certain it was him.
No spoilers, but look for the Vanos siblings to need your help yet again!
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