They should make it so vampire abilties reduces Vampire Stages and Flip the Bloody Mara's Around.

Thevampirenight

Old Vampirism, Stages lasted 6 hours, every use of a vampire ability decreased the timer by 30 minutes. So each time you used an ability your vampirism become stronger and you became thirstier. This mechanic needs to come back it really does and instead of increasing using an vampire ability so many times should reduce the stage.
The Purifyinbg mara should when drank take you back to stage one and it should be given the health regen effect. While Corrupted bloody mara increases your vampire stage by one. So I would like to see them flip these around.
Here is the reason, why.
Purifying bloody mara is the one that decreases your vampire stage now. However it still decreases it by one stage. That means if I want to go feeding and then lower back to one very quickly. Because I don't like stage one and maybe want to make it seem like my character is fully looking fed at stage one. Its going to waste the mara each time its done. However by doing this I can just drink one and bam stage one. Also the health recovery should be put on this one because of the stage four weakness basically stunting any form of Health Regen making it useless on the corrupted Bloody Mara for a Vampire.
So is there anyone else that thinks this should be done?
The thing is I've seen players asking how to reduce your vampire stage the only way currently is to wait it out or drink a few purifying bloody mara's.
There will be a furnishing that will do it but I do think there needs to be more then one option. There needs to be a way to reduce it outside of Bloody Mara and the new furnishing.

bmnoble

No I am glad that using the vampire ability's don't lower the stage.

Agree about the drinks though.

Hexi

Considering that one of the abilities is a spammable, this is an incredibly stupid idea. Abilities should never have affected stages in the first place, it makes 0 sense.

Thevampirenight

Hexi wrote: »

Considering that one of the abilities is a spammable, this is an incredibly stupid idea. Abilities should never have affected stages in the first place, it makes 0 sense.

They don't need to do it with the spam able but abilties like mist form, Vampiric Drain, and Hypnotic Gaze.

navystylz_ESO

Vampires are already currently questionable with the gain vs. many penalties and increased costs it has. In addition to these, the several quality of life changes that have to be dealt with; healing after traversing zones from stubbing toes, having to do the NPC work around at stage 4.

And it's already subpar being stage 4, just to have all the penalties even worse and the vampire abilities still cost more than most skills in the game since the nerf. We really don't need anything else just for the RP poos and giggles.

Thevampirenight

navystylz_ESO wrote: »

Vampires are already currently questionable with the gain vs. many penalties and increased costs it has. In addition to these, the several quality of life changes that have to be dealt with; healing after traversing zones from stubbing toes, having to do the NPC work around at stage 4.

And it's already subpar being stage 4, just to have all the penalties even worse and the vampire abilities still cost more than most skills in the game since the nerf. We really don't need anything else just for the RP poos and giggles.

Well I'm sure the pvers would love to play as a vampire not just us roleplayers and yes that is exactly why they should do this. Because the stage four benefits are not as great and its more of a burden however if they did this then at times people can go around invisible do their things and then get back down to a lower level of vampirism. There needs to be a way for the vampire to lower stages faster. Because the only methods is the bloodly mara right now and the furnishing which will likely cost 3000 crowns crowns to get. Feeding was once the way to reduce it but since its not now there has to be more options for vampire players. Since the only reliable way to do it is through purified bloody mara.

Opalblade

Unless we also get some way to feed while in combat, having vampire abilities reduce vampire stage would get pretty annoying imo.

idk

Hexi wrote: »

Considering that one of the abilities is a spammable, this is an incredibly stupid idea. Abilities should never have affected stages in the first place, it makes 0 sense.

I agree that with one ability being a spammable that having it affect our level is no longer a good idea.

Having some abilities affect our level and others not affect our level does not make sense either.

Gilvoth

nah, its fine as it is.
leave it alone.

Thevampirenight

Before the abilities could increase vampire stage. Now they should lower it now I know it can be annoying but it was annoying when it lowered vampire stages when you wanted to stay stage one and then use vampire abilties. But people liked it because they can get to stage four faster. Now they should have that mechanic for decreasing back to stage one.

Here is the thing vampirism stages should work like batteries. Higher stage means fully charged. Lower stage means not charged up. Using vampire abilties over time decreases the charge.
Feeding increases the charge. Feeding should be required to maintain vampirism passives and reduce vampire ability cost and it should be a active part of the vampiric life style.
Now what they can do is increase the stage timer back to 6 hours. That means you can use a vampire ability 12 times. Before it goes down to stage three from stage four. However if they keep it at four then you can use it 8 times per stage.

It makes perfect sense. Now I can see Eviscerate being excluded but all other vampire abilties should be tied to that mechanic. There is a Price for being a vampire and if you want to maintain its power you have to feed. It shouldn't be a cake walk but nor should it be a hurdle for new players trying to find out how to make the stages go down faster.

Vampirism should have to be maintained by feeding for power and it needs to be casual friendly new player friendly.

YandereGirlfriend

How about these drinks get the Pack Leader Bone Broth treatment and give a modest cost reduction to vampire abilities?

That would be interesting and would give people more of a reason to use them over Sugar Skulls in PvP.

Thevampirenight

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

How about these drinks get the Pack Leader Bone Broth treatment and give a modest cost reduction to vampire abilities?

That would be interesting and would give people more of a reason to use them over Sugar Skulls in PvP.

They could do that for the purifying Bloody Mara.