Anyone able to explain shields? My values are the same on the mainland but different in Cyro...

ck37090

So my Hardened ward is 12407 and Dampen magic is 12407 on the mainland. I enter Cyro I have a 10075 tip on my Hardened and 7315 on my Dampen. The Hardened goes off at 10075 and the Dampen is 9510 (even tho the tip is 7315). Anyone able to explain this? I know PvP reduces the effect, but why do they go from the same tip to different ones, aren't they affected by the same stats/CP? Second why in Cyro does my harden have a 7315 tip but goes off for 9510? Anywhere else the go off for the tip value (and even in Cyro but Hardened goes off for what the tip is (10075). Thanks in advance.

robpr

Shields scales off spell power and max magicka, but get capped by % of max hp. You have more max hp on Cyro than in overland
Then shields are reduced in size by Battle Spirit.

ck37090

robpr wrote: »

Shields scales off spell power and max magicka, but get capped by % of max hp. You have more max hp on Cyro than in overland
Then shields are reduced in size by Battle Spirit.

Yes, I understand that...what I don't understand is why both have a 12407 tip on mainland but have different tips in Cyro...they both should be effected equally, right, I expected them to still have the same tip in Cyro, but my Hardened is bigger...also, I don't understand why they all go off for the tip value in both Cyro and mainland except for the Dampened which has a 7315 tip in CYro, but goes off for 9510.

Rianai

Your shields are health capped in PvE (cap is the same for both). They are not capped in PvP, because battle spirit is applied first, so both can reach their full value based on your max. magicka (shields do not scale with spell dmg @robpr) which is slightly higher for Hardened Ward. Dampen tooltip is bugged and doesn't show the additional shield size gained per light armor piece.

ck37090

Rianai wrote: »

Your shields are health capped in PvE (cap is the same for both). They are not capped in PvP, because battle spirit is applied first, so both can reach their full value based on your max. magicka (shields do not scale with spell dmg @robpr) which is slightly higher for Hardened Ward. Dampen tooltip is bugged and doesn't show the additional shield size gained per light armor piece.

Thank you very much for the explanation. Makes perfect sense now...so actually Dampened would have the higher tool tip if I were wearing 7 light.

FirmamentOfStars

As rianai said shields are always capped by your health pool. Depending on the morph both shields can either reach 50 or 60% of your health pool. I assume your health is around 20k in PvE, therefore both shields can maximally reach 60% or like 12kish shield value there. Originally shields scale with max magicka and hardened ward scales better with it that dampen magicka, therefore could reach higher values if not capped. Since you overshoot the cap anyway in PvE both shields reach the same value. In PvP the shield size first gets halfed and then capped (thx to the 50% reduction reaching the cap is almost impossible or not desirable). Due to the better scaling off max magicka hardened ward reaches a higher size in PvP than dampen. Both finally able to max out (still halfed by battlespirit) shows, that one scales better.