DW needs viable active abilities for PvP

GeorgeBlack

There is no reason to use DW in PvP at all, everybody rocks 2h frontbar SnB backbar.

Kadoin

I don't think so.

Said from a DW-Bow user in PvP.

Knightpanther

From my experience DW is actually more effective than 2 hand, i can always see those attacks coming, DW is a pain in the arse to counter.

Be Safe

biminirwb17_ESO

No everybody does not.

Eldartar

I think you may be wrong, Not Everyone does. I have rocked a DW+Bow build for over 5yrs! wouldn't change it either

finehair

Dual wield is very viable in pvp. You have a very good if not the best aoe burst when using dawnbreaker+whirling blades combo. Blade cloak is also a must for major evasion if you are not using medium armor. Also you get more base damage than 2handed. I'm not saying 2 handed is bad or dual wield is better. DW has its uses, and that passively build in executes are really good.
Also, you can spam whirling blades in prime time and spin2win, but you can't cast a single dizzying swing because of the insane lag and desyncs. That's why i've changed to DW.
Edit; it could use a better ultimate though, that thing is pretty much useless in both pvp and pve.

Ratzkifal

Check this out.
EDIT: Nvm! I found out they last-minute nerfed that set too, just like BRP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc9l9e6S0TQ

ne.ga.kurai_ESO

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Check this out.
EDIT: Nvm! I found out they last-minute nerfed that set too, just like BRP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc9l9e6S0TQ

I told him in a comment on YT I tested Twin Slashes to hit 28% harder than Surprise Attack on PTS. That's why he made that video. They lowered the damage on the Master's proc by 28% last minute. I knew that was too good to be true.

Sun7dance

Knightpanther wrote: »

From my experience DW is actually more effective than 2 hand, i can always see those attacks coming, DW is a pain in the arse to counter.

Be Safe

And why is that the case?
Just because DW has better skills for laggy and asynchronous fights.

For example whirling blades, it always hits (except with 2 damage glyphs), doesn't need target focus and it is a 360° AoE Finisher. Very simple answer!

Maybe it could change now a litte bit, coz of the new Master 2h.

xXMeowMeowXx

There are many reasons to use DW. The ultimate is blah....

I mean 2h + SnB for a dizzy spam Stmdk gotcha.... You can apply that to others that you want to put that with.

Just because combat got homogenized, doesn’t mean dw is not viable. It just means that peeps got lazy in their theory crafting and playstyles.

OlumoGarbag

Dw does definetly performs worse then 2H espacially in solo. There are only some exception, when paired with cheese proc sets.

But dualwield lacks an stun that not every class can provide. While 2h provides a stun with its spammable you need to make one more space for fg stun on dualwield.

If you want major brutality on dw you need to run a semi useless gaplcloser or a semi useless over expensive spammable.

Over all dualwield can be very nice for XvX situations. But in 1vX 2h is and was king, with bow, dw and snb front being far behind.

Nemesis7884

I think the flying dagger skill and one of the coats could use some rework....flying daggers has been reworked but is still very meh... and if you rework it again why not change one of the morphs into throwing axes...lets be honest, throwing axes is way more awesome than throwing daggers...