bg put duo and solo queue together

Noctus

i think most ppl play with 1 friend or as a couple casually they shouldnt be thrown in with the 4 man premade groups. best solution would be to have seperate premade queue and solo+duo queue. if u are 3 ppl a 4th guy is not so hard to find.

Anyron

Bg queue system was changed because of premades. Random group just cannot be competitive against grouped friends with voice chat and with defined roles in group. I think they will not change it back.

It could let 2 people together in group but i think there isnt big difference (to old system) if it let 3.
They could make another sort of BGs with premades queue, but you could wait decades until you get another groups near your mmr.

Better playing solo than not at all

LucyferLightbringer

On a side note, why does this mmr stuff even exist? Rewards are always the same, I dont get rewarded more for fighting more skilled players. It should all be random.

relentless_turnip

I keep hearing this put duo's in the solo queue.. nah... Have a solo queue and a group queue, 2 good players versus 1 is too big an advantage. I am happy solo queuing, but totally get why people want to BG with friends. I think if that is the case regardless of your group size you should be queued in a group queue. As any form of team work versus someone on their own isn't remotely fair.

TheCaptainJosh

mmr exists to try and put you in matches with other players who are in your same skill bracket. Without it, someone who is statistically bad at the game could face off against another player who routinely finishes at the top of the leaderboards.

At least this is how mmr is supposed to work in theory, whether or not it actually does it's job in eso is another topic

Lady_Linux

If you go to Vvardenfell to do your crafting, you here the lady with the orc say "i cant wait to see who i get grouped with next." or something like that right after the orc says "I'm ready for the battlegrounds now." so clearly it was the devs intention from the start that it would be random queuing for solo play and i am glad it is solo play queuing as i dont want to spend hours trying to get the daily bonus when i do play it. I hope it never changes. Sorry for everyone who thought it was neato to queue with buds and dominate everyone...but that is what cry-o-pickle and imperial city are for..

mav1234

Lady_Linux wrote: »

If you go to Vvardenfell to do your crafting, you here the lady with the orc say "i cant wait to see who i get grouped with next." or something like that right after the orc says "I'm ready for the battlegrounds now." so clearly it was the devs intention from the start that it would be random queuing for solo play and i am glad it is solo play queuing as i dont want to spend hours trying to get the daily bonus when i do play it. I hope it never changes. Sorry for everyone who thought it was neato to queue with buds and dominate everyone...but that is what cry-o-pickle and imperial city are for..

is that why one of their release post for Battlegrounds announcement specifically says to gather your companions and join up to Battlegrounds?

their intention all along was for friends to queue together... it was not to have it be solo all along, that is a request from the community in response to dwindling populations in bgs.

Hotdog_23

Two separates queues for group and solo would be the idea solution but for whatever reason ZOS refuses to do it. Personally, if you can’t or want to do both then solo is the far better option between the two.

Taleof2Cities

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

Two separates queues for group and solo would be the idea solution but for whatever reason ZOS refuses to do it. Personally, if you can’t or want to do both then solo is the far better option between the two.

You can't have separate queues @Hotdog_23 ... due to the increased time it would take on both sides (both solo and group).

The reason ZOS refuses to do it is right above your post in the thread, here. Because of the overwhelming complaints about pre-mades versus solos.

drakthir

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

Two separates queues for group and solo would be the idea solution but for whatever reason ZOS refuses to do it. Personally, if you can’t or want to do both then solo is the far better option between the two.

You can't have separate queues @Hotdog_23 ... due to the increased time it would take on both sides (both solo and group).

The reason ZOS refuses to do it is right above your post in the thread, here. Because of the overwhelming complaints about pre-mades versus solos.

Solo queue time would be fine it's only the premade queue which will have issues which will only get worse as your and your premade groups MMR gets higher.
Many people have said they'd be fine with longer queue times on a group queue as long as it meant they can play with friends.
You can have seperate queues and im not sure that they have refused to do it, they said themselves this is test.

Rake

no

Tandor

drakthir wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

Two separates queues for group and solo would be the idea solution but for whatever reason ZOS refuses to do it. Personally, if you can’t or want to do both then solo is the far better option between the two.

You can't have separate queues @Hotdog_23 ... due to the increased time it would take on both sides (both solo and group).

The reason ZOS refuses to do it is right above your post in the thread, here. Because of the overwhelming complaints about pre-mades versus solos.

Solo queue time would be fine it's only the premade queue which will have issues which will only get worse as your and your premade groups MMR gets higher.
Many people have said they'd be fine with longer queue times on a group queue as long as it meant they can play with friends.
You can have seperate queues and im not sure that they have refused to do it, they said themselves this is test.

They were pretty clear on it a couple of days ago.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6771934#Comment_6771934

Foto1

duets should be in a separate lineup. no other way

Taleof2Cities

drakthir wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

Two separates queues for group and solo would be the idea solution but for whatever reason ZOS refuses to do it. Personally, if you can’t or want to do both then solo is the far better option between the two.

You can't have separate queues @Hotdog_23 ... due to the increased time it would take on both sides (both solo and group).

The reason ZOS refuses to do it is right above your post in the thread, here. Because of the overwhelming complaints about pre-mades versus solos.

Solo queue time would be fine it's only the premade queue which will have issues which will only get worse as your and your premade groups MMR gets higher.
Many people have said they'd be fine with longer queue times on a group queue as long as it meant they can play with friends.
You can have seperate queues and im not sure that they have refused to do it, they said themselves this is test.

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote on May 20th:

Hey all,

At this time, there are no immediate plans to reintroduce group queuing for PvP Battlegrounds in ESO. We are focusing on game performance improvements, and monitoring PvP Battlegrounds activity and feedback. If we do consider reintroducing group queueing for PvP Battlegrounds in the future, we’ll let everyone know.

xXMeowMeowXx

Nah....

One queue for solo players

One queue for groups (pre-mades)

Keep them separate to make everyone happy. This would also be more fun and fit how ESO usually works which is more options.

The funny thing is, that I usually end up with some of the same players three or more times in a row.

Deathlord92

2 good players on mic v 1 player with a bunch of randoms is still completely unfair duo should be with pre made groups imo. I really love playing bgs but I really don’t want to go back to every game being a complete sweat fest I don’t know if sbmm is in eso but I do not lie when I say before bgs became solo only I had pre mades every game it’s not fun.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Sorry, disagree.

While I desperately want to see a group-only queue, like so many others here, I am also very happy that solo-BG players are guaranteed to play against other solo-BG players.

Given the choice of only one, I would choose solo-BG every time.

Qbiken

Soll queue only is a meme. It's even more of a pug stomp fest than it was before. Every game is like 2-3 pre high mmr players competing on who can kill the in experienced players the fastest.

ZOS needs to fix the mmr system, which is the main cause of all issues BG's have atm. But limiting player's options on how to pvp isn't the way.

And no, I don't enjoy pug stomping and no me wanting group queue is not an excuse to face roll non premade groups. Would rather play a sweaty 4v4v4 than solo queue and go 20+ kills in every game. So don't even try to pull that one on me.

TequilaFire

Yep it is so much easier to 1v8 now that there are no organized premades, oh wait...

Deathlord92

relentless_turnip wrote: »

I keep hearing this put duo's in the solo queue.. nah... Have a solo queue and a group queue, 2 good players versus 1 is too big an advantage. I am happy solo queuing, but totally get why people want to BG with friends. I think if that is the case regardless of your group size you should be queued in a group queue. As any form of team work versus someone on their own isn't remotely fair.

I completely agree with you.