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Balanced Khajiit DragonKnight

DarkLordLegion
Before I will post this. I am saying in Respectful Manor. There is nothing wrong with your style: Multiple Characters and their roles. Plus the hybrid of Stamina and Magicka Damage. 25k Health, or 25k DPS (Stamina or Magicka), or hight amount of healing. For me it is too much of high price.


Here is my information for my Khajiit Dragonknight.....
Ardent Flame: DOT and CC
Dragonic Power: AOE and TANK
Earthen Heart: TANK and CC

Ardent:
Level 2 Combustion, Warmth, Searing Heat, World in Ruin
Dragonic:
Level 2 Iron Skin, Burning Heart, Elder Dragon, Scaled Armor
Earthen:
Level 2 Eternal Mountain, Battle Roar, Mountain's Blessing, Helping Hands.

Khajiit: Warrior/Rare Mage (Acrobat)
Increases your Health Recovery by 100 and your Stamina and Magicka Recovery by 85.
Increase your Maximum Health, Magicka, and Stamina by 825.
Increases your Critical Damage and Critical Healing by 10%. Decreases your detection radius in Stealth by 3 meters.

Heavy Armor (Tank) [But for my case: Strong Armor for Raid]
Level 3: Resolve
Level 2 Constitution
Level 2 Juggernaut
Level 2 Revitalize
Level 2 Rapid Mending

Increases your Health Recovery by 4% for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped. You restore 108 Magicka and Stamina when you take damage for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Increases your Max Health by 2% for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
(WHEN 5 OR MORE PIECES OF HEAVY ARMOR ARE EQUIPPED) Increases the Magicka or Stamina your Heavy Attacks restore by 25%.
(WHEN 5 OR MORE PIECES OF HEAVY ARMOR ARE EQUIPPED) Increases your healing received by 8%.

Bone: Thief

Jewelry Set:
Necklace: Shacklebreaker. Protective trait. Health Recovery Gyphic
Ring: Shacklebreaker. Infused. Spell Damage (one ring) and Weapon Damage (another ring)
Helmet: Hist Bark. Divines. Multi-Effect
Chest: Shacklebreaker. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
Shoulder: Hist Bark.Impenetrable. Multi-Effect
Gloves: Vampire’s Kiss. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
Belt: Shacklebreaker. Divines. Multi-Effect
Pants: Vampire’s Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect
Boots: Vampire Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect

Is there anything wrong or missing out of the jewelry set and combination of two eso sets? I do believe that these items can be found on: Tank, Stamina Dealer, Magicka Dealer, and Healer.

Here is a list of the skill bars
First five Skills plus Ultimate:
First spot
Restore Staff (Radiating Regeneration or Force Siphon {Primary Weapon})
Level 1: Restoration Expert
Level 1: Absorb
Level 1: Restoration Master
Draw Essence
Molten Armaments
Hardened Armor
Introspection
Level 1 Spell Orb
Ferocious Leap

Second five Skills plus Ultimate
first spot (changing of the secondary weapon)
Two hand weapon (Reverse)
Level 1: Heavy Weapons
Level 1: Balanced Blade
Level 1: Battle Rush
Dual Weapon (Steel Tornado)
Level 1 Controlled Furry
Level 1 Twin Blade and Blunt
Bow (Lethal Arrow)
Level 1 long Shot
Level 1 Accuracy
Level 1 Ranger
Destruction Staff (Force Pulse)
Level 1 Tri Focus
Level 1 Penetrating Magic
Level 1 Ancient Knowledge
Level 1 Destruction Expert

First spot plus second spot
One hand weapon and Shield (Pierce Armor or Heroic Slash with Shield Assault)
Level 1 Fortress
Level 1 Deadly Bash
Consuming Trap
Cauterize
Expert Hunter (fighter Guild)
Intimidating Presence
Level 3 Slayer
Level 3 Banish the Wicked
Skilled Tracker
Bounty Hunter
Shifting Standard

I did not add my weapons. Due to the fact that the weapons are coming from other eso sets. So if I did list my weapons. It will be like this...
Restore Staff of Twilight. Decieve. add 1051 Maximum Health
Axe of Mechanical Acuity. Sharpened. add 112 Weapon Damage.

Yes, all this is for a single ESO Character. Yes, I am a Champion lvl 50-498 player. And if I did a role. It would be like 'BattleGuard'

Roles are nothing but positions. It's the builds that gets you through the battles. I am a Scavanger. I am a Hunter. I am a Warrior. Battle Across Tameriel shall fall.


  • MarzAttakz
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    I'm not sure why you've gone with Vampire's Kiss + Hist Bark though, pairing something like Ancient Dragonguard (https://eso-sets.com/set/ancient-dragonguard) or Vastarie's (https://eso-sets.com/set/vastaries-tutelage) with Shacklebreaker seems more hybrid to me, were your goals capped mitigation and high health + health regen?

    On paper it feels too health focused unless going for a tank role.

    Edited to add:

    If I was building what you're going for, I would try to consolidate my base 5 piece set (Shacklebreaker) to armor slots (chest, hands, waist, legs, boots) so I could craft 3 versions of the set: heavy for tanking, medium for stam dps, light for mag dps + healer.

    That way you're more flexible and still have space for Monster set two piece bonus, and another 5 piece bonus from jewels + weapons if you want.
    Edited by MarzAttakz on May 18, 2020 11:49AM
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    Nhynyth | Khajiit | MagDK
    Ghwynyth | Dunmer | MagSorc
    Loots-All-Urns | Argonian | MagDen
    Shades-Of-Gray | Argonian | StamDK
    Or'Chastration | Orc | StamSorc
    Little Miss Famished | Orc | StamCro
    Fhane Sharog | Orc | StamDen
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  • Chrlynsch
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    I'm not really sure what is going on here...
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  • WoppaBoem
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    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what is going on here...

    I have the same feeling after a couple of paragraphs, I am confused.... :)
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  • MarzAttakz
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    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what is going on here...
    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what is going on here...

    I have the same feeling after a couple of paragraphs, I am confused.... :)

    If I understand correctly the OP has outlined their take on a single hybrid approach to fulfilling all roles with a single character without needing to respec attributes (and morphs?)...

    Gotta admire the amount of thought that's gone into it.
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    Lhylyth | Breton | MagPlar
    Nhynyth | Khajiit | MagDK
    Ghwynyth | Dunmer | MagSorc
    Loots-All-Urns | Argonian | MagDen
    Shades-Of-Gray | Argonian | StamDK
    Or'Chastration | Orc | StamSorc
    Little Miss Famished | Orc | StamCro
    Fhane Sharog | Orc | StamDen
    Dead Moons Rising | Khajiit | StamBlade
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  • Raisin
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    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    I'm not sure why you've gone with Vampire's Kiss + Hist Bark though, pairing something like Ancient Dragonguard (https://eso-sets.com/set/ancient-dragonguard) or Vastarie's (https://eso-sets.com/set/vastaries-tutelage) with Shacklebreaker seems more hybrid to me, were your goals capped mitigation and high health + health regen?

    On paper it feels too health focused unless going for a tank role.

    Edited to add:

    If I was building what you're going for, I would try to consolidate my base 5 piece set (Shacklebreaker) to armor slots (chest, hands, waist, legs, boots) so I could craft 3 versions of the set: heavy for tanking, medium for stam dps, light for mag dps + healer.

    That way you're more flexible and still have space for Monster set two piece bonus, and another 5 piece bonus from jewels + weapons if you want.

    You're gonna regret offering advice. :D
  • MarzAttakz
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    Raisin wrote: »
    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    I'm not sure why you've gone with Vampire's Kiss + Hist Bark though, pairing something like Ancient Dragonguard (https://eso-sets.com/set/ancient-dragonguard) or Vastarie's (https://eso-sets.com/set/vastaries-tutelage) with Shacklebreaker seems more hybrid to me, were your goals capped mitigation and high health + health regen?

    On paper it feels too health focused unless going for a tank role.

    Edited to add:

    If I was building what you're going for, I would try to consolidate my base 5 piece set (Shacklebreaker) to armor slots (chest, hands, waist, legs, boots) so I could craft 3 versions of the set: heavy for tanking, medium for stam dps, light for mag dps + healer.

    That way you're more flexible and still have space for Monster set two piece bonus, and another 5 piece bonus from jewels + weapons if you want.

    You're gonna regret offering advice. :D

    :p It's a concept I've been pondering for a while myself, just never fully fleshed it out. Not having 9 traits across the board means dipping into things like Pelinial's and Twice-Born Star isn't feasible without begging for crafting help.
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    Lhylyth | Breton | MagPlar
    Nhynyth | Khajiit | MagDK
    Ghwynyth | Dunmer | MagSorc
    Loots-All-Urns | Argonian | MagDen
    Shades-Of-Gray | Argonian | StamDK
    Or'Chastration | Orc | StamSorc
    Little Miss Famished | Orc | StamCro
    Fhane Sharog | Orc | StamDen
    Dead Moons Rising | Khajiit | StamBlade
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  • Everest_Lionheart
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    I tried the balanced thing out of the gate on a Khajiit warden myself. Warden has the toolkit to do all of the things and the Khajiit racial passives do boost all of the line but trying to be a jack of all trades really handcuffs you in this game. Once I decided to specialize into just stamina I found the game easier. I do need to make sure I always have food running though where on the hybrid I could manage 2 rss pools better than the one.
  • zvavi
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    For hybrids I would probably like mechanical acuity. especially since heavy armor forces you to low crit, and mechanical is stronger the less crit you have. Then again, I never tried specialising in hybrid... Maybe azurablight on weapons+jewelry combined with heavy solad's embrace on body and thurvakun for icing? Idk. How much can I move away from hybrid idea for it to be hybrid?
  • Moonsorrow
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    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what is going on here...

    Yes.

    Invigorating trait not often see recommended, thus it confused me in some extra ways..

    OP, if you planned for tanking.. Allthough Vampire`s Kiss is a bit imaginative set for that, i suggest Sturdy trait instead of Invigorating atleast.

    But, if for PVP or all round solo playing.. Hmm, well atleast it is something different..
  • DarkLordLegion
    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    I'm not sure why you've gone with Vampire's Kiss + Hist Bark though, pairing something like Ancient Dragonguard (https://eso-sets.com/set/ancient-dragonguard) or Vastarie's (https://eso-sets.com/set/vastaries-tutelage) with Shacklebreaker seems more hybrid to me, were your goals capped mitigation and high health + health regen?

    On paper it feels too health focused unless going for a tank role.

    You’re not sure why? One, Hist Bark offers 17-1487 Armor. That amount of armor gets to be added together with the rest of the equipment, which offers Armor. The final amount of armor plays a part of where the incoming attacks counter-against the final amount of armor. The outcome will determined the amount of value of the health being lost in battle. Secondly, Vampire’s Kiss puts 14-1206 Maximum Health into the Health Pool. Third, the Health Recovery, it will recovery any health that has been lost in battle. Which will automatically recovery, once a player sets outside the view of the target’s range of attack.
    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what is going on here...
    WoppaBoem wrote: »
    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what is going on here...
    I have the same feeling after a couple of paragraphs, I am confused.... :)

    Confused? It’s a layout of a character. It’s a build setup.
    MarzAttakz wrote: »

    If I understand correctly the OP has outlined their take on a single hybrid approach to fulfilling all roles with a single character without needing to respec attributes (and morphs?)...

    Gotta admire the amount of thought that's gone into it.

    It’s a single character. If you think it is fulfilling all the roles. You forgot one thing, there is not enough skill points to be able to fulfill all the requirements. Yes, without the need to respec. There is always going to be a trade-off.
    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    If I was building what you're going for, I would try to consolidate my base 5 piece set (Shacklebreaker) to armor slots (chest, hands, waist, legs, boots) so I could craft 3 versions of the set: heavy for tanking, medium for stam dps, light for mag dps + healer.

    That way you're more flexible and still have space for Monster set two piece bonus, and another 5 piece bonus from jewels + weapons if you want.

    3 versions of the set vs. 1 set. That’s fifteen pieces, while I am using five pieces. That’s a lot of equipment changing to take place. The thing about that, I am more flexible by not changing my jewelry sets, nor my Shacklebreaker nor my Hist Bark, nor my Vampire’s Kiss equipment. It will only need to take two things to change: my secondary weapon and its skill.
    Raisin wrote: »
    You're gonna regret offering advice. :D

    Actual, advice is always welcome.
    zvavi wrote: »
    For hybrids I would probably like mechanical acuity. especially since heavy armor forces you to low crit, and mechanical is stronger the less crit you have. Then again, I never tried specialising in hybrid... Maybe azurablight on weapons+jewelry combined with heavy on body and thurvakun for icing? Idk. How much can I move away from hybrid idea for it to be hybrid?

    Specializing in Hybrid? You don’t need to be a Specialist in order to use Hybrid. All you need to know is how you want to build your character. That’s all it will take.

    For those who are so eager to mention ‘role’. If I did one… Scavenger.Hunter.Warrior.

    I tried the balanced thing out of the gate on a Khajiit warden myself. Warden has the toolkit to do all of the things and the Khajiit racial passives do boost all of the line but trying to be a jack of all trades really handcuffs you in this game. Once I decided to specialize into just stamina I found the game easier. I do need to make sure I always have food running though where on the hybrid I could manage 2 rss pools better than the one.

    Anything can handcuff you in this game. It is always the choices that can get you out of the handcuff.

    Roles are nothing but positions. It's the builds that gets you through the battles. I am a Scavanger. I am a Hunter. I am a Warrior. Battle Across Tameriel shall fall.


  • MashmalloMan
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    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    I'm not sure why you've gone with Vampire's Kiss + Hist Bark though, pairing something like Ancient Dragonguard (https://eso-sets.com/set/ancient-dragonguard) or Vastarie's (https://eso-sets.com/set/vastaries-tutelage) with Shacklebreaker seems more hybrid to me, were your goals capped mitigation and high health + health regen?

    On paper it feels too health focused unless going for a tank role.

    You’re not sure why? One, Hist Bark offers 17-1487 Armor. That amount of armor gets to be added together with the rest of the equipment, which offers Armor. The final amount of armor plays a part of where the incoming attacks counter-against the final amount of armor. The outcome will determined the amount of value of the health being lost in battle. Secondly, Vampire’s Kiss puts 14-1206 Maximum Health into the Health Pool. Third, the Health Recovery, it will recovery any health that has been lost in battle. Which will automatically recovery, once a player sets outside the view of the target’s range of attack.

    Your explanation doesn't disprove their point. By going with 2 sets, you've wasted the first piece of 2 sets earning no bonus. You've effectively turned 5 pieces in to only 3 standard bonuses.

    You could instead use a full 5 piece set for 3 standard bonuses PLUS a 5 piece bonus which is usually equal to about 2.5 - 4 standard bonuses. Total being 5.5-7 vs your 3. There is better ways to do what your looking for.

    With your choice of 2 hist bark and 3 vampires kiss, you earn:
    1487 Armor
    129 Health Recovery
    1206 Maximum Health

    With something like Ancient Dragonguard you earn:
    Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    Adds 300 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage while your Health is above 50%. Adds 3460 Armor while your Health is 50% or less.

    Ancient Dragonguard is obviously stronger and covers both magicka and stamina like shacklebreaker, it even adds more than double the armor while 50% or below. It also includes the HP your looking for.

    On your first jewelry, instead of using an HP Regen Glyph, use a tri-regen Glyph. These were released with Greymoor. Instead of +169 hp Regen you will earn +84 HP, Stamina and Magicka regen. Combined total of +252 and every stat is something you need.

    If your seriously looking for something like the first 3 bonuses in a full 5 piece set... why wouldn't you just use a full 5 piece set of Hist Bark, it literally has the same bonuses except you also get Major Evasion when blocking. Vampires Kiss is completely pointless.

    2 items: Adds 1487 Armor
    3 items: Adds 129 Health Recovery
    4 items: Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    5 items: While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.

    Final thought, your weapon choice would be much better suited for Ability altering sets. You should look them up. Perfected versions now give 4/5th a standard stat bonus PLUS a unique effect.

    For example, you can use a Perfected Black Rose Prison Dual Wield set for +103 stamina regen and + 6% damage done and damage mitigation. You could use a Perfected Maelstrom Destruction staff for +1100 spell penetration and extra light/heavy attack damage to enemies in your wall of elements.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on May 31, 2020 1:25AM
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  • DarkLordLegion
    Your explanation doesn't disprove their point. By going with 2 sets, you've wasted the first piece of 2 sets earning no bonus. You've effectively turned 5 pieces in to only 3 standard bonuses.

    If you had actual read, you would have known that I am using three different eso sets, instead of using a single ESO set. Hist Bark, Vampire’s Kiss, and Shacklebreaker. You are claiming that I am just using two ESO set. It is actual: 129 Weapon Damage, 129 Spell Damage, 129 Stamina Recovery, 129 Magicka Recovery, 2000 Maximum Stamina, 2000 Maximum Magicka, 1487 Armor, 129 Health Recovery, and 1206 Maximum Health. It is not: 1487 Armor, 129 Health Recovery, 1206 Maximum Health.
    With something like Ancient Dragonguard you earn:
    Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    Adds 300 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage while your Health is above 50%. Adds 3460 Armor while your Health is 50% or less.

    Ancient Dragonguard is obviously stronger and covers both magicka and stamina like shacklebreaker, it even adds more than double the armor while 50% or below. It also includes the HP your looking for.

    The only thing that Ancient Dragonguard covers is the damage and critical. It does not cover Magicka and Stamina like Shacklebreaker, especially when Maximum Stamina and Maximum Magicka are key factors.

    On your first jewelry, instead of using an HP Regen Glyph, use a tri-regen Glyph. These were released with Greymoor. Instead of +169 hp Regen you will earn +84 HP, Stamina and Magicka regen. Combined total of +252 and every stat is something you need.

    That will only work if you have Greymoor installed.

    If your seriously looking for something like the first 3 bonuses in a full 5 piece set... why wouldn't you just use a full 5 piece set of Hist Bark, it literally has the same bonuses except you also get Major Evasion when blocking. Vampires Kiss is completely pointless.

    2 items: Adds 1487 Armor
    3 items: Adds 129 Health Recovery
    4 items: Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    5 items: While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.

    Final thought, your weapon choice would be much better suited for Ability altering sets. You should look them up. Perfected versions now give 4/5th a standard stat bonus PLUS a unique effect.

    Look very close of where Hist Bark is placed in the set-up.

    Jewelry Set:
    Necklace: Shacklebreaker. Protective trait. Health Recovery Gyphic
    Ring: Shacklebreaker. Infused. Spell Damage (one ring) and Weapon Damage (another ring)
    Helmet: Hist Bark. Divines. Multi-Effect
    Chest: Shacklebreaker. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
    Shoulder: Hist Bark.Impenetrable. Multi-Effect
    Gloves: Vampire’s Kiss. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
    Belt: Shacklebreaker. Divines. Multi-Effect
    Pants: Vampire’s Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect
    Boots: Vampire Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect

    There is only two things or I would say a set in ESO that only fits right there. Because of those two things, complete Hist Bark Set is out of the question. Vampire’s Kiss: Maximum Health and Health Recovery can be found in Hist Bark, which means I don’t have to use Hist Bark for Maximum Health and Health Recovery, when I can find it in a different ESO set.

    Mentioning about my weapon choice? I didn’t list any types of weapons. Here is another point. You brought up Ancient Dragonguard set up. Well, I do not need to use Ancient Dragonguard, when I can find the same items in Ancient Dragonguard, in other ESO sets. When I said ‘other ESO sets’ I was including weapons as well.
    For example, you can use a Perfected Black Rose Prison Dual Wield set for +103 stamina regen and + 6% damage done and damage mitigation. You could use a Perfected Maelstrom Destruction staff for +1100 spell penetration and extra light/heavy attack damage to enemies in your wall of elements.

    You forgot to mention to gain these items. You need to create a 4 man battle team and other important information....
    About this Wall of Elements, how did you be able to come up with that, when I didn’t include Wall of Elements in my Destruction Staff skill line? Because I did posted in the beginning of wearing Heavy Armor Style and even mentioning of being a Dragonknight.



    Roles are nothing but positions. It's the builds that gets you through the battles. I am a Scavanger. I am a Hunter. I am a Warrior. Battle Across Tameriel shall fall.


  • MashmalloMan
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    Your explanation doesn't disprove their point. By going with 2 sets, you've wasted the first piece of 2 sets earning no bonus. You've effectively turned 5 pieces in to only 3 standard bonuses.

    If you had actual read, you would have known that I am using three different eso sets, instead of using a single ESO set. Hist Bark, Vampire’s Kiss, and Shacklebreaker. You are claiming that I am just using two ESO set. It is actual: 129 Weapon Damage, 129 Spell Damage, 129 Stamina Recovery, 129 Magicka Recovery, 2000 Maximum Stamina, 2000 Maximum Magicka, 1487 Armor, 129 Health Recovery, and 1206 Maximum Health. It is not: 1487 Armor, 129 Health Recovery, 1206 Maximum Health.

    I'll try to explain this one more time. Shacklebreaker was never in my comment, I was specifically talking about your decision to use 2 Hist Bark and 3 Vampire's Kiss.. I never once said to remove Shacklebreaker.

    This is your chosen equipment setup, crossed out Vampire Kiss for Hist Bark because thats how you should be building yourself:
    1. Neck: Shacklebreaker
    2. Ring: Shacklebreaker
    3. Ring: Shacklebreaker
    4. Chest: Shacklebreaker
    5. Belt: Shacklebreaker
    6. Gloves: Vampire’s Kiss Hist Bark
    7. Legs: Vampire’s Kiss Hist Bark
    8. Boots: Vampire’s Kiss Hist Bark
    9. Shoulder: Hist Bark
    10. Helmet: Hist Bark

    Do you see how you still have 5 pieces of Shacklebreaker? Notice how the first 3 bonuses of Hist Bark are identical to 2 Hist Bark + 3 Vampire's Kiss, except you also get a new bonus which gives Major Evasion while blocking by using 5 Hist Bark.

    Why do this:

    Hist Bark:
    (2 items) Adds 1487 Armor
    (3 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery
    (4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (5 items) While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.


    Vampire's Kiss:
    (2 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (4 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
    (5 items) When you kill an enemy, you heal for 5160 Health over 6 seconds.


    When you can do this:

    Hist Bark:
    (2 items) Adds 1487 Armor
    (3 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery
    (4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (5 items) While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.
    With something like Ancient Dragonguard you earn:
    Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    Adds 300 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage while your Health is above 50%. Adds 3460 Armor while your Health is 50% or less.

    Ancient Dragonguard is obviously stronger and covers both magicka and stamina like shacklebreaker, it even adds more than double the armor while 50% or below. It also includes the HP your looking for.

    The only thing that Ancient Dragonguard covers is the damage and critical. It does not cover Magicka and Stamina like Shacklebreaker, especially when Maximum Stamina and Maximum Magicka are key factors.

    I never said to switch Ancient Dragonguard for Shacklebreaker. I said to consider using Ancient Dragonguard over 2 Hist Bark and 3 Vampire's Kiss. If you don't like the set, so be it, but use 5 Hist Bark instead and look at Ancient Dragonguard under that new lense. It's like Shacklebreaker in that you get stats for 2 playstyles (weapon and spell) while also being a little more tanky (health/armor bonuses).
    On your first jewelry, instead of using an HP Regen Glyph, use a tri-regen Glyph. These were released with Greymoor. Instead of +169 hp Regen you will earn +84 HP, Stamina and Magicka regen. Combined total of +252 and every stat is something you need.

    That will only work if you have Greymoor installed.
    You can buy the Enchantments from guild traders, you don't need to own the DLC.
    If your seriously looking for something like the first 3 bonuses in a full 5 piece set... why wouldn't you just use a full 5 piece set of Hist Bark, it literally has the same bonuses except you also get Major Evasion when blocking. Vampires Kiss is completely pointless.

    2 items: Adds 1487 Armor
    3 items: Adds 129 Health Recovery
    4 items: Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    5 items: While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.

    Final thought, your weapon choice would be much better suited for Ability altering sets. You should look them up. Perfected versions now give 4/5th a standard stat bonus PLUS a unique effect.

    Look very close of where Hist Bark is placed in the set-up.

    Jewelry Set:
    Necklace: Shacklebreaker. Protective trait. Health Recovery Gyphic
    Ring: Shacklebreaker. Infused. Spell Damage (one ring) and Weapon Damage (another ring)
    Helmet: Hist Bark. Divines. Multi-Effect
    Chest: Shacklebreaker. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
    Shoulder: Hist Bark.Impenetrable. Multi-Effect
    Gloves: Vampire’s Kiss. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
    Belt: Shacklebreaker. Divines. Multi-Effect
    Pants: Vampire’s Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect
    Boots: Vampire Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect

    There is only two things or I would say a set in ESO that only fits right there. Because of those two things, complete Hist Bark Set is out of the question. Vampire’s Kiss: Maximum Health and Health Recovery can be found in Hist Bark, which means I don’t have to use Hist Bark for Maximum Health and Health Recovery, when I can find it in a different ESO set.

    Head/Shoulder, what's your point? Read the top of this comment for clarifcation again. Switch Vampire's Kiss to Hist Bark.
    Mentioning about my weapon choice? I didn’t list any types of weapons. Here is another point. You brought up Ancient Dragonguard set up. Well, I do not need to use Ancient Dragonguard, when I can find the same items in Ancient Dragonguard, in other ESO sets. When I said ‘other ESO sets’ I was including weapons as well.

    You listed 2 examples of weapons.. Axe of Mechanical Acuity for 129 Weapon Damage and Restoration Staff of Twilight for 1206 Maximum Health. Thus why I mentioned to take a look at the Ability Altering Weapons that can give stat bonuses AND a unique effect.
    For example, you can use a Perfected Black Rose Prison Dual Wield set for +103 stamina regen and + 6% damage done and damage mitigation. You could use a Perfected Maelstrom Destruction staff for +1100 spell penetration and extra light/heavy attack damage to enemies in your wall of elements.

    You forgot to mention to gain these items. You need to create a 4 man battle team and other important information....
    About this Wall of Elements, how did you be able to come up with that, when I didn’t include Wall of Elements in my Destruction Staff skill line? Because I did posted in the beginning of wearing Heavy Armor Style and even mentioning of being a Dragonknight.
    Why did I need to mention that you need to make a group for that arena, it's not suppose to be a secret? A google search is all it takes, my suggestion was to spark interest in you to do the research yourself. Maelstrom Arena is also a solo experience if thats really what you're getting at. If you don't want to farm them because you think it's too difficult, thats up to you, it's only a sugguestion to help max out your build without completely changing it.

    If you're not interested in Perfected versions, Normal imperfect versions are arguabley still stronger. There is 4 places you can get Ability Altering weapons, meaning 4/5 skills from every weapon skill line has a unique weapon attached to it. At this point it's up to you if any of those weapons look interesting to you. If not, you should research 3 piece sets like Agility and Endurance as well. They only come in weapon/jewelry, but they have stronger 2 piece set bonuses than typical 5 piece sets. Endurance for example, gives 1928 Max Health, while your Twilight Staff only gives 1206 Max Health.

    Also, why would being a DK or being in Heavy Armor prevent you from using Wall of Elements? If you're not aware, you should always aim to use a back bar ground based weapon aoe dot because they continuously proc back bar enchantments when you switch to front bar. This is why an infused weapon is so powerful for your back bar, no other weapon trait has as much power on your front bar. Most of them will not help you once you switch off the weapon it came from, only a few skills carry whatever stats you had on that bar instead of updating to what you have equipped. Infused on a weapon to reduce the cooldown and increase the power of it's enchantment always carries over.

    The available options are Wall of Elements (destruction staff), Volley (bow), Stampede (2h) or Blade Cloak (DW) to proc enchantments off cooldown. If you don't want to do that, thats entirely up to you, but once again, the suggestion was made to help you max out your build.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on June 7, 2020 1:14AM
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  • DarkLordLegion
    Your explanation doesn't disprove their point. By going with 2 sets, you've wasted the first piece of 2 sets earning no bonus. You've effectively turned 5 pieces in to only 3 standard bonuses.

    If you had actual read, you would have known that I am using three different eso sets, instead of using a single ESO set. Hist Bark, Vampire’s Kiss, and Shacklebreaker. You are claiming that I am just using two ESO set. It is actual: 129 Weapon Damage, 129 Spell Damage, 129 Stamina Recovery, 129 Magicka Recovery, 2000 Maximum Stamina, 2000 Maximum Magicka, 1487 Armor, 129 Health Recovery, and 1206 Maximum Health. It is not: 1487 Armor, 129 Health Recovery, 1206 Maximum Health.

    I'll try to explain this one more time. Shacklebreaker was never in my comment, I was specifically talking about your decision to use 2 Hist Bark and 3 Vampire's Kiss.. I never once said to remove Shacklebreaker.

    In order to fully know about the decision, you have to see the whole picture, instead of taking small sections out of it.
    This is your chosen equipment setup, crossed out Vampire Kiss for Hist Bark because thats how you should be building yourself:
    1. Neck: Shacklebreaker
    2. Ring: Shacklebreaker
    3. Ring: Shacklebreaker
    4. Chest: Shacklebreaker
    5. Belt: Shacklebreaker
    6. Gloves: Vampire’s Kiss Hist Bark
    7. Legs: Vampire’s Kiss Hist Bark
    8. Boots: Vampire’s Kiss Hist Bark
    9. Shoulder: Hist Bark
    10. Helmet: Hist Bark

    Do you see how you still have 5 pieces of Shacklebreaker? Notice how the first 3 bonuses of Hist Bark are identical to 2 Hist Bark + 3 Vampire's Kiss, except you also get a new bonus which gives Major Evasion while blocking by using 5 Hist Bark.

    Why do this:

    Hist Bark:
    (2 items) Adds 1487 Armor
    (3 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery
    (4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (5 items) While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.


    Vampire's Kiss:
    (2 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (4 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
    (5 items) When you kill an enemy, you heal for 5160 Health over 6 seconds.


    When you can do this:

    Hist Bark:
    (2 items) Adds 1487 Armor
    (3 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery
    (4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    (5 items) While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.


    What I am doing has nothing to do with the ‘Trigger Moves’. It has to do with Stamina, Magicka, and Health. So more Stamina, I have, the much longer Stamina base skills are able to be used. Just same as Magicka. Higher amount of Health, I have, the more longer I will stand in battles. In having Heavy Armor, the attacks against me will be reduce towards my health.




    With something like Ancient Dragonguard you earn:
    Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    Adds 300 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage while your Health is above 50%. Adds 3460 Armor while your Health is 50% or less.

    Ancient Dragonguard is obviously stronger and covers both magicka and stamina like shacklebreaker, it even adds more than double the armor while 50% or below. It also includes the HP your looking for.

    The only thing that Ancient Dragonguard covers is the damage and critical. It does not cover Magicka and Stamina like Shacklebreaker, especially when Maximum Stamina and Maximum Magicka are key factors.
    I never said to switch Ancient Dragonguard for Shacklebreaker. I said to consider using Ancient Dragonguard over 2 Hist Bark and 3 Vampire's Kiss. If you don't like the set, so be it, but use 5 Hist Bark instead and look at Ancient Dragonguard under that new lense. It's like Shacklebreaker in that you get stats for 2 playstyles (weapon and spell) while also being a little more tanky (health/armor bonuses).

    I didn’t say that you did. There’s nothing wrong with Comparing set-ups with one another. Comparing set-ups with one another is all about reducing the funding cost.




    On your first jewelry, instead of using an HP Regen Glyph, use a tri-regen Glyph. These were released with Greymoor. Instead of +169 hp Regen you will earn +84 HP, Stamina and Magicka regen. Combined total of +252 and every stat is something you need.

    That will only work if you have Greymoor installed.
    You can buy the Enchantments from guild traders, you don't need to own the DLC.

    It has nothing to do with ‘You don’t need to own the DLC’. You need to have Greymoor installed or downloaded, because there are other files involved.




    If your seriously looking for something like the first 3 bonuses in a full 5 piece set... why wouldn't you just use a full 5 piece set of Hist Bark, it literally has the same bonuses except you also get Major Evasion when blocking. Vampires Kiss is completely pointless.

    2 items: Adds 1487 Armor
    3 items: Adds 129 Health Recovery
    4 items: Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    5 items: While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%.

    Final thought, your weapon choice would be much better suited for Ability altering sets. You should look them up. Perfected versions now give 4/5th a standard stat bonus PLUS a unique effect.

    Look very close of where Hist Bark is placed in the set-up.

    Jewelry Set:
    Necklace: Shacklebreaker. Protective trait. Health Recovery Gyphic
    Ring: Shacklebreaker. Infused. Spell Damage (one ring) and Weapon Damage (another ring)
    Helmet: Hist Bark. Divines. Multi-Effect
    Chest: Shacklebreaker. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
    Shoulder: Hist Bark.Impenetrable. Multi-Effect
    Gloves: Vampire’s Kiss. Invigorating. Multi-Effect
    Belt: Shacklebreaker. Divines. Multi-Effect
    Pants: Vampire’s Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect
    Boots: Vampire Kiss. Reinforced. Multi-Effect

    There is only two things or I would say a set in ESO that only fits right there. Because of those two things, complete Hist Bark Set is out of the question. Vampire’s Kiss: Maximum Health and Health Recovery can be found in Hist Bark, which means I don’t have to use Hist Bark for Maximum Health and Health Recovery, when I can find it in a different ESO set.
    Head/Shoulder, what's your point? Read the top of this comment for clarifcation again. Switch Vampire's Kiss to Hist Bark.

    What’s my point? Hist Bark is placed in Helmet Slot and in Shoulder Slot. The exactly location of where another set has been designed to take the same spot. MONSTER SET. So because of that, Hist Bark (if going by set of 5) is reduce to three pieces. Therefore, Hist Bark’s bonus “While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%” is no good when you don’t have the full set up. You didn’t take into thought of Heavy Armor Style’s Restore Magicka and Stamina.

    Mentioning about my weapon choice? I didn’t list any types of weapons. Here is another point. You brought up Ancient Dragonguard set up. Well, I do not need to use Ancient Dragonguard, when I can find the same items in Ancient Dragonguard, in other ESO sets. When I said ‘other ESO sets’ I was including weapons as well.
    You listed 2 examples of weapons.. Axe of Mechanical Acuity for 129 Weapon Damage and Restoration Staff of Twilight for 1206 Maximum Health. Thus why I mentioned to take a look at the Ability Altering Weapons that can give stat bonuses AND a unique effect.


    Listing of these two items: Axe of Mechanical Acuity offering 129 Weapon Damage and Restoration Staff of Twlight offering 1206 Maximum Health; was two examples. There is difference between ‘The Weapons from the same Set’ and actual single weapon from another set. I have weapon damage from Shacklebreaker set, but also I have a weapon damage from Axe of Mechanical Acuity. Neither of the items are from the same set, because of that, the weapon damage is able to be increased. But if a weapon is from a same set, for an example: Shacklebreaker Set. The Weapon’s Weapon Damage is void, can’t do anything extra, due to the fact of already having a complete five piece set. Therefore, the set is maximum of five items.

    For example, you can use a Perfected Black Rose Prison Dual Wield set for +103 stamina regen and + 6% damage done and damage mitigation. You could use a Perfected Maelstrom Destruction staff for +1100 spell penetration and extra light/heavy attack damage to enemies in your wall of elements.

    You forgot to mention to gain these items. You need to create a 4 man battle team and other important information....
    About this Wall of Elements, how did you be able to come up with that, when I didn’t include Wall of Elements in my Destruction Staff skill line? Because I did posted in the beginning of wearing Heavy Armor Style and even mentioning of being a Dragonknight.

    Why did I need to mention that you need to make a group for that arena, it's not suppose to be a secret? A google search is all it takes, my suggestion was to spark interest in you to do the research yourself. Maelstrom Arena is also a solo experience if thats really what you're getting at. If you don't want to farm them because you think it's too difficult, thats up to you, it's only a sugguestion to help max out your build without completely changing it.

    If you're not interested in Perfected versions, Normal imperfect versions are arguabley still stronger. There is 4 places you can get Ability Altering weapons, meaning 4/5 skills from every weapon skill line has a unique weapon attached to it. At this point it's up to you if any of those weapons look interesting to you. If not, you should research 3 piece sets like Agility and Endurance as well. They only come in weapon/jewelry, but they have stronger 2 piece set bonuses than typical 5 piece sets. Endurance for example, gives 1928 Max Health, while your Twilight Staff only gives 1206 Max Health.

    Also, why would being a DK or being in Heavy Armor prevent you from using Wall of Elements? If you're not aware, you should always aim to use a back bar ground based weapon aoe dot because they continuously proc back bar enchantments when you switch to front bar. This is why an infused weapon is so powerful for your back bar, no other weapon trait has as much power on your front bar. Most of them will not help you once you switch off the weapon it came from, only a few skills carry whatever stats you had on that bar instead of updating to what you have equipped. Infused on a weapon to reduce the cooldown and increase the power of it's enchantment always carries over.

    The available options are Wall of Elements (destruction staff), Volley (bow), Stampede (2h) or Blade Cloak (DW) to proc enchantments off cooldown. If you don't want to do that, thats entirely up to you, but once again, the suggestion was made to help you max out your build. [/quote]


    What's in between the
    (dashes), is nothing but related to the ‘Roles’ and ‘Groups.’ These Abilities Altering Weapons, in my term are nothing but ‘Trigger Weapons.’ In order to be able to use those, you have to have certain skill slotted in the action bar. They do not work with every single skills. Just like how these Armor set’s additional last bonus, nothing but a ‘Trigger Move.’.

    The Jewelry Set: Agility, Endurance, and Willpower. They only offer to increase either: Stamina, Magicka, and Health. Endurance for Tank, Willpower for Magicka and Healing, Agility for Damage Dealing.

    Max out my build? Only way to max out a build is, if you are playing a certain ‘Role.’ Having a hybrid character with a hybrid armor with different types of traits, different types of Glyphs, different types of line items, and using different weapons from different ESO sets is NOT a ROLE in ESO. It is not about Multiple Characters. It is all about SINGLE CHARACTER.



    * EDIT: It seems that quotes been broken.
    Edited by DarkLordLegion on June 16, 2020 6:10AM
    Roles are nothing but positions. It's the builds that gets you through the battles. I am a Scavanger. I am a Hunter. I am a Warrior. Battle Across Tameriel shall fall.


  • Raisin
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    It has nothing to do with ‘You don’t need to own the DLC’. You need to have Greymoor installed or downloaded, because there are other files involved.
    That is not how that works. ESO isn't a single player game. Everybody who has played since Greymoor launched, has Greymoor downloaded. It was the most recent patch. You are not able to play without downloading this patch. All the files already exist on your computer, you just don't have access to the zone. You do have access to buying these enchants from other people, including through guild traders, and using them on your armor. The game physically will not let you login and play if you are using an outdated client that hasn't downloaded and installed Greymoor.
    Edited by Raisin on June 14, 2020 1:33AM
  • MashmalloMan
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    @DarkLordLegion You lost me, your entire comment is busted, can you please fix the quotes?

    Edit: Sorry, nevermind. You clearly have your own viewpoint here or there is a language barrier, I'm sorry if my comments confused you, but yours definitely confused me. I've explained numerous times how you can get more out of your situation. No point any longer trying to describe the nonsensical action of using 2 + 3 pieces from 2 different sets instead of 5 pieces from 1 that provides the exact same bonueses, but more. You also argued over things I never brought up in the first place like how I never suggested you to use more than 5 Shacklebreaker, but you go on to explain how 6,7, 8 pieces of Shacklebreaker do nothing. I'm aware of that.

    Have a great day.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on June 14, 2020 10:31PM
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  • DarkLordLegion
    Raisin wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with ‘You don’t need to own the DLC’. You need to have Greymoor installed or downloaded, because there are other files involved.
    That is not how that works. ESO isn't a single player game. Everybody who has played since Greymoor launched, has Greymoor downloaded. It was the most recent patch. You are not able to play without downloading this patch. All the files already exist on your computer, you just don't have access to the zone. You do have access to buying these enchants from other people, including through guild traders, and using them on your armor. The game physically will not let you login and play if you are using an outdated client that hasn't downloaded and installed Greymoor.

    Let me remind you something, Raisin. I never said what kind of platform I am using ESO on. Secondly, Yes, this is Massive Multiple Online Role Playing Game, which means ESO is allowing tons of players to log in and to play ESO. Third, ZOS has provided options for players to use in ESO. You can have up to nine slot, but you can also buy additional slot, IF YOU CHOICE to do so. I bet you have multiple characters on ESO.You choice yourself to have multiple characters. You choice yourself to have them play different roles. I bet Raisin, that is only way you know how to play on ESO. I truly respect that big time.

    @DarkLordLegion You lost me, your entire comment is busted, can you please fix the quotes?

    Edit: Sorry, nevermind. You clearly have your own viewpoint here or there is a language barrier, I'm sorry if my comments confused you, but yours definitely confused me. I've explained numerous times how you can get more out of your situation. No point any longer trying to describe the nonsensical action of using 2 + 3 pieces from 2 different sets instead of 5 pieces from 1 that provides the exact same bonueses, but more. You also argued over things I never brought up in the first place like how I never suggested you to use more than 5 Shacklebreaker, but you go on to explain how 6,7, 8 pieces of Shacklebreaker do nothing. I'm aware of that.

    Have a great day.

    Yes, I believe that the quotes on my end gotten broken. Thank you for letting me know about it.

    You flat out mention Ancient Dragonguard. I was looking at both Ancient Dragonguard and Shacklebreaker, when I mention of how Ancient Dragonguard can offer same thing as in Shacklebreaker, expect that Shacklebreaker can offer Max Magicka, Max Stamina, Stamina Recovery, Magicka Recovery. You went on the aggressive move, in telling me that you didn't mention about switching Ancient Dragonguard for Shacklebreaker. I clearly stated that I was comparing eso sets with one another.

    You went on to start talking 5 piece of Hist Bark, after I made a statement about Ancient Dragonguard. You made a point of saying that using 2+3 pieces from 2 different sets makes no sense at all. No what? You mention to me, that you preferred to use "Trigger Moves" Both, Ancient Dragonguard and Hist Bark offers 'Trigger Moves'.

    You want to know why I'm using 2+3 piece from 2 different sets? This will make sense to you. It is called Monster Set. Hist Bark: 2 items: Adds 34-1487 Armor those two items will be removed by Monster Set. So, if Vampire Kiss's Maximum Health and Health Recovery switches over to Hist Bark. Hist Bark will become... [2 items: Adds 34-1487 Armor 3 items: Adds 3-129 Health Recovery.] Therefore, this right here. 3 items: Adds 3-129 Health Recovery 4 items: Adds 28-1206 Maximum Health 5 items: While you are blocking you gain Major Evasion, reducing damage from area attacks by 25%. will be useless.

    Before you even think about bring up the idea. "You can still use the one of the weapons within Hist Bark for the lost two items." It will not work at all. Why? Switching between two weapons. Another thing, do not bring up. "You can still use the weapons from the same set." Why, the secondary weapon, [ not the primary weapon ] has been set up to be used as 'In-game Money Sinkholes.'


    Look close at my original first post. There is no mention of weapons at all. Why? if I want to increase my health, I can get a weapon that offers Max. Health. But if I want to increase the resistance, I can get the same weapon to have resistance. But, if I want to have the same weapon to be able to use Weapon Damage. Weapon's Weapon Damage and my jewelery set's Weapon Damage will be increased. All of that is getting from Guild Traders. All of this is about playing with a single character, only one character.

    Roles are nothing but positions. It's the builds that gets you through the battles. I am a Scavanger. I am a Hunter. I am a Warrior. Battle Across Tameriel shall fall.


  • Raisin
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    Raisin wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with ‘You don’t need to own the DLC’. You need to have Greymoor installed or downloaded, because there are other files involved.
    That is not how that works. ESO isn't a single player game. Everybody who has played since Greymoor launched, has Greymoor downloaded. It was the most recent patch. You are not able to play without downloading this patch. All the files already exist on your computer, you just don't have access to the zone. You do have access to buying these enchants from other people, including through guild traders, and using them on your armor. The game physically will not let you login and play if you are using an outdated client that hasn't downloaded and installed Greymoor.

    Let me remind you something, Raisin. I never said what kind of platform I am using ESO on. Secondly, Yes, this is Massive Multiple Online Role Playing Game, which means ESO is allowing tons of players to log in and to play ESO. Third, ZOS has provided options for players to use in ESO. You can have up to nine slot, but you can also buy additional slot, IF YOU CHOICE to do so. I bet you have multiple characters on ESO.You choice yourself to have multiple characters. You choice yourself to have them play different roles. I bet Raisin, that is only way you know how to play on ESO. I truly respect that big time.

    It doesn't matter what platform you're on. If you've played since Greymoor was released, you have Greymoor installed and downloaded. Having multiple characters or just one also doesn't affect this in any way.
  • DarkLordLegion
    @Raisin
    Actual, it does matter what kind of platform you are using.


    @everyone else

    Any more advise that I need for my Khajiit DragonKnight Heavy Armor Dual Power Multiple Weapons Healer or HADPMWH for short?
    Roles are nothing but positions. It's the builds that gets you through the battles. I am a Scavanger. I am a Hunter. I am a Warrior. Battle Across Tameriel shall fall.


  • Raisin
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    @Raisin
    Actual, it does matter what kind of platform you are using.


    @everyone else

    Any more advise that I need for my Khajiit DragonKnight Heavy Armor Dual Power Multiple Weapons Healer or HADPMWH for short?

    You're free to go to a guild trader, look for the rune/glyphs and prove me wrong.
  • OG_Kaveman
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    @Raisin
    Actual, it does matter what kind of platform you are using.


    @everyone else

    Any more advise that I need for my Khajiit DragonKnight Heavy Armor Dual Power Multiple Weapons Healer or HADPMWH for short?

    actually, it doesn't matter. as long as the game, all version of the game have greymoor on them now, since june 9th. you can buy the glyphs that @Raisin taking about. 100%. i guarantee it.


    my advice is to listen to the players in this thread, either you are not a native English speaker, so your understanding is wrong or you "have your own viewpoint here", meaning you will not change the way you think about whatever people are saying, making any comment people give you in vain.

    how about you use this https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor and screenshot your build for us and then upload your screenshot to imgur.com so we have a better idea of what exactly you are trying to do, your formatting in the OP is not great, with a lot of extraneous, unimportant information, like skill level and such. this will help visualize what you are going for.
    Edited by OG_Kaveman on June 20, 2020 12:08PM
  • HankTwo
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    Its rather hard to follow your line of thought, DarkLordLegion. At times you just jump from topic to topic, like when Raisin correctly stated that everyone who plays eso (afaik no matter the server since june 10th) can buy the new greymoor glyphs with ingame gold at guild traders, you start to ramble about character slots. Why? How is this related?

    That being said, your build definitely seems suboptimal, with multiple things to improve. If you really want help on it and have the time go to uesp https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor make an account, re-create your build there, save it, and then post it here. I'm pretty sure that I can change some stuff around to flat out give you better stats with zero downsides.

    Edit: And to make this 100% clear with improving your build I don't mean changing it to a role you don't want to play. I'm simply talking about getting more stats without sacrificing anything.
    Edited by HankTwo on June 20, 2020 2:52PM
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  • DarkLordLegion
    @raisin
    June 4 is the day that I flat out stated. “If you have Greymore Installed.” I didn’t have Greymore yet, when I posted that comment.

    @OG_Kaveman

    Correction, Xbox 1 supposed to have their came out June 9th, but it was delayed until June 10.

    That’s all I am going to say about that subject.


    @OG_Kaveman

    American English is my native language. You are claiming that my understand is wrong, as well as I don’t listen to players? I have been keeping watch on what’s been said in this forum post, that I had started.


    Majority are basically creating multiple characters to play certain role. Within this certain role, a character is limited to: 1. What type of weapon to use. 2. What type of armor style to use. 3. What type of attribute to use. 4. What type of line items to use. 5. What type of glyphs to use.
    ^ That’s for Join Parties and for Join Guilds.


    If you had pay any attention, you would have notice… → 20 Magicka/20 Stamina/24 Health.

    That’s Triple Attribute, a balance between all three Attributes. Not full Stamina. Not full Magicka. Not full Health. Not Stamina-Magicka. Not Stamina-Health. Not Magicka-Health.

    I reduce Stamina and Magicka, in order to allow more of Health. ← Right there is something that Majority of players will not do, because it would go against their prospect of wanting to have a strong attack build and such. 20 Magicka/20 Stamina/24 Health is more about BALANCE.

    There is only one race within ESO, that will follow the Triple Attributes. Khajiit. Maximum 825 per Attributes (Stamina, Magicka, and Health).

    So with the combination of Triple Attribute and Khajiit, Maximum Stamina, Maximum Magicka, and Maximum Health has been increased. Since, you all are so worry about the proc and final fifth line item… The combination of Shacklebreaker and Vampire’s Kiss, which Shacklebreaker offers Stamina and Magicka and Vampire’s Kiss offers Health. I basically increased Stamina, Magicka, and Health for the third time. Even the seven pieces have the Multi-Effect, which increase the Triple Attributes (7 times)

    The thing about Heavy Armor style is not all about ‘Tank’ role. It is about Heavy Armor Style having a high amount of armor, unlike Medium and Light. Medium is for stamina, while Light is for magicka. Heavy Armor style is the only one out of all three, that’s offer something that has both Stamina and Magicka. Heavy Armor style also increase more of the health.

    In battle, attack vs. health (defence), determined the amount of health being lost in battle. So higher amount of armor reduces the amount of health. That’s where Hist Bark’s two line item comes into play. Also, Increase of Resistance and Increase of Armor Rating helps with Heavy Armor.


    There is more…. Heavy Armor Style offers: You restore 108 Magicka and Stamina when you take damage for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped. That’s where Stamina and Magicka comes into play. By having Magicka weapons, the Magicka is being restored. That’s goes for Stamina as well.


    I don’t build my avatar character for the need to fit into a Party or to fit into a guild. I build my avatar character for battle. That’s why I m using weapons from different eso sets, instead of weapons from the same set. It’s not about Party build or Guild build.




    Roles are nothing but positions. It's the builds that gets you through the battles. I am a Scavanger. I am a Hunter. I am a Warrior. Battle Across Tameriel shall fall.


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