About torc of tonal - I didn't get it - if both of your resource pools are below 50% then both get 450 recovery bonus? 0_o
Even if they are Meta refuse to play a Mobile Game in an Mmo.
Thevampirenight wrote: »I diddnt find the info on pts, but someone write that the ring dosnt work with cloak and sneak (i am right ?)
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No that is the draw back to the Thrassian Stranglers doing either of those things would cancel out the stranglers bonus.
MaleAmazon wrote: »A combo of any 2 of snow treading, malacath, tonal consistency for a tanky werewolf might be somewhat interesting in pvp though. But overall... kinda meh tbh.
MaleAmazon wrote: »About torc of tonal - I didn't get it - if both of your resource pools are below 50% then both get 450 recovery bonus? 0_o
Yeah. Would seem that way; I didn´t think of that.
Tonal consistency, snow treaders and Malacath look interesting; wild hunt also. I am not sure about damage done thing, if it works on baseline or . Might have to check that out.
That being said, they don´t look too great. I´d have to give up a monster mask for 2 of them. A combo of any 2 of snow treading, malacath, tonal consistency for a tanky werewolf might be somewhat interesting in pvp though. But overall... kinda meh tbh.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »MaleAmazon wrote: »About torc of tonal - I didn't get it - if both of your resource pools are below 50% then both get 450 recovery bonus? 0_o
Yeah. Would seem that way; I didn´t think of that.
Tonal consistency, snow treaders and Malacath look interesting; wild hunt also. I am not sure about damage done thing, if it works on baseline or . Might have to check that out.
That being said, they don´t look too great. I´d have to give up a monster mask for 2 of them. A combo of any 2 of snow treading, malacath, tonal consistency for a tanky werewolf might be somewhat interesting in pvp though. But overall... kinda meh tbh.
Malacath band is roughly +11% to damage in no-CP (if we account lose of crit), this is more then any monster helm can give maybe with exception of Zaan.
If Tonal consistency buffs both recoveries, I am pretty sure it is not worth grinding because it will be 100% nerfed. On something like magsorc and almost any stambuild it is extremely easy to have both resources below 50% without gimping yourself.
Unfortunately you can only equip one Mythic item at a time.
Knightpanther wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »MaleAmazon wrote: »About torc of tonal - I didn't get it - if both of your resource pools are below 50% then both get 450 recovery bonus? 0_o
Yeah. Would seem that way; I didn´t think of that.
Tonal consistency, snow treaders and Malacath look interesting; wild hunt also. I am not sure about damage done thing, if it works on baseline or . Might have to check that out.
That being said, they don´t look too great. I´d have to give up a monster mask for 2 of them. A combo of any 2 of snow treading, malacath, tonal consistency for a tanky werewolf might be somewhat interesting in pvp though. But overall... kinda meh tbh.
Malacath band is roughly +11% to damage in no-CP (if we account lose of crit), this is more then any monster helm can give maybe with exception of Zaan.
If Tonal consistency buffs both recoveries, I am pretty sure it is not worth grinding because it will be 100% nerfed. On something like magsorc and almost any stambuild it is extremely easy to have both resources below 50% without gimping yourself.
But why would you bother? Slimecraw adds 8% without a loss for crit, is that 3% worth it? As many skills benefit from crits (sorcerer heals) i really wouldn't want to lose it even with the low crit rate in no CP.
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Also there are tricks like putting 2nd 5-th piece on backbar and then you can get both 5th
MaleAmazon wrote: »Also there are tricks like putting 2nd 5-th piece on backbar and then you can get both 5th
How does this work with it being a ring though?
You get 2 monster + 5 armor for two sets, then you have (2+1) jewelry with malacath being the 1, and 2 pieces for weapons. I only count 4 possible pieces unless I just suffered an intelligence meltdown.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »MaleAmazon wrote: »Also there are tricks like putting 2nd 5-th piece on backbar and then you can get both 5th
How does this work with it being a ring though?
You get 2 monster + 5 armor for two sets, then you have (2+1) jewelry with malacath being the 1, and 2 pieces for weapons. I only count 4 possible pieces unless I just suffered an intelligence meltdown.
We have 12 slots on main bar +2 slots on backbar. So 5+5+2(monster)+1(mystic)=13 and you even have 1 slot left to have 4th bonus of backbar set on main bar.
So quick example:
Front bar: NMA Maul + medium boots, belt, bracers. Truth heavy chest and greaves. Medium monster shoulder and head. 2 jewelry of truth + malacath.
Backbar: Truth 1-handed weapon + NMA shield.
That way you only lose NMA bonus (and cost increase) on backbar, and have all your sets fully represented on main bar. If you think that it will be hard to achieve good Truth uptime that way, you may go with 7th legion backbar instead or something else.
Though NMA+truth in case of malacath will have 2 useless crit bonuses. So maybe Spriggans + Stuhn's will be better. Anyway, all of this requires a lot of testing on practice, but it is technically possible to have both 5-pieces+monster+mystic.
santhoranb16_ESO wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »MaleAmazon wrote: »Also there are tricks like putting 2nd 5-th piece on backbar and then you can get both 5th
How does this work with it being a ring though?
You get 2 monster + 5 armor for two sets, then you have (2+1) jewelry with malacath being the 1, and 2 pieces for weapons. I only count 4 possible pieces unless I just suffered an intelligence meltdown.
We have 12 slots on main bar +2 slots on backbar. So 5+5+2(monster)+1(mystic)=13 and you even have 1 slot left to have 4th bonus of backbar set on main bar.
So quick example:
Front bar: NMA Maul + medium boots, belt, bracers. Truth heavy chest and greaves. Medium monster shoulder and head. 2 jewelry of truth + malacath.
Backbar: Truth 1-handed weapon + NMA shield.
That way you only lose NMA bonus (and cost increase) on backbar, and have all your sets fully represented on main bar. If you think that it will be hard to achieve good Truth uptime that way, you may go with 7th legion backbar instead or something else.
Though NMA+truth in case of malacath will have 2 useless crit bonuses. So maybe Spriggans + Stuhn's will be better. Anyway, all of this requires a lot of testing on practice, but it is technically possible to have both 5-pieces+monster+mystic.
Thats however not viable for most sets, its just for sets that can proc a buff, that carries over to the other bar. There are quite a lot sets which dont fit this condition.
That way you only lose NMA bonus (and cost increase) on backbar, and have all your sets fully represented on main bar. If you think that it will be hard to achieve good Truth uptime that way, you may go with 7th legion backbar instead or something else.
MaleAmazon wrote: »That way you only lose NMA bonus (and cost increase) on backbar, and have all your sets fully represented on main bar. If you think that it will be hard to achieve good Truth uptime that way, you may go with 7th legion backbar instead or something else.
Yeah ok, intelligence meltdown it is..
But that is not all. Given the nerfs of monster sets, you may even go with agility front
Main problem of malacath (and other jewelry) is that you won't be able to use heavy sets like Fury in medium armor.