Where can you even PvP....

Giljabrar · May 2020

Open World? Steaming hot pile of latency, skill desync, breaking free 4 times from a fear, casting your buffs 3 times each, horrendous frame drops.

Battlegrounds? Can't play with my friends, which I'm mostly okay with. But when I can't play open world, where am I supposed to PvP with my friends? Not to mention all of the above issues bleeding into BG's as well.

Dueling? Can't block/roll cancel anything because the skill won't go off. In competitive dueling, if you miss a global cooldown, ESPECIALLY a heal, you just die. Even sitting in my house, with only one other person, ping is 100% stable with no spikes, yet my skills misfire.

This is frankly a meme at this point. PvP community is in shambles right now. Might be dissolving my guild come Greymoor if none of this improves.

Why even bother logging in...

Rtzon · May 2020

[snip] BGs are great

[edited for baiting]

MurderMostFoul · May 2020

Rtzon wrote: »

[snip] BGs are great

Also, IC?

Akinos · May 2020

Zone chat PvP.

Gilvoth · May 2020

it's Horrific that i have to agree with this.
FIX THE GAME!

Weesacs · May 2020

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Rtzon wrote: »

[snip] BGs are great

Also, IC?

This. IC can be fun at times however it can be a hit or a miss.

I don't play Cyrodill. Like you said, it's too laggy. I also find it too zergy as well.

Personally I wish they would introduce some new PvP content however what that could be is up for discussion.

vamp_emily · May 2020

i understand the pain many people are having but I just wanted to mention that Blackreach(PC/NA) is CP enabled and has 3 bars on all alliances and it seems to be running exceptionally well.

I know It is too early to tell, I've only been in the campaign for a few hours but my skills actually work and my siege works. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know.

update: as soon as alliances became poplock; I had lag, a hard time moving and abilities would not fire. Imagine that.

McGordon · May 2020

IC and nocp cyepdill

technohic · May 2020

vamp_emily wrote: »

i understand the pain many people are having but I just wanted to mention that Blackreach(PC/NA) is CP enabled and has 3 bars on all alliances and it seems to be running exceptionally well.

I know It is too early to tell, I've only been in the campaign for a few hours but my skills actually work and my siege works. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know.

update: as soon as alliances became poplock; I had lag, a hard time moving and abilities would not fire. Imagine that.

I was going to ask if you were there past 9. It went downhill quickly.

I have been really mad at this in the past, and still am; but I have learned to laugh. Since update 25, I got a new PC and just before that, I had pulled a cable to get off wireless and had an internet upgrade. Did port forwarding for ESO and I can be in there with under 130 MS ping, 80+ FPS and nothing goes off. Seem to have a brief moment of function right after rubberbanding when the game decides to re-sync my location. Its terrible.

Luckylancer · May 2020

non cp cyro have lags too. My skills dont go off.

If anyone says "fix the game", he is right. Dont ask questions. Game needs a performance fix.

GRXRG · May 2020

There is no skill anymore in playing this game, 90% of the times who has the least amount of lag/desyncs wins.
Yesterday in cyro I survived a 15vs1 just by running around a rock and popping vigor and I couldn't get hit lol
Opposite case 10 minutes one guy procced zaan on me and I went away at like 25-30 range and the beam still ended up killing me because i couldn't get rid it of it.
After 5 minutes I used zaan myself, I did proc it on a guy, he did a roll dodge into my character and the beam disappeared lol
Of course break free not working, line of sight not working properly too because of hitbox desyncs, damage desyncs, animation cancelling dead, resources not regening properly and all those other things just add to the company.
This game is just dictated by luck of lag and nothing else.

vamp_emily · May 2020

technohic wrote: »

I was going to ask if you were there past 9. It went downhill quickly.

I think that is about time I started having issues.

fbours · May 2020

I do lag and have similar issues in bgs, IC and no CP, not as often nor as bad as normal/standard campaign.

ESO could be the greatest MMO in the market. For now I take a good break and hope to see some improvements in the future - with low expectations.

MurderMostFoul · May 2020

fbours wrote: »

I do lag and have similar issues in bgs, IC and no CP, not as often nor as bad as normal/standard campaign.

ESO could be the greatest MMO in the market. For now I take a good break and hope to see some improvements in the future - with low expectations.

BGs are still working well enough.

Aquatorch · May 2020

I sure do hope an employee from ZOS reads this and provides an actually insightful conversation. I just don't think they realize how bad it's become lately.

Giljabrar · May 2020

Aquatorch wrote: »

I sure do hope an employee from ZOS reads this and provides an actually insightful conversation. I just don't think they realize how bad it's become lately.

There is a 100% chance that they're aware. There's no way they aren't. Half of the traffic in any of the PvP related threads is talking about this.

They can't go out publicly and say "hey yeah, everything is on fire right now, our bad" because they have new DLC on the horizon.

technohic · May 2020

Aquatorch wrote: »

I sure do hope an employee from ZOS reads this and provides an actually insightful conversation. I just don't think they realize how bad it's become lately.

Unfortunately; I'm afraid they know and are not sure how to fix it with the resources they have, and at probably limited to those resources. We can be negative about that, and rightfully so; but I hope the devs get lucky if nothing else.

Icarus42 · May 2020

Cyrodiil is unplayable between 2pm -11pm PST except for mondays and tuesdays on NA PC Gray Host. Mondays and tuesdays are better because it hovers around 2-3 bars most of the day. Forget about playing on the weekend from about 10 am - 12am it is unbearable. If you want to record some awsome light attack zerging rubberbanding nonsense log in around 8pm friday and saturday, and post some video. Maybe someone will take notice. I have been waiting for 5 years now banging my head against this wall. Such potential, epic fail...

Giljabrar · May 2020

Icarus42 wrote: »

Cyrodiil is unplayable between 2pm -11pm PST except for mondays and tuesdays on NA PC Gray Host. Mondays and tuesdays are better because it hovers around 2-3 bars most of the day. Forget about playing on the weekend from about 10 am - 12am it is unbearable. If you want to record some awsome light attack zerging rubberbanding nonsense log in around 8pm friday and saturday, and post some video. Maybe someone will take notice. I have been waiting for 5 years now banging my head against this wall. Such potential, epic fail...

This game could've easily been the next WoW. It has a HUGE name behind it. Christ, people are still crazy about Skyrim.

But if this keeps up, they vet community (what's left) will be long gone. After they're gone, it's basically one foot in the grave.

Giljabrar · May 2020

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

fbours wrote: »

I do lag and have similar issues in bgs, IC and no CP, not as often nor as bad as normal/standard campaign.

ESO could be the greatest MMO in the market. For now I take a good break and hope to see some improvements in the future - with low expectations.

BGs are still working well enough.

While performance there has been the best option, I can no longer play actually playable PvP with my friends. With Cyrodil performance, and a lack of a separate premade queue, this Massively Multiplayer game is slowly getting relegated to Solo Skyrim 2020. But given their marketing for Greymoor, that's basically what they want it seems.

Q_Q · May 2020

McGordon wrote: »

IC and nocp cyepdill

He said where is pvp and you mentioned a pve zone?

Q_Q · May 2020

Giljabrar wrote: »

Why even bother logging in...

You can log in? Nice

SebDeTyra · May 2020

Aquatorch wrote: »

I sure do hope an employee from ZOS reads this and provides an actually insightful conversation. I just don't think they realize how bad it's become lately.

Keep dreaming. The only input we get on this forum is people censoring us 24/7.

Qbiken · May 2020

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

fbours wrote: »

I do lag and have similar issues in bgs, IC and no CP, not as often nor as bad as normal/standard campaign.

ESO could be the greatest MMO in the market. For now I take a good break and hope to see some improvements in the future - with low expectations.

BGs are still working well enough.

BG's are a god damn fiasco. Group queue completely killed any competitive scene BG's actually had. Every game now is a race to see which of the previous high mmr players can farm the shitters/casuals/feeders. Add that BG's with this patch started to receive super high ping as well it's just an horrible experience.

Cyrodil is garbage unless you can play before or around lunch hours because after that it's unplayable.

Imperial city is dead 21 out of 24 hours and you'll end up fighting the same people for 2 hours once you see some action.

PvP in this game is just garbage atm.

MurderMostFoul · May 2020

Qbiken wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

fbours wrote: »

I do lag and have similar issues in bgs, IC and no CP, not as often nor as bad as normal/standard campaign.

ESO could be the greatest MMO in the market. For now I take a good break and hope to see some improvements in the future - with low expectations.

BGs are still working well enough.

BG's are a god damn fiasco. Group queue completely killed any competitive scene BG's actually had. Every game now is a race to see which of the previous high mmr players can farm the shitters/casuals/feeders. Add that BG's with this patch started to receive super high ping as well it's just an horrible experience.

Cyrodil is garbage unless you can play before or around lunch hours because after that it's unplayable.

Imperial city is dead 21 out of 24 hours and you'll end up fighting the same people for 2 hours once you see some action.

PvP in this game is just garbage atm.

PC NA ping in BGs has been fine. Also, idk if eso pvp has ever been close to "competitive" in the e-sports sense. But if you are looking for a fun way to fight others, try builds, and have tolerable performance, BGs are a good option.

DjinnAeternam · May 2020

Leave PvP to the NPCs, thats the only way to fix it now, don't expect it to get better.

A lot of players just stopped logging in (PC-EU), which i think is a good idea.

Maulkin · May 2020

I'm not PvPing any more probably for the first time since I started playing this game back in 2014.

My options seem to be either 10+ mins solo Q for BGs to meet the same opponents again and again (all the while games start with uneven teams, like 4v2v3) or group up with friends and go into unplayable Cyro lag. IC is dead 90% of the time, and in the 2-3 hours of prime time it's the same 20 people in it. I'll just do some vet dungeons and trials if those instances ain't lagging too much. Otherwise I'll log to a different game to PvP.

I have severe doubts they have the willingness, capacity and maybe even ability to fix these issues now. All the focus seems to be on thematic updates, stories & exploration, outfits/motifs and crown store items. And when they turn some of their focus to performance or grouping tool "improvements", they somehow just make it even worse instead.

shrekt4303 · May 2020

I have no issues except in large scale siege fights(even gw2 has this issue). I just think its weird that some peoole have more issues than others with skill desync and whatnot.

A couple things you can do on the clientside is a fresh install. Plugins and addons can cause clientside latency issues. Disable old addons or addons you dont need in pvp.

You can obv reduce your settings. Reducing your view range helps alot. Theres a ton of guides out there so im not gonna explain.

Things we can all do to reduce server stress is remove your non combat pets. Its not just animations that put stress in servers. Its everything including characters loading in. The new patch will help reduce it a bit by adding multithreading on character loading on the server.

TLDR

Half the people complaining about lag are having clientside issues and can be remediated.

Maulkin · May 2020

shrekt4303 wrote: »

I have no issues except in large scale siege fights(even gw2 has this issue). I just think its weird that some peoole have more issues than others with skill desync and whatnot.

A couple things you can do on the clientside is a fresh install. Plugins and addons can cause clientside latency issues. Disable old addons or addons you dont need in pvp.

You can obv reduce your settings. Reducing your view range helps alot. Theres a ton of guides out there so im not gonna explain.

Things we can all do to reduce server stress is remove your non combat pets. Its not just animations that put stress in servers. Its everything including characters loading in. The new patch will help reduce it a bit by adding multithreading on character loading on the server.

TLDR

Half the people complaining about lag are having clientside issues and can be remediated.

Nope, you're just defending the indefensible with 0 evidence.

PC EU at least is irredeemably FUBARed. There's dozens of threads and countless of videos attesting to that, with entire raids of people experiencing the same issues. To try it pass it off as client issues is about as fake news as you can get.

If you're on a server that performs reasonably well (PC NA) count yourself lucky and don't try to invalidate what the others are experiencing without having a clue about it.

Q_Q · May 2020

shrekt4303 wrote: »

I have no issues except in large scale siege fights(even gw2 has this issue). I just think its weird that some peoole have more issues than others with skill desync and whatnot.

It’s not weird. You said it yourself. You have no issues unless there are enemies to fight. I’m a dead campaign with no enemies ofc there won’t be much lag. But...this is an mmo we should be able to fight enemies without lagging out/crashing.

Vaoh · May 2020

PvP is much more about having a source of income starting with Greymoor. They have made PvP the best way to obtain Endgame PvE Spell/Weapon potions, since those Alliance Pots (720 AP per) are going to become equal to crafted potions.

In other words, the solution is to make PvP very profitable to keep people playing instead of fixing the problems.