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More 2 piece sets not linked to undaunted dungeons please

Lotus781
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Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.
  • Cronopoly
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    How dare you think outside the box. Heresy... :)
  • mairwen85
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    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.
    Edited by mairwen85 on May 12, 2020 2:15PM
  • Lotus781
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.
  • mairwen85
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    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.

    I don't think people get tetchy about it in the way you describe, nor for the reason you say. But let's not cross pollinate this thread.

    To your idea: an alternative to monster sets, but acquired via overland. What type of new content would you see that being a reasonable reward for?

    Public dungeons and delves, World bosses, dolmens, story and zone quests etc these already drop zone sets, and a few of those are used in pvp and end game pve - - you can make a lot of gold in the guild stores off several overland gear drops. So it would have to be something new, especially as we will also have the mythic items soon (also dropping overland).

    I'm not against your idea, I just can't see a place for it in the current landscape, which is why I'd hoped you had a more fleshed out concept.
    Edited by mairwen85 on May 12, 2020 4:06PM
  • DocFrost72
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.


    To your idea: an alternative to monster sets, but acquired via overland. What type of new content would you see that being a reasonable reward for?

    Public dungeons and delves, World bosses, dolmens etc these already drop zone sets, and a few of those are used in pvp and end game pve - - you can make a lot of gold in the guild stores off several overland gear drops. So it would have to be something new, especially as we will also have the mythic items soon (also dropping overland).

    I'm not against your idea, I just can't see a place for it in the current landscape, which is why I'd hoped you had a more fleshed out concept.

    Keep in mind that great sets come from vet dungeons you can brainlessly solo (Kra'gh, Ilambris as examples). Effort in =! Quality of the gear. Heck, Spinner is an overland set you can buy for gold, and undaunted unweaver is a BOP dungeon locked set.
    Edited by DocFrost72 on May 12, 2020 4:09PM
  • mairwen85
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.


    To your idea: an alternative to monster sets, but acquired via overland. What type of new content would you see that being a reasonable reward for?

    Public dungeons and delves, World bosses, dolmens etc these already drop zone sets, and a few of those are used in pvp and end game pve - - you can make a lot of gold in the guild stores off several overland gear drops. So it would have to be something new, especially as we will also have the mythic items soon (also dropping overland).

    I'm not against your idea, I just can't see a place for it in the current landscape, which is why I'd hoped you had a more fleshed out concept.

    Keep in mind that great sets come from vet dungeons you can brainlessly solo (Kra'gh, Ilambris as examples). Effort in =! Quality of the gear. Heck, Spinner is an overland set you can buy for gold, and undaunted unweaver is a BOP dungeon locked set.

    Kind of my point. I said nothing about effort (outside of my first post, but we've moved on from there), but content for such new items to be available from.
    Edited by mairwen85 on May 12, 2020 4:16PM
  • laksikus
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    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.

    What is there to grind for?
    One or two runs are enough to get every monster helmet. And shoulders arent rly harder to get.
    Its so easy since you can transmute stuff.

    Im pretty sure you can get almost every monster combination with just one full round of dungeon dailies

    Its also possible to get monster stuff from pvp vendor.
    So i dont understand your problem.
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    Lotus781 wrote: »
    we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.

    It is not what we are upset about. Go check the numerous threads on it for more insight. If you still don't get it after that, you are beyond salvation.

    PS vMA weapons are 2 set pieces and are solo content. Mythic items are 1 pieces and mobile game content. Will/agility and more are 3 pieces and are guild store buyable, and have good 2nd piece bonus if you want alternative for monster set.

    [Edit to remove bait]
    Edited by [Deleted User] on May 13, 2020 2:07AM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    I think Gold vendor should offer 1 random dungeon weapon & armour peace each weekend (including DLCs).
    The point is:

    1. We can get whatever monster set shoulder we want through undaunted keys.
    2. We can upgrade jewellery to gold quality (farming content is much faster way to get blue ring / neck and then upgrade it).
    3. We can re-trait every ring / neck / shoulder / helmet.
    4. Buying ring / neck without owning dungeon DLC that 5 pcs set comes from is pointless, as you will never get full bonus (If you own the DLC - go to point 2).
    5. Base game vet dungeons are quite easy, so base game monster helmets are not that hard to get. You can only skip the RNG.

    Gold Vendor is kinda pointless now, as over the years its meaning declined drastically. In the past, gold jewellery was extremely valuable (pre - Summerset), but now we can simply upgrade jewellery we find.

    DLC monster helmets are the only thing worth buying, and those are quite rare. And if by some miracle gold vendor will have DLC helmets - it is the ones that we already had, over & over. Newest set, as far as I remember was from Wolfhunter, a DLC that is almost 3 years old now...

    Alternative way would be to add something similar to IC keys, that you can use to open chests in vaults that have dungeon gear, without doing the dungeon.
    Also I have a thought.... imagine if we can for example dug out a random dungeon gear or even trial gear using the new scrying / archaeology system from the zone that has entrance to dungeon or trial (with extremely rare RNG chance that is)...
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.

    I don't think people get tetchy about it in the way you describe, nor for the reason you say. But let's not cross pollinate this thread.

    To your idea: an alternative to monster sets, but acquired via overland. What type of new content would you see that being a reasonable reward for?

    Public dungeons and delves, World bosses, dolmens, story and zone quests etc these already drop zone sets, and a few of those are used in pvp and end game pve - - you can make a lot of gold in the guild stores off several overland gear drops. So it would have to be something new, especially as we will also have the mythic items soon (also dropping overland).

    I'm not against your idea, I just can't see a place for it in the current landscape, which is why I'd hoped you had a more fleshed out concept.

    Forgive me i should have said some vets not all, but judgeing by the amount of talk on the forums about Perfected vma weapons seems like a touchy subject.

    But i digress, Pretty much what i said before ,questing ,story content and the such.Just a way of getting a two piece bonus set without the repetitive side of having to do undaunted stuff.It hasnt got to be shooting lazerbeams like Zaan but somthing that would compliment basic builds and i doubt mythic items will be dropping that regularly.
  • mairwen85
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    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.

    I don't think people get tetchy about it in the way you describe, nor for the reason you say. But let's not cross pollinate this thread.

    To your idea: an alternative to monster sets, but acquired via overland. What type of new content would you see that being a reasonable reward for?

    Public dungeons and delves, World bosses, dolmens, story and zone quests etc these already drop zone sets, and a few of those are used in pvp and end game pve - - you can make a lot of gold in the guild stores off several overland gear drops. So it would have to be something new, especially as we will also have the mythic items soon (also dropping overland).

    I'm not against your idea, I just can't see a place for it in the current landscape, which is why I'd hoped you had a more fleshed out concept.

    Forgive me i should have said some vets not all, but judgeing by the amount of talk on the forums about Perfected vma weapons seems like a touchy subject.

    But i digress, Pretty much what i said before ,questing ,story content and the such.Just a way of getting a two piece bonus set without the repetitive side of having to do undaunted stuff.It hasnt got to be shooting lazerbeams like Zaan but somthing that would compliment basic builds and i doubt mythic items will be dropping that regularly.

    Like maybe a crafted set where the forge is unlocked by completing a storyarc or doing certain zone activities?
    Edited by mairwen85 on May 12, 2020 4:31PM
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    The bottom line is that this is an MMO-style game, @Lotus781 ... you're going to have to suck it up and do group content at some point.

    I'm not in favor of giving additional rewards for the easiest content in the game.
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    The bottom line is that this is an MMO-style game, @Lotus781 ... you're going to have to suck it up and do group content at some point.

    I'm not in favor of giving additional rewards for the easiest content in the game.

    Thats alright i'll just do MA on normal :)
  • Lotus781
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.

    I don't think people get tetchy about it in the way you describe, nor for the reason you say. But let's not cross pollinate this thread.

    To your idea: an alternative to monster sets, but acquired via overland. What type of new content would you see that being a reasonable reward for?

    Public dungeons and delves, World bosses, dolmens, story and zone quests etc these already drop zone sets, and a few of those are used in pvp and end game pve - - you can make a lot of gold in the guild stores off several overland gear drops. So it would have to be something new, especially as we will also have the mythic items soon (also dropping overland).

    I'm not against your idea, I just can't see a place for it in the current landscape, which is why I'd hoped you had a more fleshed out concept.

    Forgive me i should have said some vets not all, but judgeing by the amount of talk on the forums about Perfected vma weapons seems like a touchy subject.

    But i digress, Pretty much what i said before ,questing ,story content and the such.Just a way of getting a two piece bonus set without the repetitive side of having to do undaunted stuff.It hasnt got to be shooting lazerbeams like Zaan but somthing that would compliment basic builds and i doubt mythic items will be dropping that regularly.

    Like maybe a crafted set where the forge is unlocked by completing a storyarc or doing certain zone activities?

    Thats sounds good.
  • mairwen85
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    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Lotus781 wrote: »
    Zos can we please have another way to get more 2 piece armour sets other then having to todo repetitive boring undaunted dungeons please.

    How about a suggestion? What type of content do you envisage, and what would those 2pc look like? Would they be suitable reward for the content/effort to gain them, etc.

    I'd like to read your thoughts on that.

    Just like any other 5 piece pve armour set through questing added in to story content, i'm not saying thay have to be as good as undaunted stuff, we wouldn't want to upset veteran players who get pleasure from continuously grinding the same content, heaven knows vets get tetchy when they find out other people can get the same gear with no real effort....Cough.. perfected Vma.But the game is bigger then just pandering to the high end cp elitists it's much more inclusive then that.

    I don't think people get tetchy about it in the way you describe, nor for the reason you say. But let's not cross pollinate this thread.

    To your idea: an alternative to monster sets, but acquired via overland. What type of new content would you see that being a reasonable reward for?

    Public dungeons and delves, World bosses, dolmens, story and zone quests etc these already drop zone sets, and a few of those are used in pvp and end game pve - - you can make a lot of gold in the guild stores off several overland gear drops. So it would have to be something new, especially as we will also have the mythic items soon (also dropping overland).

    I'm not against your idea, I just can't see a place for it in the current landscape, which is why I'd hoped you had a more fleshed out concept.

    Forgive me i should have said some vets not all, but judgeing by the amount of talk on the forums about Perfected vma weapons seems like a touchy subject.

    But i digress, Pretty much what i said before ,questing ,story content and the such.Just a way of getting a two piece bonus set without the repetitive side of having to do undaunted stuff.It hasnt got to be shooting lazerbeams like Zaan but somthing that would compliment basic builds and i doubt mythic items will be dropping that regularly.

    Like maybe a crafted set where the forge is unlocked by completing a storyarc or doing certain zone activities?

    Thats sounds good.

    Got to be careful what you ask for when it comes to ZOS. Every request that's made is like a monkey's paw wish 😂
  • Lotus781
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    I think Gold vendor should offer 1 random dungeon weapon & armour peace each weekend (including DLCs).
    The point is:

    1. We can get whatever monster set shoulder we want through undaunted keys.
    2. We can upgrade jewellery to gold quality (farming content is much faster way to get blue ring / neck and then upgrade it).
    3. We can re-trait every ring / neck / shoulder / helmet.
    4. Buying ring / neck without owning dungeon DLC that 5 pcs set comes from is pointless, as you will never get full bonus (If you own the DLC - go to point 2).
    5. Base game vet dungeons are quite easy, so base game monster helmets are not that hard to get. You can only skip the RNG.

    Gold Vendor is kinda pointless now, as over the years its meaning declined drastically. In the past, gold jewellery was extremely valuable (pre - Summerset), but now we can simply upgrade jewellery we find.

    DLC monster helmets are the only thing worth buying, and those are quite rare. And if by some miracle gold vendor will have DLC helmets - it is the ones that we already had, over & over. Newest set, as far as I remember was from Wolfhunter, a DLC that is almost 3 years old now...

    Alternative way would be to add something similar to IC keys, that you can use to open chests in vaults that have dungeon gear, without doing the dungeon.
    Also I have a thought.... imagine if we can for example dug out a random dungeon gear or even trial gear using the new scrying / archaeology system from the zone that has entrance to dungeon or trial (with extremely rare RNG chance that is)...

    Put this Man in charge.
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    I feel like we might already be getting something like that with the Mythic gear.

    Maybe if Antiquities catches on they could add some new 2 or 3 piece sets that can be aquired from it? Always seemed weird that the one 2 piece ring set in the enitre game (that I'm aware of) is the one new characters get when they reach level 10.
  • xXMeowMeowXx
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    Don’t worry they just nerf them anyway....

    Nonetheless since they added the mythic one set pieces....I see no reason why they could not accommodate the same with two piece sets.

    Would like to see some new PvP two piece sets that are not in PvE.
    Edited by xXMeowMeowXx on May 12, 2020 5:45PM
  • idk
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    We have a lot of 2 pc sets not linked to the pledges and related dungeons. We have arena weapons that are all 2 pc sets.
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