Draugrkin's Grip

zvavi

Did anyone test this thing? How does it react to all abilities? Pets? Proc sets? All tested info is welcome.

ne.ga.kurai_ESO

Not sure about pets, but definitely proc sets. It's all instances of damage done by you. I know it works with Zaan (I use it on my magcro) and Kra'gh. Draugrkin is kind of trending with the groupthink BG people now to the point that stam users are slotting it to use with Kra'gh, Rapid Strikes builds.

Decimus has a build video for stam. t3hasiangod has several videos testing it for PvE purposes.

If you can get a lot of ticks of damage per GCD then it's a good set. Things like Necro siphon, orbs, crushing shock, rapid strikes, kra'gh, etc.

WrathOfInnos

The 5pc bonus can be pretty good on a DoT build. It works the same way as the Stone Giant stagger debuff, adding a flat value to every tick of damage (affected by crit and vulnerabilities, but not damage done modifiers). On average it adds about 900-1000 damage to ticks in a fully optimized trial scenario, which is double the magnitude of 3X stagger, and can give about 6-8k DPS depending on your class and build.

The Draugrkin 5pc is actually very similar to Spell Strat (which gives about 7k DPS from the 500 Spell Damage 5pc in my testing) since both are single target sets and give no cleave or AoE. The problem with Draugrkin is the weak 3 and 4 piece bonuses. Spell Pen and Magicka Recovery kill the set for end game PVE, and 99% of the time Spell Strat will be a better option with its Spell Damage bonuses.

Necrotiger

Any thought on mag-necro with draugrkin? Like when you drop graveyard, orb, wall and siphon it should be pretty powerful in PvE against bosses?

YandereGirlfriend

I use it on my magRomancer because I already have enough characters that use the meta setups.

It is basically the same as Mother's Sorrow so you can use it with False God's and not lose very much DPS.

That said, I use it with Succession (and Ilambris, though I haven't parsed since it was changed) and it's a few thousand DPS behind, but the moral of the story is that, yes, if you use many DoTs then Draugrkin is a very viable (but not BiS) set for magDPS.

Zer0_CooL

All i know, it works only on one target at the time. Unfortunately.

Burtan

Currently the strongest available dmg based proc set in no CP PvP by a long shot. It's very over-tuned in that environment.

This set allows you to stack dmg sources (some players reach more than 15 in a single second) and melt players who have stacked mitigation and HP in a matter of seconds. Those stamsorcs melting you with rapid strikes in 3 seconds? Draugrkin.

Says a lot about how over-tuned the 5 piece effect is if its still the best dmg set available even to stamina builds despite being a light armour magicka set.

Nerf pls.

Cinbri

Burtan wrote: »

Currently the strongest available dmg based proc set in no CP PvP by a long shot. It's very over-tuned in that environment.

This set allows you to stack dmg sources (some players reach more than 15 in a single second) and melt players who have stacked mitigation and HP in a matter of seconds. Those stamsorcs melting you with rapid strikes in 3 seconds? Draugrkin.

Says a lot about how over-tuned the 5 piece effect is if its still the best dmg set available even to stamina builds despite being a light armour magicka set.

Nerf pls.

Best damage set in game is stamina based and called Azureblight. Nor Venomous nor Draugrkin come even close to it in term of damage capability.

Burtan

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Currently the strongest available dmg based proc set in no CP PvP by a long shot. It's very over-tuned in that environment.

This set allows you to stack dmg sources (some players reach more than 15 in a single second) and melt players who have stacked mitigation and HP in a matter of seconds. Those stamsorcs melting you with rapid strikes in 3 seconds? Draugrkin.

Says a lot about how over-tuned the 5 piece effect is if its still the best dmg set available even to stamina builds despite being a light armour magicka set.

Nerf pls.

Best damage set in game is stamina based and called Azureblight. Nor Venomous nor Draugrkin come even close to it in term of damage capability.

Azureblight's dmg capabilities only come in when using it on multiple players and stacking damage over time sources to make multiple people explode for a large amount of dmg, similar to Vicious Death.

This set may be the biggest threat to people who rely on targeting smaller numbers of players but in the wider scope of things Draugrkin provides the highest amount of dmg vs a single target by very far.

Azureblight will only deal 3-4k dmg to you unless you are stacking inside too many other players, but I'm sure that's not the problem you are having

Cinbri

Burtan wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Currently the strongest available dmg based proc set in no CP PvP by a long shot. It's very over-tuned in that environment.

This set allows you to stack dmg sources (some players reach more than 15 in a single second) and melt players who have stacked mitigation and HP in a matter of seconds. Those stamsorcs melting you with rapid strikes in 3 seconds? Draugrkin.

Says a lot about how over-tuned the 5 piece effect is if its still the best dmg set available even to stamina builds despite being a light armour magicka set.

Nerf pls.

Best damage set in game is stamina based and called Azureblight. Nor Venomous nor Draugrkin come even close to it in term of damage capability.

Azureblight's dmg capabilities only come in when using it on multiple players and stacking damage over time sources to make multiple people explode for a large amount of dmg, similar to Vicious Death.

This set may be the biggest threat to people who rely on targeting smaller numbers of players but in the wider scope of things Draugrkin provides the highest amount of dmg vs a single target by very far.

Azureblight will only deal 3-4k dmg to you unless you are stacking inside too many other players, but I'm sure that's not the problem you are having

But thats the thing - people in eso pvp always play groups or just stacking together as tight as they can and this making aoe procsets superior to single target, stuff like 1v1 is almost unexisting and close to be just a meme. And Azure far superior to rest of aoe sets coz its damage not just scaling to amount of enemies you fight but also dps increasing by amount of dots you can apply.
It especially visible during midyear mayhem when you definetly would want to use sets like azure to nuke 15men zerg chasing you in ic.

Rianai

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Currently the strongest available dmg based proc set in no CP PvP by a long shot. It's very over-tuned in that environment.

This set allows you to stack dmg sources (some players reach more than 15 in a single second) and melt players who have stacked mitigation and HP in a matter of seconds. Those stamsorcs melting you with rapid strikes in 3 seconds? Draugrkin.

Says a lot about how over-tuned the 5 piece effect is if its still the best dmg set available even to stamina builds despite being a light armour magicka set.

Nerf pls.

Best damage set in game is stamina based and called Azureblight. Nor Venomous nor Draugrkin come even close to it in term of damage capability.

Azureblight's dmg capabilities only come in when using it on multiple players and stacking damage over time sources to make multiple people explode for a large amount of dmg, similar to Vicious Death.

This set may be the biggest threat to people who rely on targeting smaller numbers of players but in the wider scope of things Draugrkin provides the highest amount of dmg vs a single target by very far.

Azureblight will only deal 3-4k dmg to you unless you are stacking inside too many other players, but I'm sure that's not the problem you are having

But thats the thing - people in eso pvp always play groups or just stacking together as tight as they can and this making aoe procsets superior to single target, stuff like 1v1 is almost unexisting and close to be just a meme. And Azure far superior to rest of aoe sets coz its damage not just scaling to amount of enemies you fight but also dps increasing by amount of dots you can apply.
It especially visible during midyear mayhem when you definetly would want to use sets like azure to nuke 15men zerg chasing you in ic.

1v1 might not be that common, but Xv1 definitely is and most proc sets excel in this situation, so having a few that work the opposite way is a welcome change and does not make them op, especially when counterplay is so easy. In fact, adding more sets that make players think twice about stacking up might be the only chance we have for some actual performance improvements.

Burtan

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Currently the strongest available dmg based proc set in no CP PvP by a long shot. It's very over-tuned in that environment.

This set allows you to stack dmg sources (some players reach more than 15 in a single second) and melt players who have stacked mitigation and HP in a matter of seconds. Those stamsorcs melting you with rapid strikes in 3 seconds? Draugrkin.

Says a lot about how over-tuned the 5 piece effect is if its still the best dmg set available even to stamina builds despite being a light armour magicka set.

Nerf pls.

Best damage set in game is stamina based and called Azureblight. Nor Venomous nor Draugrkin come even close to it in term of damage capability.

Azureblight's dmg capabilities only come in when using it on multiple players and stacking damage over time sources to make multiple people explode for a large amount of dmg, similar to Vicious Death.

This set may be the biggest threat to people who rely on targeting smaller numbers of players but in the wider scope of things Draugrkin provides the highest amount of dmg vs a single target by very far.

Azureblight will only deal 3-4k dmg to you unless you are stacking inside too many other players, but I'm sure that's not the problem you are having

But thats the thing - people in eso pvp always play groups or just stacking together as tight as they can and this making aoe procsets superior to single target, stuff like 1v1 is almost unexisting and close to be just a meme. And Azure far superior to rest of aoe sets coz its damage not just scaling to amount of enemies you fight but also dps increasing by amount of dots you can apply.
It especially visible during midyear mayhem when you definetly would want to use sets like azure to nuke 15men zerg chasing you in ic.

Well this set has some requirements;

1. You need to be fighting multiple people.
2. You need to time it to make sure multiple people explode at the same time.
3. You need to make sure these players dont notice the blight seed debuff on them and stay stacked on each other.

Considering that you need make all these things happen without dying for this set to reach its full potential, I would say the pay off is justified.

Draugrkin however allows you to stack obscene amounts of damage and melt a single target before they can react, which is incredibly toxic for players on the lower APM side of things as well as more experienced players trying to play solo.

Also as Rianai said, this set does provide some a counter to the amount of Xv1/1v1 based proc sets that are in the game. If people are encouraged to spread out more then we might see better performance and some players may even improve in ability.

katorga

Burtan wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Burtan wrote: »

Currently the strongest available dmg based proc set in no CP PvP by a long shot. It's very over-tuned in that environment.

This set allows you to stack dmg sources (some players reach more than 15 in a single second) and melt players who have stacked mitigation and HP in a matter of seconds. Those stamsorcs melting you with rapid strikes in 3 seconds? Draugrkin.

Says a lot about how over-tuned the 5 piece effect is if its still the best dmg set available even to stamina builds despite being a light armour magicka set.

Nerf pls.

Best damage set in game is stamina based and called Azureblight. Nor Venomous nor Draugrkin come even close to it in term of damage capability.

Azureblight's dmg capabilities only come in when using it on multiple players and stacking damage over time sources to make multiple people explode for a large amount of dmg, similar to Vicious Death.

This set may be the biggest threat to people who rely on targeting smaller numbers of players but in the wider scope of things Draugrkin provides the highest amount of dmg vs a single target by very far.

Azureblight will only deal 3-4k dmg to you unless you are stacking inside too many other players, but I'm sure that's not the problem you are having

But thats the thing - people in eso pvp always play groups or just stacking together as tight as they can and this making aoe procsets superior to single target, stuff like 1v1 is almost unexisting and close to be just a meme. And Azure far superior to rest of aoe sets coz its damage not just scaling to amount of enemies you fight but also dps increasing by amount of dots you can apply.
It especially visible during midyear mayhem when you definetly would want to use sets like azure to nuke 15men zerg chasing you in ic.

Draugrkin however allows you to stack obscene amounts of damage and melt a single target before they can react, which is incredibly toxic for players on the lower APM side of things as well as more experienced players trying to play solo.

Won't see no more Draugrkin sorcs next DLC. Worst class to use malacath with.

VMA Axe , 1-2 Bleeds per Stampede, stampede dot, double dot poison, Unleashed Terror set for a huge dot, back bar deadly cloak with poison/flame glyphs - and Draugrkin or Azureblight, really just throw on any other set you want, maybe wyrd tree to counter others doing this to you.

All of it lands with Blastbones (major defile + 15% dot damage) or Sub Assault (pen + ~14% damage) or Incap (20% damage). O h h e c k y e a h...25% from malacath.