Mythic Items and separated slot

TheHsN

What about make an another Gear slot for the Mythic Items. And it is going to boost our builds and not destroy 5+2+2 builds. Now players need to sacrifices from items or set buffs.
I think it would be better if we have it like a Rune slot or Mythic Items slot

tmbrinks

I disagree.

The mythic items are already as powerful, if not more powerful, than a 5 piece bonus.

If you want to use them, you need to decide to make the sacrifice of one of those 5 piece bonuses.

virtus753

Since mythic items are locked behind Greymoor, this would be a huge advantage for players who buy the chapter over those who don’t. Take Ring of the Wild Hunt, for example: this would be a free 15% speed boost in combat (45% outside it) without sacrificing anything about your current build. Don’t own Greymoor? Good luck catching up to those who do!

As it is now, you have to make a choice to sacrifice part of your build to wear a mythic item. That puts it in line with other sets locked behind DLC: you need to pay to get access to those sets, but you still have to work within the slot limit even once you have them. It’s a replacement, not an addition, which means much more equal footing for those who have access to the DLC and those who don’t.

TheHsN

virtus753 wrote: »

Since mythic items are locked behind Greymoor, this would be a huge advantage for players who buy the chapter over those who don’t. Take Ring of the Wild Hunt, for example: this would be a free 15% speed boost in combat (45% outside it) without sacrificing anything about your current build. Don’t own Greymoor? Good luck catching up to those who do!

As it is now, you have to make a choice to sacrifice part of your build to wear a mythic item. That puts it in line with other sets locked behind DLC: you need to pay to get access to those sets, but you still have to work within the slot limit even once you have them. It’s a replacement, not an addition, which means much more equal footing for those who have access to the DLC and those who don’t.

It is Good sale Strategy for Zos like the Bag for craftings

majulook

tmbrinks wrote: »

I disagree.

The mythic items are already as powerful, if not more powerful, than a 5 piece bonus.

If you want to use them, you need to decide to make the sacrifice of one of those 5 piece bonuses.

I fully agree with this.

indigorune

I think the number of item slots should stay as it is. This way, you can essentially replace the 5 item (or 2 item, or w/e) bonus with the bonus provided by the mythic item.

idk

tmbrinks wrote: »

I disagree.

The mythic items are already as powerful, if not more powerful, than a 5 piece bonus.

If you want to use them, you need to decide to make the sacrifice of one of those 5 piece bonuses.

I agree with this. The reason for the number of slots is that we need to make a choice. With such powerful items Zos is adding that requirement to make a choice is what we equip is even more important.

WoppaBoem

I would like to see 1 gear slot for mytic items yes. Much more fun.

Sephyr

TheHsN wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Since mythic items are locked behind Greymoor, this would be a huge advantage for players who buy the chapter over those who don’t. Take Ring of the Wild Hunt, for example: this would be a free 15% speed boost in combat (45% outside it) without sacrificing anything about your current build. Don’t own Greymoor? Good luck catching up to those who do!

As it is now, you have to make a choice to sacrifice part of your build to wear a mythic item. That puts it in line with other sets locked behind DLC: you need to pay to get access to those sets, but you still have to work within the slot limit even once you have them. It’s a replacement, not an addition, which means much more equal footing for those who have access to the DLC and those who don’t.

It is Good sale Strategy for Zos like the Bag for craftings

You don't need the craft bag for competitive gameplay. No.

zvavi

"sacrifice". They are so strong standalone... If it was non combat bonuses additional slot would have been fine, but as it affects combat... Slot for their own would flip the mythic items that are already on the p2w borders into the middle of the p2w section.

xXMeowMeowXx

TheHsN wrote: »

What about make an another Gear slot for the Mythic Items. And it is going to boost our builds and not destroy 5+2+2 builds. Now players need to sacrifices from items or set buffs.
I think it would be better if we have it like a Rune slot or Mythic Items slot

NO WAY !! They’re pretty strong

That is an understatement tbh. Some Mythic items boost certain builds by a great deal.

They’re already part of the best set ups to rekt peeps. The fact they’re locked behind Greymoor, make the game even more cheesy.

Mythic items add build diversity in a new way. I just don’t see them lasting unscathed for very long. So there is that....

Luke_Flamesword

Mythic item was introduced specialy to destroy 5-5-2 meta nad give players more options to build more diverse builds. There will be not additional slot because it's against that idea.

Mindcr0w

The entire point is that you have to sacrifice something somewhere and make potentially difficult choices to make the items work.

The point is not to just make everyone more powerful across the board at no cost.

J2JMC

I don't understand why people think giving up a set bonus is a downside. First of all, you can technically still run two 5 pieces and a monster helm with a mythic item. You just won't be able to have both 5 pieces active at the same time.

Second, the mythic item bonuses are straight up better than a lot of monster set and 5 piece bonuses. So take a 5 piece set or monster helm that has a weaker bonus, then replace that last piece with the mythic item. Boom. You just upgraded your set, and gave up nothing.

Sephyr

J2JMC wrote: »

I don't understand why people think giving up a set bonus is a downside. First of all, you can technically still run two 5 pieces and a monster helm with a mythic item. You just won't be able to have both 5 pieces active at the same time.

Second, the mythic item bonuses are straight up better than a lot of monster set and 5 piece bonuses. So take a 5 piece set or monster helm that has a weaker bonus, then replace that last piece with the mythic item. Boom. You just upgraded your set, and gave up nothing.

I think my only complaint about the mythics is that I'd love to see some weapons in there too. But I can also see that also knocking out arenas, so if they were to add them; they'd specifically have to be balanced with those in mind being the creme de la creme (aka having Arena weapons more BiS than the mythic ones). As far as it happening? Highly doubt it. That's why the arena weapons come in blues now I'm guessing.

redspecter23

Part of the balancing of the mythic items is that they take up a valuable slot and mess with your other combinations. You work around that disadvantage to get them into your gearset. While they could have a separate slot, it's very likely that the power level would be drastically decreased or else it would just be straight up vertical progression. You would be nerfed somewhere at some point to compensate.

Stx

It is fine the way it is. You are supposed to give up a 5 piece bonus or a monster set bonus in order to get the mythic bonus, they are very powerful.

technohic

Dusk_Coven

How about reworking mythic items into non-combat entirely? It's not like ZOS doesn't have enough problems balancing combat. If they did that, then I can see making a separate slot for Mythics.

Mindcr0w

J2JMC wrote: »

Second, the mythic item bonuses are straight up better than a lot of monster set and 5 piece bonuses. So take a 5 piece set or monster helm that has a weaker bonus, then replace that last piece with the mythic item. Boom. You just upgraded your set, and gave up nothing.

You are literally describing giving up one thing in exchange for another and calling it giving up nothing.

SheepDog_Ty

The mythic items were adjusted specifically for having to lose a five piece to equip them. The new balance idea appears to use this give and take theme and I think they’re good the way they are.

Mindcr0w

Not to mention some come with negative consequences for equipping them.

I mean sure, you might end up with more dps with Thrassian Stranglers than without them, but how many people are going to be able to just slap them on without making significant adjustments to their setup and still survive?

Mettaricana

I prefer the item slot rather than special slot for it...

Also my only gripe is that there arent more mythics on launch and they coulda added some to base game as dungeon drops like gather all the named boss drops for a dungeon to make the mythic and the whatever effect it may be.