New Feature: Ability to Bank Transmute Crystals

Aurrynthea_Drake

I am up to my ears in transmute crystals but know that the minute I start just tossing them I will need them. Why can't they be banked like other currencies with unlimited stacks? At the moment my bag inventory is half uncracked transmute geodes & my stack is at 190/200! Why?

VaranisArano

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

Rave the Histborn

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

Malmai

Bug that makes you get 0 ? This is one of zos stories... [Snip]

[Edited for bashing]

VaranisArano

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

Well, yes. ZOS doesn't intend for transmutation to be the main way for players to get gear in their preferred trait, except for jewelry.

VaranisArano

Malmai wrote: »

Bug that makes you get 0 ? This is one of zos stories... [Snip]
[Edited for bashing]

[Snip]

From the PTS v3.2.1:
"Transmutation Geodes will no longer stack, which was causing an issue where using multiple Transmutation Geodes in quick succession would cause you not to get any Transmute Crystals."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373097/pts-patch-notes-v3-2-1/p1

[Edited for bashing]

Tommy_The_Gun

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

If ZOS thinks that way, then they are kinda de-touched from reality.

You can already stockpile those on an Alt. Yes, you can receive mail-rewards from for example Cyrodiil end Campaign rewards that give 50 Crystals each, and collect them on an Alt. I have one character, used for that purpose.

So their false-limitation system kinda does not work.

idk

Just get rid of the cap. Since we store the geodes, the cap is pointless and absurd. The intentions Zos had with the cap has been rendered moot.

Until Zos finds their way to see how ridiculous the cap is, the best way to store geodes is to keep all the best (from PvP end of campaign rewards) on a bank mule.

TequilaFire

Was profiting from converting crystals to nirncrux, but that seems to have been stealth patched out.

EvilAutoTech

TequilaFire wrote: »

Was profiting from converting crystals to nirncrux, but that seems to have been stealth patched out.

Did it this morning on Xbox. Transmuted 1 dagger and got a nirncrux. Two days ago I transmuted 5 daggers and got 4 nirncrux.

TequilaFire

I usually get good results on PS4 but got skunked the other day on multiple attempts which never happened before.
Will try again.

EvilAutoTech

I've read you get a better chance with higher quality items. The last one I missed on was a level 1 white dagger created by my main crafter. The one I used this morning was CP160 blue that I bought for 150 gold at a trader. Don't know if it actually works or if it's all RNG.

Taleof2Cities

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

If ZOS thinks that way, then they are kinda de-touched from reality.

You can already stockpile those on an Alt. Yes, you can receive mail-rewards from for example Cyrodiil end Campaign rewards that give 50 Crystals each, and collect them on an Alt. I have one character, used for that purpose.

So their false-limitation system kinda does not work.

That's an intended mechanic, @Tommy_The_Gun ... the more transmute geodes you hoard, the harder it is to manage inventory.

Pretty simple when you think about it.

Tsar_Gekkou

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

Lmao, this assumes that you can get all the set pieces you need in 1 dungeon run. As someone who's had to farm Lair of Maarselok for months to get the Zens staffs I needed, it's laughable.

idk

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

If ZOS thinks that way, then they are kinda de-touched from reality.

You can already stockpile those on an Alt. Yes, you can receive mail-rewards from for example Cyrodiil end Campaign rewards that give 50 Crystals each, and collect them on an Alt. I have one character, used for that purpose.

So their false-limitation system kinda does not work.

That's an intended mechanic, @Tommy_The_Gun ... the more transmute geodes you hoard, the harder it is to manage inventory.

Pretty simple when you think about it.

It is a mechanic all right. An asinine cap that does little to stop players from hoarding them.

Rave the Histborn

Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

Lmao, this assumes that you can get all the set pieces you need in 1 dungeon run. As someone who's had to farm Lair of Maarselok for months to get the Zens staffs I needed, it's laughable.

OK, so what if your other set is something purchasable like mother's sorrow. What's stopping you from getting all the armor in 1 run and just switching your jewlery and weapon bars to the other set and transmuting cheap purchased ones?

Mr_Walker

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

Poor logic, PvP on a few characters for a couple of hours each month and you can do that already.

pod88kk

I just don't see why there's a limit on how many you can have, surely they should be like Tel Var, gold and AP and just be bankable

Dracane

Only the divines can fathom why they do not make this an ESO+ feature at least.

Aurrynthea_Drake

Seriously not trying to hoard them but you get so many of them as rewards every day in pvp so they are just piling up in my bag.

Dracane

Aurrynthea_Drake wrote: »

Seriously not trying to hoard them but you get so many of them as rewards every day in pvp so they are just piling up in my bag.

It is as you say. Usually they take away space. But you know when you throw them away, a day later you will suddenly need 350 transmute crystals. And then you have to farm for weeks.

kargen27

idk wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

If ZOS thinks that way, then they are kinda de-touched from reality.

You can already stockpile those on an Alt. Yes, you can receive mail-rewards from for example Cyrodiil end Campaign rewards that give 50 Crystals each, and collect them on an Alt. I have one character, used for that purpose.

So their false-limitation system kinda does not work.

That's an intended mechanic, @Tommy_The_Gun ... the more transmute geodes you hoard, the harder it is to manage inventory.

Pretty simple when you think about it.

It is a mechanic all right. An asinine cap that does little to stop players from hoarding them.

You need to think about what the answer would be if ZoS decided to fix this. MMOs survive by content being repeated. Unlimited crystals would mean less incentive to repeat content. The solution would not be to give unlimited. It would instead change geodes so they can no longer be stored. We have a work around now. if ZoS decides to do a fix it would be to remove the work around.

FrancisCrawford

I keep geodes and anniversary boxes in inventory if they hold 10 crystals or higher. The rest I pop. Not coincidentally, I've transmuted a bunch of weapons and jewelry I've never actually gone on to use. Oh well.

I've even transmuted a body piece or three now, most importantly the shoulders I most commonly wear when queueing for a dungeon.

huntgod_ESO

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

Oh damn, something we agree on :-P

SeaGtGruff

EvilAutoTech wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Was profiting from converting crystals to nirncrux, but that seems to have been stealth patched out.

Did it this morning on Xbox. Transmuted 1 dagger and got a nirncrux. Two days ago I transmuted 5 daggers and got 4 nirncrux.

As far as I know, deconstructing an item with a trait has never been guaranteed to recover the trait material, just as recovery of the style material or quality material has never been guaranteed. Sometimes you get lucky, but sometimes you don't.

Also, I don't think the quality of the item influences how likely you are to recover the trait, style, or quality materials, but there's a passive ability in most of the crafting skill lines that does.

I was thinking it might be smarter to start transmuting jewelry to try to recover expensive trait materials, rather than going for nirncrux.

BackStabeth

Nothing new until what exists is fixed, don't take any labor away from fixing the problems and issues right now, to create something that most people don't need or want.

volkeswagon

i understand not wanting people to hoard transmute crystals but it would be great that if you were full you would get gold or telvar stones instead. Because you get penalized for having 200 by getting nothing for your troubles

Mr_Walker

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

EvilAutoTech wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Was profiting from converting crystals to nirncrux, but that seems to have been stealth patched out.

Did it this morning on Xbox. Transmuted 1 dagger and got a nirncrux. Two days ago I transmuted 5 daggers and got 4 nirncrux.

As far as I know, deconstructing an item with a trait has never been guaranteed to recover the trait material, just as recovery of the style material or quality material has never been guaranteed. Sometimes you get lucky, but sometimes you don't.

Also, I don't think the quality of the item influences how likely you are to recover the trait, style, or quality materials, but there's a passive ability in most of the crafting skill lines that does.

I was thinking it might be smarter to start transmuting jewelry to try to recover expensive trait materials, rather than going for nirncrux.

Tried that, you only get dust. Nirncrux is a better bet.

And before anyone starts crying, I'd guess this is not unintended that you can do this, otherwise these transmutes would be completely useless for a good number of folk.

witchdoctor

And this is why 'Mule for Rotw' was born. She serves well, alongside her fellow battlemaidens, 'Mule for Stamina Gear,' 'Mule for Magicka Gear,' and 'Mule for PVP Gear.'

FrancisCrawford

witchdoctor wrote: »

And this is why 'Mule for Rotw' was born. She serves well, alongside her fellow battlemaidens, 'Mule for Stamina Gear,' 'Mule for Magicka Gear,' and 'Mule for PVP Gear.'

At least you don't have one called Holds-My-Rocks.

Tsar_Gekkou

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

They used to on the PTS. Turns out there was a bug that would cause you to get zero crystals, so ZOS made it so they don't stack.

Also the usual "ZOS makes inventory inconvenient so that ESO+ looks more attractive."

The real reason they don't want you banking the transmutes is they don't want you stockpiling crystals, running a normal dungeon once and transmuting everything

Lmao, this assumes that you can get all the set pieces you need in 1 dungeon run. As someone who's had to farm Lair of Maarselok for months to get the Zens staffs I needed, it's laughable.

OK, so what if your other set is something purchasable like mother's sorrow. What's stopping you from getting all the armor in 1 run and just switching your jewlery and weapon bars to the other set and transmuting cheap purchased ones?

Certain sets work much better either on the body or weapons. It's the reason why people in vSS offer gold and beg for Lokkestiiz weapons and jewelry but aren't tripping all over themselves for a full body set.