Easiest, viable class/rotation for PvP? (disability)

Ragana

Hey guys,

So I have some nerve damage in my left arm so I'm trying to find an easy class/rotation that is still pretty viable in PvP. I only been playing for a couple of weeks so I'm not too heavily invested in anything yet and I'm very open to trying out whatever.

Thanks!

Aedaryl

You should play with a mouse that have 12 buttons on the side.

You could do all your skills, ultimate, bar swap, break free, LA, block, potion taking on the right hand.

Your left hand would be to just move, sprint (maj)/sneak (ctr), then you can attribute the Q (or A if AZERTY) for dodge and E for something else, that way you don't even moove your hand from the base position and when you moove finger, it's for going very close.

The Razer Naga trinity is a good exemple of what I speak about MMO mouse. (they are probably mouses that have the same mechanics but are cheaper though).

Ragana

Aedaryl wrote: »

You should play with a mouse that have 12 buttons on the side.

You could do all your skills, ultimate, bar swap, break free, LA, block, potion taking on the right hand.

Your left hand would be to just move, sprint (maj)/sneak (ctr), then you can attribute the Q (or A if AZERTY) for dodge and E for something else, that way you don't even moove your hand from the base position and when you moove finger, it's for going very close.

The Razer Naga trinity is a good exemple of what I speak about MMO mouse. (they are probably mouses that have the same mechanics but are cheaper though).

I been living with this for years and years and I honestly can't stand using those mice. I play with a G502 and that's worked fairly well for me in WoW ( i played a hunter, which was the easiest class).

Just looking for some advice on what people think the easiest classes in ESO are that are still pretty viable.

Thanks!

Aedaryl

Ragana wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

You should play with a mouse that have 12 buttons on the side.

You could do all your skills, ultimate, bar swap, break free, LA, block, potion taking on the right hand.

Your left hand would be to just move, sprint (maj)/sneak (ctr), then you can attribute the Q (or A if AZERTY) for dodge and E for something else, that way you don't even moove your hand from the base position and when you moove finger, it's for going very close.

The Razer Naga trinity is a good exemple of what I speak about MMO mouse. (they are probably mouses that have the same mechanics but are cheaper though).

I been living with this for years and years and I honestly can't stand using those mice. I play with a G502 and that's worked fairly well for me in WoW ( i played a hunter, which was the easiest class).

Just looking for some advice on what people think the easiest classes in ESO are that are still pretty viable.

Thanks!

Stamina Necromancer is the eaziest class then, it's very tanky and does insane damage, the rotation is quite easy too.

mav1234

Ragana wrote: »

Hey guys,

So I have some nerve damage in my left arm so I'm trying to find an easy class/rotation that is still pretty viable in PvP. I only been playing for a couple of weeks so I'm not too heavily invested in anything yet and I'm very open to trying out whatever.

Thanks!

You could probably find some success with something like a pet mag sorc, but I think it would be hard on you either way. Much more so than PvE, PvP does not have an easy rotation necessarily and it is very much about movement/positioning in addition to hitting the right damaage buttons. Mag sorc is the closest thing to that I think, as you can streak to stay at range etc.

MurderMostFoul

This is the only time it would be appropriate to play as a sniping stamblade.

For NoCP:

Stamina Nightblade
Dark Elf
Vampire
7 Medium with Divine/Impen
2H Clever Alchemist Back Bar only
Bow Marksman's Crest Front Bar only
Agility Jewelry x3 infused weapon damage
1 Monster weapon damage piece (Kena)
Tri Stat food (Sugar Skulls)
Shadow/Warrior Mundus

The above may not be optimal, but it would be easy enough to get, and would enable a pretty easy/effective playstyle.

Get into max snipe range of your target, buff up in stealth on your back bar, popping CA, swap to front bar and spam snipe, hope your target desyncs and drops dead. If anyone gets near you, roll dodge into major expedition on your bow bar, cloak and get away.

Ragana

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

This is the only time it would be appropriate to play as a sniping stamblade.

For NoCP:

Stamina Nightblade
Dark Elf
Vampire
7 Medium with Divine/Impen
2H Clever Alchemist Back Bar only
Bow Marksman's Crest Front Bar only
Agility Jewelry x3 infused weapon damage
1 Monster weapon damage piece (Kena)
Tri Stat food (Sugar Skulls)
Shadow/Warrior Mundus

The above may not be optimal, but it would be easy enough to get, and would enable a pretty easy/effective playstyle.

Get into max snipe range of your target, buff up in stealth on your back bar, popping CA, swap to front bar and spam snipe, hope your target desyncs and drops dead. If anyone gets near you, roll dodge into major expedition on your bow bar, cloak and get away.

Any chance there is a video or a guide for this that can explain some of the stuff?

The 2h- Does that mean staff or just a 2h weap on the weapon swap?
What skills should I be looking into?

Sorry for being a pain. I just looked up sniping stamblades on youtube and I didn't see anything recent.

MurderMostFoul

Ragana wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

This is the only time it would be appropriate to play as a sniping stamblade.

For NoCP:

Stamina Nightblade
Dark Elf
Vampire
7 Medium with Divine/Impen
2H Clever Alchemist Back Bar only
Bow Marksman's Crest Front Bar only
Agility Jewelry x3 infused weapon damage
1 Monster weapon damage piece (Kena)
Tri Stat food (Sugar Skulls)
Shadow/Warrior Mundus

The above may not be optimal, but it would be easy enough to get, and would enable a pretty easy/effective playstyle.

Get into max snipe range of your target, buff up in stealth on your back bar, popping CA, swap to front bar and spam snipe, hope your target desyncs and drops dead. If anyone gets near you, roll dodge into major expedition on your bow bar, cloak and get away.

Any chance there is a video or a guide for this that can explain some of the stuff?

The 2h- Does that mean staff or just a 2h weap on the weapon swap?
What skills should I be looking into?

Sorry for being a pain. I just looked up sniping stamblades on youtube and I didn't see anything recent.

I'm on mobile atm, but later i can link a full build in the build editor.

Ragana

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Ragana wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

This is the only time it would be appropriate to play as a sniping stamblade.

For NoCP:

Stamina Nightblade
Dark Elf
Vampire
7 Medium with Divine/Impen
2H Clever Alchemist Back Bar only
Bow Marksman's Crest Front Bar only
Agility Jewelry x3 infused weapon damage
1 Monster weapon damage piece (Kena)
Tri Stat food (Sugar Skulls)
Shadow/Warrior Mundus

The above may not be optimal, but it would be easy enough to get, and would enable a pretty easy/effective playstyle.

Get into max snipe range of your target, buff up in stealth on your back bar, popping CA, swap to front bar and spam snipe, hope your target desyncs and drops dead. If anyone gets near you, roll dodge into major expedition on your bow bar, cloak and get away.

Any chance there is a video or a guide for this that can explain some of the stuff?

The 2h- Does that mean staff or just a 2h weap on the weapon swap?
What skills should I be looking into?

Sorry for being a pain. I just looked up sniping stamblades on youtube and I didn't see anything recent.

I'm on mobile atm, but later i can link a full build in the build editor.

That sounds great, thank you!

daemonor

Probably a sniping stamblade or a pet sorc like others mentioned. It doesn't really matter if your on the offensive that much, cause you can relax and go about with 1-2 button presses per second, but the real high apm comes when you're trying to deal damage at the same type while taking damage. Dodge rolling/healing/blocking/keeping buffs up and at the same time trying to keep an eye on your ultimate and trying to set up a kill with or without crowd control. In that scenario any class would be very intense and unforgiving, while the top classes would probably just do a better job, but still require just as many button pressess game knowledge and setup.

Edit: you probably mean beast mastery hunter in world of warcraft right? I played both games and as i mentioned above there's not really any difference in the intensity imo, just the top tier classess giving better results doing identical actions to bottom tier classes.

Ragana

daemonor wrote: »

Probably a sniping stamblade or a pet sorc like others mentioned. It doesn't really matter if your on the offensive that much, cause you can relax and go about with 1-2 button presses per second, but the real high apm comes when you're trying to deal damage at the same type while taking damage. Dodge rolling/healing/blocking/keeping buffs up and at the same time trying to keep an eye on your ultimate and trying to set up a kill with or without crowd control. In that scenario any class would be very intense and unforgiving, while the top classes would probably just do a better job, but still require just as many button pressess game knowledge and setup.

Edit: you probably mean beast mastery hunter in world of warcraft right? I played both games and as i mentioned above there's not really any difference in the intensity imo, just the top tier classess giving better results doing identical actions to bottom tier classes.

Yeah, BM hunter.

Like I said, I'm not completely crippled, my arm just goes numb after a while. I was good enough to get to 2100 in arenas/rbgs on WoW so I'm hoping I can do fairly well in ESO.

Any chance you could link me a video to the stamblade or pet sorc on youtube thats up to date so I have something to follow? Thanks!

Deathlord92

Stamcro and templar are very strong easy to play classes imo.

Nirntrotter

Whenever I want to play something that's not exhausting but still decently effective I log onto my magsorc and forcepulse>mages wrath>crystal proc.

Zer0_CooL

Stamblade snipe spam. Its not much fun but verry easy to play.

Ariades_swe

Snipeblade

Noctus

so as u see u have 2 choices

snipeblade or petsorc both are easy to play and can be played with just 1 bar.

u could eventually go for jab templar but tbh its more comfortable playing from distance.

good luck

Goregrinder

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

This is the only time it would be appropriate to play as a sniping stamblade.

For NoCP:

Stamina Nightblade
Dark Elf
Vampire
7 Medium with Divine/Impen
2H Clever Alchemist Back Bar only
Bow Marksman's Crest Front Bar only
Agility Jewelry x3 infused weapon damage
1 Monster weapon damage piece (Kena)
Tri Stat food (Sugar Skulls)
Shadow/Warrior Mundus

The above may not be optimal, but it would be easy enough to get, and would enable a pretty easy/effective playstyle.

Get into max snipe range of your target, buff up in stealth on your back bar, popping CA, swap to front bar and spam snipe, hope your target desyncs and drops dead. If anyone gets near you, roll dodge into major expedition on your bow bar, cloak and get away.

Clever Alchemist requires you to be in combat in order to trigger. SO your opening snipe won't have the +670 wd bonus, but after your first snipe you can bar swap and pop a pot to turn on CA.

MurderMostFoul

Goregrinder wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

This is the only time it would be appropriate to play as a sniping stamblade.

For NoCP:

Stamina Nightblade
Dark Elf
Vampire
7 Medium with Divine/Impen
2H Clever Alchemist Back Bar only
Bow Marksman's Crest Front Bar only
Agility Jewelry x3 infused weapon damage
1 Monster weapon damage piece (Kena)
Tri Stat food (Sugar Skulls)
Shadow/Warrior Mundus

The above may not be optimal, but it would be easy enough to get, and would enable a pretty easy/effective playstyle.

Get into max snipe range of your target, buff up in stealth on your back bar, popping CA, swap to front bar and spam snipe, hope your target desyncs and drops dead. If anyone gets near you, roll dodge into major expedition on your bow bar, cloak and get away.

Clever Alchemist requires you to be in combat in order to trigger. SO your opening snipe won't have the +670 wd bonus, but after your first snipe you can bar swap and pop a pot to turn on CA.

Oh yeah, i remember them making that change now that you mention it, due to gear swapping addons. In BGs, you're in combat alot, even if you aren't fighting, but i agree, the in combat requirement makes it less reliable.

Pauls

Snipe spamming bot but you will get a lot of tbags (which is kinda deserved)

Ragnaroek93

Simple answer is to play the meta which is Stamina necromancer. Use blighted blastbones whenever it's possible, keep your buffs up, keep your healing over time skills up and use dizzy swing (2 handed weapon skill) when there's nothing of the things above to do. Stamina necro is still fairly easy to play and it's the strongest class for PvP right now (not even close tbh).

Not sure about sets, probably something like new moon aco on frontbar only + fury on body pieces and sword and board on backbar. Dunno about next patch but you probably want to use Malacath ring then (unless they nerf it) and maybe black rose dual wield instead of sword and board on your backbar and go heavy armor then (wait for final patch notes for that tho).

Alternatively you can go for stamina warden and play a heavy armor build with also very high weapon dmg and a lot health (30-40k in PvP) which boosts your arctic blast heal. It's the second strongest class right now.

Stop telling him to play some snipe builds which are a complete meme (even marksman is overpowered compared to this and I'm not kidding). ESO isn't a difficult game (rotations are harder than in WoW especially compared to BM or DH and you need a bit more reactive gameplay with block and dodge but on the other hand you need far less knowledge and keybinds in general). Imo you can't do "well" without learning the basics of the game.
Get a good build with the right traits, sets etc. Train against a target dummy, make sure to keep your priority skills, buffs and heals over time up and use your filler abilities in the mean time. Once you can do this you can start to focus on reacting more to opponents etc. That's why I'd recommend Necro and Warden, it's hard to punish you for mistakes (tanky) and meanwhile you can just overwhelm your opponents by paying attention to your priority system without reacting much to your opponents.

Edit: Playing a healbot should work too if you have people to play with or want to focus on battlegrounds (will become much more important with the global healing nerf) but can't help you with builds suggestions here.

Goregrinder

Aedaryl wrote: »

You should play with a mouse that have 12 buttons on the side.

You could do all your skills, ultimate, bar swap, break free, LA, block, potion taking on the right hand.

Your left hand would be to just move, sprint (maj)/sneak (ctr), then you can attribute the Q (or A if AZERTY) for dodge and E for something else, that way you don't even moove your hand from the base position and when you moove finger, it's for going very close.

The Razer Naga trinity is a good exemple of what I speak about MMO mouse. (they are probably mouses that have the same mechanics but are cheaper though).

His question wasn't what PC hardware he should get, it was what an easy spec to PVP with would be for someone with his disability............................................

Commandment

Play templar, you only need 1 button to win.

AmoralOne

Ragana wrote: »

Hey guys,

so I'm trying to find an easy class/rotation that is still pretty viable in PvP.

Thanks!

I would recommend playing a Templar Healer!

Easy set up for you can be:

Race: Breton, Argonian
Class: Templar

Weapons:
Front Bar - Sword and Board
Back Bar - Restoration Staff

Sets:
Sanctuary x5 (This can be changed out for other healing sets obviously)
Hiti x5
Earthgore x2

The rotations on a Templar healer are really easy! A decent bar set up is:

Skills:
Front Bar - Breath of Life, Mist Form, Execute (flex spot), Extended Ritual, Channel Focus, ULT: Solar Prison
Back Bar - Illustrious Healing, Mutagen, Combat Prayer, Orbs, Siege Shield (orbs, siege shield flex spots), ULT: Resto Ult

SebDeTyra

I recommend playing the easiest classes like Templar, stamcro, stamden. Templar spams jabs, and the other 2 spam dizzy and rotate buffs and 1 class skill ( bones and sub ass).

The reason I'm saying this is you can get away with a lot more on these classes as they are tanky but can still dish out damage unlike NB or sorc which have to be tricky and a bit creative to avoid damage and can be 1shot if not prepared/ fast enough to react.

Their game play style also is a lot slower paced so less stressful on your arm.

MurderMostFoul

SebDeTyra wrote: »

...Templar, stamcro, stamden. Templar spams jabs, and the other 2 spam dizzy and rotate buffs and 1 class skill ( bones and sub ass).

If this is how you play these classes, you are doing it wrong.

Really, any melee class is going to require you to be much more active. As melee, you need to be constantly positioning, attacking, and switching to defense on the fly. Playing a ranged damage dealer can be a lot less taxing. You can get into a good spot, try to blow up a couple distant targets, then switch to whatever evasion/escape mechanic you have to get way if trouble comes.

SebDeTyra

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

SebDeTyra wrote: »

...Templar, stamcro, stamden. Templar spams jabs, and the other 2 spam dizzy and rotate buffs and 1 class skill ( bones and sub ass).

If this is how you play these classes, you are doing it wrong.

Really, any melee class is going to require you to be much more active. As melee, you need to be constantly positioning, attacking, and switching to defense on the fly. Playing a ranged damage dealer can be a lot less taxing. You can get into a good spot, try to blow up a couple distant targets, then switch to whatever evasion/escape mechanic you have to get way if trouble comes.

I've played all classes apart from magcro and leveled entirely in Cyro/ bg's and I've found these classes to be by and far the easiest and most forgiving ( templar is the easiest mechanically). Which means say on a sorc, you can tell the good ones from bad very easily, whereas with a good or bad stamden it's harder to tell at 1st as it's pretty simplistic and inherently tanky.

MurderMostFoul

SebDeTyra wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

SebDeTyra wrote: »

...Templar, stamcro, stamden. Templar spams jabs, and the other 2 spam dizzy and rotate buffs and 1 class skill ( bones and sub ass).

If this is how you play these classes, you are doing it wrong.

Really, any melee class is going to require you to be much more active. As melee, you need to be constantly positioning, attacking, and switching to defense on the fly. Playing a ranged damage dealer can be a lot less taxing. You can get into a good spot, try to blow up a couple distant targets, then switch to whatever evasion/escape mechanic you have to get way if trouble comes.

I've played all classes apart from magcro and leveled entirely in Cyro/ bg's and I've found these classes to be by and far the easiest and most forgiving ( stamplar is the easiest mechanically). Which means say on a sorc, you can tell the good ones from bad very easily, whereas with a good or bad stamden it's harder to tell at 1st as it's pretty simplistic and inherently tanky.

Despite his title, I don't think OP is looking for the "easiest' class. My understanding is that hes looking for a classes that can be successful, while not being overly input-intensive. Melee classes require constant reactionary movement, you can play ranged classes somewhat more stationary.

SebDeTyra

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

SebDeTyra wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

SebDeTyra wrote: »

...Templar, stamcro, stamden. Templar spams jabs, and the other 2 spam dizzy and rotate buffs and 1 class skill ( bones and sub ass).

If this is how you play these classes, you are doing it wrong.

Really, any melee class is going to require you to be much more active. As melee, you need to be constantly positioning, attacking, and switching to defense on the fly. Playing a ranged damage dealer can be a lot less taxing. You can get into a good spot, try to blow up a couple distant targets, then switch to whatever evasion/escape mechanic you have to get way if trouble comes.

I've played all classes apart from magcro and leveled entirely in Cyro/ bg's and I've found these classes to be by and far the easiest and most forgiving ( stamplar is the easiest mechanically). Which means say on a sorc, you can tell the good ones from bad very easily, whereas with a good or bad stamden it's harder to tell at 1st as it's pretty simplistic and inherently tanky.

Despite his title, I don't think OP is looking for the "easiest' class. My understanding is that hes looking for a classes that can be successful, while not being overly input-intensive. Melee classes require constant reactionary movement, you can play ranged classes somewhat more stationary.

I was coming at the viewpoint of getting hit due to slow reactions or getting cramp etc. On a nightblade you're pretty much dead if you're caught, same on a sorc, whereas you can be slow to react with stamden for example because of powerful healing, tankyness from heavy armour/ ice fortress/ passives, passive purge and sustain in one button every 30secs or so and still recover pretty easily.

Rhaegar75

Magicka sorcerer: great mobility that gets you out of sticky situations, shields and good resistance, good damage; you could also go zoo wild and generate an army of irritating pets
easiest class in the game in my opinion

Ragnaroek93

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

SebDeTyra wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

SebDeTyra wrote: »

...Templar, stamcro, stamden. Templar spams jabs, and the other 2 spam dizzy and rotate buffs and 1 class skill ( bones and sub ass).

If this is how you play these classes, you are doing it wrong.

Really, any melee class is going to require you to be much more active. As melee, you need to be constantly positioning, attacking, and switching to defense on the fly. Playing a ranged damage dealer can be a lot less taxing. You can get into a good spot, try to blow up a couple distant targets, then switch to whatever evasion/escape mechanic you have to get way if trouble comes.

I've played all classes apart from magcro and leveled entirely in Cyro/ bg's and I've found these classes to be by and far the easiest and most forgiving ( stamplar is the easiest mechanically). Which means say on a sorc, you can tell the good ones from bad very easily, whereas with a good or bad stamden it's harder to tell at 1st as it's pretty simplistic and inherently tanky.

Despite his title, I don't think OP is looking for the "easiest' class. My understanding is that hes looking for a classes that can be successful, while not being overly input-intensive. Melee classes require constant reactionary movement, you can play ranged classes somewhat more stationary.

Stamden and Stamcro are actually so tanky that you don't need to play reactionary at all. And even if you're bad on them you'll still do better than a snipe build does in BGs and duels (the only exception is zerging). OP said that he reached 2,1k in WoW and therefore I'm pretty sure that he will have no issues at all to do well on Stamcro/Stamden.

MurderMostFoul

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Stamden and Stamcro are actually so tanky that you don't need to play reactionary at all.

That's a bit of a stretch. Also, the reactionary I was primarily referring to is the need to stay properly positioned and maintain your target in response to their movements at close range in order to keep up your offensive pressure.