Tavern Games System.

Thevampirenight

I think it was talked about During that German Stream where Rich Translated in English. A while back, when they were talking about the Antiquities system. That such a system could Potentially lead into adding Tavern Games.
Using the Mobile model, is pretty smart for one it might save up a lot of resources, another is that it might not be as stressful for the servers.
There is a lot of potential with it.
I think Zenimax could add in unique player activities with it. Like pvp board games. Along with adding unique lore Games that the people of Tamriel might play in Taverns. There is a lot of unique stuff they could do with it.
Also brawling, in Skyrim you could brawl with npcs. Just fists, would like to see npcs you can fight, a system where armor buffs, cp points and weapons are disabled for a time bringing you into fist mode. Having to fight npcs and players in brawls and being equal stat wise because all that would be disabled that way its fair and anyone could win in a brawl npc or player. Unlike the Dueling system. Which should be made illegal in Taverns, The Brawling system would be allowed. Maybe npcs can even cheer on the fist fights. The reason for this is to add more immersion. More stuff for the roleplaying aspects of the game. A focus on Roleplaying systems. Meant for General Tavern Rp.
I think it would be neat if they could focus on the Roleplayer side of things. Give us content and stuff to use for role playing purposes.

A Tavern Game system would be a neat way they can go about adding that type of content. Certain zones could have their unique tavern games. Maybe some of the Tavern games would be colored to align with certain alliances so some games might have the ep emblem or the dc emblem or the ad emblem.
So I think there is a lot of potential with a Tavern game system and i think its something that Rich Lambert was interested in.
So I think the Antiquities system could lead into something unique. Games within the game. They could even be furnishing options so you can add these games so they can be played in ones house invite friends over and have a good time, Drink ale, play card games or other types of board games right inside your own house or another players house.
So I think there is a lot of potential with a tavern games system and would make things feel more alive immersion wise. It would neat to see such a system and built solely for roleplaying purposes. That would be very nice indeed. Even Non Roleplayers could even play the Tavern games if they wanted to kill the time if they wanted too. So I think it would be a nice addition to the game.

Hamish999

Good god no. "Tavern games" are always awful. I want to play the actual game, not play some crap made up [snip] and I'd rather the developers used their time to create more actual game content, not some [snip] pazaak knock off.

[edited for profanity]

Thevampirenight

Hamish999 wrote: »

Good god no. "Tavern games" are always awful. I want to play the actual game, not play some crap made up [snip] and I'd rather the developers used their time to create more actual game content, not some [snip] pazaak knock off.

This would be game content.
There is always a lot of things they can do. Add in and improve the game, antiquities system isn't everyones cup of tea but its unique.
So there is many cool features they could add into the game overall.
Of course Performance should be taken as first priority and once they get that down then do all kinds of stuff like this and other systems, maybe even make a form of spell crafting that is balanced. Along with maybe adding in playable Sea Elves.
So there is many things they could do and it would be nice to see the Devs come up with all kinds of new features and content.

VocalThought

Thevampirenight wrote: »

I think it was talked about During that German Stream where Rich Translated in English. A while back, when they were talking about the Antiquities system. That such a system could Potentially lead into adding Tavern Games.
Using the Mobile model, is pretty smart for one it might save up a lot of resources, another is that it might not be as stressful for the servers.
There is a lot of potential with it.
I think Zenimax could add in unique player activities with it. Like pvp board games. Along with adding unique lore Games that the people of Tamriel might play in Taverns. There is a lot of unique stuff they could do with it.
Also brawling, in Skyrim you could brawl with npcs. Just fists, would like to see npcs you can fight, a system where armor buffs, cp points and weapons are disabled for a time bringing you into fist mode. Having to fight npcs and players in brawls and being equal stat wise because all that would be disabled that way its fair and anyone could win in a brawl npc or player. Unlike the Dueling system. Which should be made illegal in Taverns, The Brawling system would be allowed. Maybe npcs can even cheer on the fist fights. The reason for this is to add more immersion. More stuff for the roleplaying aspects of the game. A focus on Roleplaying systems. Meant for General Tavern Rp.
I think it would be neat if they could focus on the Roleplayer side of things. Give us content and stuff to use for role playing purposes.

A Tavern Game system would be a neat way they can go about adding that type of content. Certain zones could have their unique tavern games. Maybe some of the Tavern games would be colored to align with certain alliances so some games might have the ep emblem or the dc emblem or the ad emblem.
So I think there is a lot of potential with a Tavern game system and i think its something that Rich Lambert was interested in.
So I think the Antiquities system could lead into something unique. Games within the game. They could even be furnishing options so you can add these games so they can be played in ones house invite friends over and have a good time, Drink ale, play card games or other types of board games right inside your own house or another players house.
So I think there is a lot of potential with a tavern games system and would make things feel more alive immersion wise. It would neat to see such a system and built solely for roleplaying purposes. That would be very nice indeed. Even Non Roleplayers could even play the Tavern games if they wanted to kill the time if they wanted too. So I think it would be a nice addition to the game.

I actually like it in Fable, but I would steer clear away from any type of gambling in a game like this. ESO is already very immersive. We don't need anything to hold up a party, because someone to drunk and can't leave the table "in character", but in real life the battling gaming and gambling addiction. Especially when people start losing and start using real money to buy crown point to bet the farm. It already hard enough to find a good tank. Next thing you know, the party will be delayed to slay the dragon because the over slept or got lost in a brothel.

chris25602

honestly i always hated 'mini-games' in rpgs until...witcher 3 and gwent. the main issue is that most mini game systems are not thought out or envisioned as unimportant. card / board games are hard to do right. If say zos introduced elder scrolls legends as an in-game multiplayer game with a balanced deck building mechanic id be a thousand percent in on it.

Grandesdar

I would love to see them bring TES Legends to in-game taverns. Or some other mini games. It's always optional, folk, if you don't like mini games, simply don't play them.

chris25602

i think the most daunting task is how to build the card bulding/gathering into the eso world...would love to hear ideas

barney2525

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Hamish999 wrote: »

Good god no. "Tavern games" are always awful. I want to play the actual game, not play some crap made up [snip] and I'd rather the developers used their time to create more actual game content, not some [snip] pazaak knock off.

This would be game content.
There is always a lot of things they can do. Add in and improve the game, antiquities system isn't everyones cup of tea but its unique.
So there is many cool features they could add into the game overall.
Of course Performance should be taken as first priority and once they get that down then do all kinds of stuff like this and other systems, maybe even make a form of spell crafting that is balanced. Along with maybe adding in playable Sea Elves.
So there is many things they could do and it would be nice to see the Devs come up with all kinds of new features and content.

Disagree.

Game content is anything that gains something for the character, be it achievements, or treasure, or xp, etc.

Mucking around in a tavern, boxing npcs, playing board games is the epitome of just wasting time, doing nothing. That is not content.

I would not mind taverns in major cities, as social spots where the characters can eat and drink and players can just unwind, maybe listen to music, and just chat. There are times when people just want to take a break. But taking a break does not mean getting involved in something superfluous that requires skills. This is Not content. This Is 'I just want to hang out for awhile '.

IMHO

chris25602

barney2525 wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Hamish999 wrote: »

Good god no. "Tavern games" are always awful. I want to play the actual game, not play some crap made up [snip] and I'd rather the developers used their time to create more actual game content, not some [snip] pazaak knock off.

This would be game content.
There is always a lot of things they can do. Add in and improve the game, antiquities system isn't everyones cup of tea but its unique.
So there is many cool features they could add into the game overall.
Of course Performance should be taken as first priority and once they get that down then do all kinds of stuff like this and other systems, maybe even make a form of spell crafting that is balanced. Along with maybe adding in playable Sea Elves.
So there is many things they could do and it would be nice to see the Devs come up with all kinds of new features and content.

Disagree.

Game content is anything that gains something for the character, be it achievements, or treasure, or xp, etc.

Mucking around in a tavern, boxing npcs, playing board games is the epitome of just wasting time, doing nothing. That is not content.

I would not mind taverns in major cities, as social spots where the characters can eat and drink and players can just unwind, maybe listen to music, and just chat. There are times when people just want to take a break. But taking a break does not mean getting involved in something superfluous that requires skills. This is Not content. This Is 'I just want to hang out for awhile '.

IMHO

a card game system would add a new vector for a character to advance. you might see it as a a waste of time but other people will be competitive about it...just like cyro don't come if you dont want to play

MJallday

When I first read this title thread I was thinking “pac man” or “Noel Edmonds dealnor no deal” 😂

Rezdayn

Hamish999 wrote: »

Good god no. "Tavern games" are always awful. I want to play the actual game, not play some crap made up bollocks and I'd rather the developers used their time to create more actual game content, not some shite pazaak knock off.

Then dont play the tavern games... If you dont like trials... dont play trials... if you dont like x dont do x...

barney2525 wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Hamish999 wrote: »

Good god no. "Tavern games" are always awful. I want to play the actual game, not play some crap made up [snip] and I'd rather the developers used their time to create more actual game content, not some [snip] pazaak knock off.

This would be game content.
There is always a lot of things they can do. Add in and improve the game, antiquities system isn't everyones cup of tea but its unique.
So there is many cool features they could add into the game overall.
Of course Performance should be taken as first priority and once they get that down then do all kinds of stuff like this and other systems, maybe even make a form of spell crafting that is balanced. Along with maybe adding in playable Sea Elves.
So there is many things they could do and it would be nice to see the Devs come up with all kinds of new features and content.

Disagree.

Game content is anything that gains something for the character, be it achievements, or treasure, or xp, etc.

Mucking around in a tavern, boxing npcs, playing board games is the epitome of just wasting time, doing nothing. That is not content.

I would not mind taverns in major cities, as social spots where the characters can eat and drink and players can just unwind, maybe listen to music, and just chat. There are times when people just want to take a break. But taking a break does not mean getting involved in something superfluous that requires skills. This is Not content. This Is 'I just want to hang out for awhile '.

IMHO

It literally is content.

And now for my opinion...

I think some tavern games would be awesome. I would love to play some kind of poker/eso styled poker variant and be able to play for gold vs other players. However this community has some weird complex against mini games and defiantly against anything that stakes gold vs other players. Its like this community doesn't understand you can chose to do or not do something... Prime example quoted above.

I remember runescape had an arena in which you could challenge other players and stake gold vs each other. I suck at pvp in eso (lucky you can get emperor without being good lol) so I would never go but it would make great content/videos/streams and would be awesome to watch.

I would rather stick to some eso styled tavern betting games.

Either way this would be content (no idea why people would say it isnt...) and I think it would be awesome. I personally would find it boring if you only vsed the house or npcs BUT it would still be content. Just not content I would care about.

Come on ESO devs bring in the micro to high stakes tavern games with a rake to induce gold sink. I would laugh at how easy ROI would be vs other people lol.