Essentieal Housing Tools virus??

Thicclady

I tried to install Essential Housing Tools Community Update exe file, and Kaspersky blocked it and actually restarted computer to delete it. Either it is virus or so bad programming that would not suggest anyone to use software like that on computer.

https://ibb.co/vmyLRCg

CyberOnEso

It almost certainly isn't a virus, it'll just be your anti virus software not knowing the source of the application.
The developer of the addon does work for ZOS as a user interface engineer, they aren't going to be trying to do anything malicious.

Thicclady

CyberOnEso wrote: »

just be your anti virus software not knowing the source of the application.

That is not the reason.

Kaspersky is one of the best antivirus software and you have to actually manage to do pretty bad coding to get it noticed as trojan even.

TheImperfect

Thicclady wrote: »

CyberOnEso wrote: »

just be your anti virus software not knowing the source of the application.

That is not the reason.

Kaspersky is one of the best antivirus software and you have to actually manage to do pretty bad coding to get it noticed as trojan even.

I had this issue and even sent a ticket to Kaspersky who said they had fixed it but it doesn't seem so, they had me send the files for analysis. I suggest contacting Kaspersky for your own peace of mind as you can't trust some random person on the internet and it might get them to fix it permanently.They did tell me it was safe though.

Thicclady

mrsrobot wrote: »

Thicclady wrote: »

CyberOnEso wrote: »

just be your anti virus software not knowing the source of the application.

That is not the reason.

Kaspersky is one of the best antivirus software and you have to actually manage to do pretty bad coding to get it noticed as trojan even.

I had this issue and even sent a ticket to Kaspersky who said they had fixed it but it doesn't seem so, they had me send the files for analysis. I suggest contacting Kaspersky for your own peace of mind as you can't trust some random person on the internet and it might get them to fix it permanently.They did tell me it was safe though.

Yes nice, I am kind of expecting to developer of addon to do something.

VaranisArano

Thicclady wrote: »

mrsrobot wrote: »

Thicclady wrote: »

CyberOnEso wrote: »

just be your anti virus software not knowing the source of the application.

That is not the reason.

Kaspersky is one of the best antivirus software and you have to actually manage to do pretty bad coding to get it noticed as trojan even.

I had this issue and even sent a ticket to Kaspersky who said they had fixed it but it doesn't seem so, they had me send the files for analysis. I suggest contacting Kaspersky for your own peace of mind as you can't trust some random person on the internet and it might get them to fix it permanently.They did tell me it was safe though.

Yes nice, I am kind of expecting to developer of addon to do something.

If that's what you expect, you should probably let the add-on author know. If you haven't done so, you should leave a comment on the download page or give feedback as instructed at the bottom of their ESO UI page: https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1959-EssentialHousingTools.html

Thicclady

VaranisArano wrote: »

Thicclady wrote: »

mrsrobot wrote: »

Thicclady wrote: »

CyberOnEso wrote: »

just be your anti virus software not knowing the source of the application.

That is not the reason.

Kaspersky is one of the best antivirus software and you have to actually manage to do pretty bad coding to get it noticed as trojan even.

I had this issue and even sent a ticket to Kaspersky who said they had fixed it but it doesn't seem so, they had me send the files for analysis. I suggest contacting Kaspersky for your own peace of mind as you can't trust some random person on the internet and it might get them to fix it permanently.They did tell me it was safe though.

Yes nice, I am kind of expecting to developer of addon to do something.

If that's what you expect, you should probably let the add-on author know. If you haven't done so, you should leave a comment on the download page or give feedback as instructed at the bottom of their ESO UI page: https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1959-EssentialHousingTools.html

Yes I sent him private message before making this thread.

MilkJugg24

Even the best anti-virus software applications end up with false-positives. When it comes to using 3rd-party software to enhance your experience, it is up to the end-user to choose whether or not you trust the developer of that software. I have been using add-ons and mods for games for countless games over the years, many of which triggered my anti-virus.

Even with my anti-virus going crazy over some of the files, I trusted the developers knowing the risk and added exceptions for them. I'm not making this decision for you. I am simply stating that just because a computer says something is bad, doesn't mean that the developer is out to get you. Given how ESO is a fairly mid-low population title, and home-building is a much less popular tool as opposed to something like Master Merchant, it might be a bit much to say that it is in fact malware.

Thicclady

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MilkJugg24 wrote: »

Even the best anti-virus software applications end up with false-positives.
Even with my anti-virus going crazy over some of the files, I trusted the developers knowing the risk and added exceptions for them. I'm not making this decision for you. I am simply stating that just because a computer says something is bad, doesn't mean that the developer is out to get you..

Just posted this to inform the developer, maybe it reaches him through here, because haven't answered through esoui.

Sure they have false positives, but this one references to autorun and most certainly don't want any crap running without my knowledge even it is with "good intentions".

tim99

if i would be the developer of a free addon and someone would "expect" me to change something, i would ***** (self cencored for violating community rules).
But i know him a bit, and unfortunately he is waaaaay too nice, always tried to answer and help even for the most stupid questions and requests.

I understand your point to not trust unknown software, really, but just because of the way you phrased it, the answer MUST be "[snip] off, take it or leave it"

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Thicclady

tim99 wrote: »

if i would be the developer of a free addon and someone would "expect" me to change something, i would ***** (self cencored for violating community rules).
But i know him a bit, and unfortunately he is waaaaay too nice, always tried to answer and help even for the most stupid questions and requests.

I understand your point to not trust unknown software, really, but just because of the way you phrased it, the answer MUST be "[snip] off, take it or leave it"

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You are right. That is the attitude all over, that is why 99.9% of open source stuff is bad.

HawkFest

I didn't have any virus detection issue with this addon since I've installed it a month ago. However... After patch 29, two addon updates were installed via "minion". Yesterday, and then this morning. Yesterday's update didn't have the following problem which only appeared after this morning's update : now my anti-virus (Kaspersky) detects the optional tool, "essentialhousingcommunity.exe", as having PDM:Trojan.Win32.Generic, and asks me to disinfect and restart or try to disinfect without a computer restart.

Some say generic stuff as a reason (what we'd wish for), like "false positive", or "hey he's a good person I know him since he's nice on the surface" etc. and whatnot... But: 1st I never judge a book by its "nice" cover; 2nd since my antivirus did not detect it as having some threat issue before the latest update (this morning's update), then I simply cannot trust this addon.

I've posted a message on ESOUI's addon feedback page, we'll see if the author will do something about this, or at least give an answer... In the mean time, I'd suggest to simply remove (let the antivirus do its repair job) the essentialhousingcommunity.exe tool.

HawkFest

In reference to my previous post:

SirAndy

I've met Kaspersky in person twice during business meetings.

I will never install anything on my computer that comes from a company that is associated with him.

That's all i'm going to say about the subject.

HawkFest

SirAndy wrote: »

I've met Kaspersky in person twice during business meetings.

I will never install anything on my computer that comes from a company that is associated with him.

That's all i'm going to say about the subject.

Well this is out of topic then... "Kaspersky Anti-virus" is a well-known and reputable anti-virus. Always among the tops on benchmarks. For me it's a piece of software, not a person, and it has protected my PC flawlessly since many years. Now if you have something to say about the person, say it: I don't know you personally either. Else it'd be mere slandering. There are people I like and that you like, as much as those that I like but you don't like and vice-versa: it's irrelevant.

If it is a false positive, then the Author should mention it. Or reverse to what made the previous update not to trigger the security flag in regards to a potential threat. It's not like if it'd be an utterly complicated endeavor... Security is a very serious issue and considered as such by most people (everybody as a matter of fact), way more than some internal bug.

HawkFest

By the way... After visiting the feedback thread on ESOUI, I've noticed it's also been confirmed by others (an update suddenly triggering a security threat), and the Author doesn't answer to any question about it, which is quite odd.

WiseSky

HawkFest wrote: »

By the way... After visiting the feedback thread on ESOUI, I've noticed it's also been confirmed by others (an update suddenly triggering a security threat), and the Author doesn't answer to any question about it, which is quite odd.

McAfee AntiVirus Plus says its ok

Bitdefender Antivirus Plus says its ok

Webroot says its ok

Norton AntiVirus Plus says its ok

all are a well-known and reputable anti-virus software

Always have more then 1 Anti Virus program for best results.

Here are posts of people having the same problem with Kaspersky, making false positives

"Kaspersky Anti-virus" says Microsoft Visual Studio is a security threat

"Kaspersky Anti-virus" says Office from Microsoft is a security threat

"Kaspersky Anti-virus" says Blizzard's Heroes of the Storm is a security threat

Please provide evidence of what exactly the "threat" is doing on your computer that makes is malicious.

TheImperfect

ignore

HawkFest

I came back to mention that everything is ok now: the latest update doesn't trigger any potential threat notification. Thanks!

Seminolegirl1992

Cardinal is probably the nicest human on the planet. I trust his addon is virus free.

newtinmpls

I can't get essential housing to work at all for me. It keeps saying "install or enable and reloadui" and I have done that many times at this point.

Any suggestions, or known addons it doesn't play nicely with?