666

Darkstorne

Thevampirenight wrote: »

. In the end it is a number. Maybe not the best of numbers out there but still a number.

All numbers are just numbers. If some humans want to believe certain numbers are magical or demonic or lucky or unlucky, that's their weird problem. But there's nothing special about any number. Except perhaps pi

Glurin

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

They could always go 777 and maybe they should cap it at that.

Oh, so now you want to encourage gambling?

777 is used in casinos from what I understand because its considered a lucky number. But its more then that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/777_(number)
Many religions consider 3 and 7 to be holy 777 is also considered to be the number of the trinity.

Ah HA! So not only gambling, but indoctrination as well! You've shown your true colors now. Admit it. You're actually working with the Illuminati to secretly lower everyone's mental defenses so the mind control ray will work more efficiently, aren't you.

Well if they are going to use a value why not use a lucky one given how hard it is to get those weapons what would be considered an unlucky number? I also edited that one post above to say they could use 888, 999 or 555 as well. So they don't need to do 777 but well surely 777,888,999 would be better. As you could get more from it. or less with 555.

Honestly I don't actually care. A number is a number. Context is what gives it meaning. What I do care about is that there are a lot of people who have gone out of their way to label certain numbers (surprisingly, or perhaps not surprisingly, NOT the number 666) as inherently bad in one way or another. Often with reasoning that just boggles the mind to try and sort through. They've even gone so far as to declare math itself as racist and that it must be altered so as to not offend them or the people they claim to represent.

When you go that far then what you get is, well, gobbledygook. Simple communication becomes nearly impossible, let alone anything that requires mathematical precision.

Toanis

Am I the only one old enough to see the title and immediately have the Maiden song in the head?

Seriously, this is a game where you directly deal with entities that are meddling "heathen" gods at best, demons at worst, where your ally in the main story is a fallen divine being associated with light (a 'lightbringer' if you will) and the main thing you worry about is a number?

(Btw: In many original (3rd century) greek texts it was ΧΙϚ= 616, but of course 666 looks much more mythical in indian/arabian numbers as well as roman ones (DCLXVI - every value below 1000 used once in decreasing order.)

Mr_Walker

What about 668? The Neighbour of the Beast!

aaisoaho

Instructions unclear, executed order 66 instead.

Jokes aside, I'm not sure this is a good idea. You can end up in 666 via multiple ways and thus you'd need to remove almost every number to prevent getting 666 as the total. (66 + 600 = 666,need to remove 66 and 600 to prevent it, 65 * 10 + 16 = 666, you'd need to remove those too) Or you'd need to add unneccessary if-checks and round the number up or down to prevent the 666 from appearing.

colossalvoids

Yeah erase all the black cats also, number 13 related everything, magic circles all the words about devil and rituals, it hurts muh immersion!

Sincerely Aleister Crowley, a simple necromancer.

SydneyGrey

Never mind, I probably should keep my mouth shut.

Khrogo

Clone4423 wrote: »

I don't feel it is appropriate to have the value 666 in item sets. Just me?

Let me guess, you only play Templars? The only ungodly thing about this game is the number of hours people put into it.

Bradyfjord

Numbers are only reference points on a theoretical scale. There are infinite points in this scale, so it seems silly to focus on one particular point and decide you don't like it.

Rontabs77

Clone4423 wrote: »

I don't feel it is appropriate to have the value 666 in item sets. Just me?

That is why I have double seven in my handle. It's for countering the effect of that number.

Noxavian

Thevampirenight wrote: »

MattT1988 wrote: »

LOL this is going to be a fun thread.

I think its going to get deleted but well hopefully Zenimax will go through it and maybe see that connection that people are making with that number and maybe realize its not the best idea but they don;t have to do that and they can just keep it how it is. All I'm saying is the op does have a point in a way. Though I do understand other points people are saying here. In the end it is a number. Maybe not the best of numbers out there but still a number.

Maybe it's going to get deleted because it isn't a real issue and anyone, including yourself, that thinks this OP has a point doesn't need to be on the internet.

Offended by a number.

Sweet jesus.

Banana

Performance first zos

Thevampirenight

Noxavian wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

MattT1988 wrote: »

LOL this is going to be a fun thread.

I think its going to get deleted but well hopefully Zenimax will go through it and maybe see that connection that people are making with that number and maybe realize its not the best idea but they don;t have to do that and they can just keep it how it is. All I'm saying is the op does have a point in a way. Though I do understand other points people are saying here. In the end it is a number. Maybe not the best of numbers out there but still a number.

Maybe it's going to get deleted because it isn't a real issue and anyone, including yourself, that thinks this OP has a point doesn't need to be on the internet.

Offended by a number.

Sweet jesus.

Well that is fine with me, its just a post.
Its their forums and so I'm just responding to the thread.

JamuThatsWho

Am I the only one who hates it when people make posts asking "am I the only one?"

Yeah, on a planet of 8 billion, you're the only person who *insert thing*... 🙄

RefLiberty

Banana wrote: »

Performance first zos

And no more nerfs. If it will be changed, it has to be 667, not 665.

Nord_Raseri

ZOS also uses many symbols from pagan religions, in ways that are not their meaning. Should I demand they change them?

Lysette

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Yeah its kinda weird they use that number and maybe should change it to another one. 667 because of superstitions associated with it along with religious ones.

But 666 refers to imperator Nero - and has nothing to do with religion.

doomette

JamuThatsWho wrote: »

Am I the only one who hates it when people make posts asking "am I the only one?"

Yeah, on a planet of 8 billion, you're the only person who *insert thing*... 🙄

With every fabric of my being.

Cerotonin

Hail Sithis.

Woeler

It's 2020 and people still stuck in 1020 lmao

CassandraGemini

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Look around the game. Many things amount to either 666 or 666 dodge numbers like 665 or 660.
Lots of experience gain, AP gain and also resistences. 66 crit resistence is 1% and 660 armor is 1%.

You find alot of 666 in this game. I do not think this is a coincidence anymore. But I like it.

Still I do think that well though its just a number , many consider it to be the sign of the devil or the antichrist. That is why I think they should avoid appearing like they like that number.

So why exactly should they appear like they believe things like the devil or antichrist even exist? Do you really think it's a good idea for a company to take that stance just to appeal to a small minority of (and I hope I'm allowed to say this here, because I really think it's appropriate in this context) religious fanatics?

Thevampirenight wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

So, if we remove the number 666 from game, we should remove all the black cats, the number 13, gay couple NPC's, all witchcraft references, all demon references, dark magic,....... oh, wait, that is the whole game! Lmao!

On a serious note, respect to others religious beliefs and superstitions should be honored, but this is a fantasy game and if anyone feels uncomfortable playing due to religious ideologies, perhaps they shouldn't play as all people don't have the same views.
Just my 2 drakes...
Huzzah and Blessed Be'......

Well given the number is considered one that gives an unpleasent fate there is people that do fear it for that reason. 13 is just considered unlucky and black cats are just black cats they are innocent and get unfairly treated. They can leave it how it is though but yeah I think I wasn't the only one thinking it was weird they were using that number of all the numbers.

Oh, so black cats are just black cats, but some numbers are ACTUALLY unlucky or "evil"? Wow, mate, you're really losing me here. Are you really serious about all that?

Gee, this thread is almost unbelievable to me. I'm all for letting everyone believe (or not believe) in whatever they want, so long as they don't hurt anybody else doing it, but to support this weird kind of superstition is really taking it too far.

bearbelly

Clone4423 wrote: »

I don't feel it is appropriate to have the value 666 in item sets. Just me?

Just you.

I have co-workers who do this when we are taking measurements in the lab. They will freaking flip if the number comes up as 6.66.
They will refuse to write down that number; attempting to fudge the result on the data sheet.
I dismiss them from the task and send them out on the floor to do visual inspections. And they only get so many chances to do their job correctly before they are simply canned.

It's supposed to be an extremely precise (down to 1 micron), scientific measurement. The number is what it is.
You don't fudge numbers because of religious mumbo-jumbo.

bearbelly

Noxavian wrote: »

Sweet jesus.

Ironic that you use that phrase in this particular (soon to be deleted) discussion.

Nairinhe

Oh, some time ago there was someone who insisted that Ouroboros is a satanic symbol. Evil, evil game

NeillMcAttack

It’s most likely a more calculable number which aids in reducing additional processing power, at least I would hope that is taken into account.

And for the record, why would anyone that doesn’t believe such nonsense, be expected to respect it. That is intellectually dishonest. Do we have to respect others disdain for tattoo’s as well? Or shell fish!? Or that women should never question a man? It’s either all nonsense that can be questioned and even ridiculed or it isn’t.

Nightowl_74

Everstorm wrote: »

This can't go on!
I must inform the law!

Can this still be real?
Or some crazy dream?

MartiniDaniels

I read this when I was 10 years old, after that I was never afraid of 666
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Bucky_13

Clone4423 wrote: »

I don't feel it is appropriate to have the value 666 in item sets. Just me?

At one point, I was making an ad for a church in a paper where I lived. After realizing I needed a font size between 6-7, I settled on setting the font size at 6.66. It looked perfect and made their ad look really nice.

Also, if you're serious and it's not a troll post, I won't do face palm because the amount of face palming needed would probably give me a concussion...

Ectheliontnacil

Clone4423 wrote: »

I don't feel it is appropriate to have the value 666 in item sets. Just me?

No problem using it for the title though?

NeillMcAttack

Glurin wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

It’s most likely a more calculable number which aids in reducing additional processing power, at least I would hope that is taken into account.

And for the record, why would anyone that doesn’t believe such nonsense, be expected to respect it. That is intellectually dishonest. Do we have to respect others disdain for tattoo’s as well? Or shell fish!? Or that women should never question a man? It’s either all nonsense that can be questioned and even ridiculed or it isn’t.

You are expected to respect it because doing so is conducive to a civil society and it's the right thing to do. However, there's a difference between respecting a belief and embracing a belief. Unfortunately that's a distinction that seems to be lost on people these days.

All it really boils down to though is "Don't be a ***.".

Where is the civility in denouncing homosexuality? Or seeing women as beneath men? It’s uncivilised to suggest other people’s opinions have any basis in reality, to suggest that these kinds of beliefs or teachings hold any weight in a civilised society is not just intellectually dishonest, it is down right cruel to anyone who has been made a victim of hate based on these ridiculous “beliefs”. Civility and religious teachings are not compatible, at least not if you are to take them literally.