Should non perfected gear have a "path to perfection" through the antiquities system? Poll..

Knowledge

xaraan

No.

No.

1. that just let's people now running nMA easily get perfected making it even less worthwhile of an accomplishment. I don't think we should be looking for reasons to not encourage people to try harder content and improve. (Though I see nothing wrong with the option of a player that just doesn't care about that having access to a slightly lesser version).

2. nothing should be locked behind antiquities IMO. It's a horribly designed little mobile mini game that's designed to make people re-do the same activities over and over again behind an RNG puzzle that took them no work past the initial interface to design. It's not the system we were teased in the preview long ago IMO. You aren't going to see a lot of players into end game trials are pvp that crossover into loving antiquities and the amount of time and 30 skill point investment it takes to grind it out. I think those into casual activities will enjoy it, but already seeing people that hate the system complain about a unique rune type and gear locked behind it.

Leeched

No.

My god, stop already with all those senseless polls, asking for nerfs of stuff just cause you are too lazy to actually 'git gut'. If you would spend half the amount of time ingame, learning to play instead of making those stupid polls, you'd be one of the top 10 players...

Vercingetorix

Yes, I think we should be able to improve our weapons through the antiquities system just like finding mythic items!

Antiquities needs long-term value. Most of the mythic items shown are not really worth using outside of highly specific scenarios. The Malacath ring is pretty much the only decent one and it’s only good for PvP. Antiques is a content island that will immediately dry up in a few months once people max the skill out. Adding something like your suggestion gives players a carrot to chase and adds value to the system.

Knowledge

Yes, I think we should be able to improve our weapons through the antiquities system just like finding mythic items!

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Antiquities needs long-term value. Most of the mythic items shown are not really worth using outside of highly specific scenarios. The Malacath ring is pretty much the only decent one and it’s only good for PvP. Antiques is a content island that will immediately dry up in a few months once people max the skill out. Adding something like your suggestion gives players a carrot to chase and adds value to the system.

Yeah it would expand it and give us a lot more to do with antiquities!

krachall

No.

Seriously?

There is only one answer and it's the same answer that has applied to every set change in the history of ESO: old items are changed to the new version. Period.

Nairinhe

No.

Leeched wrote: »

My god, stop already with all those senseless polls, asking for nerfs of stuff just cause you are too lazy to actually 'git gut'. If you would spend half the amount of time ingame, learning to play instead of making those stupid polls, you'd be one of the top 10 players...

It's Knowledge, what did you expect

blkjag

No.

You and these polls. I guess you just wanna log on and never even play or try to get better. You were just gifted vma weapons. If you don’t wanna get the crappy perfected ones by running it you shouldn’t have an easier way to obtain them. Stop asking for the easy way out.

RPGplayer13579

Other (Explain below).

I need to know what the antiquities system actually is before I can say yes or no. Does anyone have a link?

Starlock

Yes, I think we should be able to improve our weapons through the antiquities system just like finding mythic items!

Sure, why not?

Knowledge

Yes, I think we should be able to improve our weapons through the antiquities system just like finding mythic items!

RPGplayer13579 wrote: »

I need to know what the antiquities system actually is before I can say yes or no. Does anyone have a link?

It's this fantastic system added in the Greymoor Chapter. We get to become archaeologists! By going on treasure hunts for antiquities and earn Mythic Items!

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Antiquity

idk

No.

The idea is to create an incentive for players to challenge themselves with more difficult content. It ties into the risk vs reward aspect common in most major MMORPGs. While I understand some players have actual handicaps that would hinder them from being part of a group that can clear the harder content but the fact is most players can clear that content if they chose to.

It comes down to that is not their focus which is fine but that does not mean we should develop an entitlement system to give it to them via an easier means as a participation medal. Those that bother to clear the content are the only ones deserving.

Sanguinor2

No.

Why even have vet rewards when you dont Need to do vet to get them anyway?

zvavi

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Antiquities needs long-term value. Most of the mythic items shown are not really worth using outside of highly specific scenarios. The Malacath ring is pretty much the only decent one and it’s only good for PvP. Antiques is a content island that will immediately dry up in a few months once people max the skill out. Adding something like your suggestion gives players a carrot to chase and adds value to the system.

both rings and shoes have pvp value. Necklace has pve and pvp value. Gloves have huge pve value (they are broken. Put more points in health and you are literally sacrificing 6k max mag for 3k spell damage...). "Not really worth using" is just wrong. Some of them are f***ing broken.

yRaven

Other (Explain below).

Make it drop on Normal already, why do Veterans anyway?

Kalik_Gold

Other (Explain below).

Should be through regular crafting - they can implement the Gem/Stone/Crystal whatever item it needs through any means, doesn't have to be antiquities.

Vaoh

No.

I’d prefer for my new gold perfected Kyne’s Aegis gear to be sent to me via mail and for them to log on to my account and equip it for me before my game updates.

SidraWillowsky

No.

You want the perfected gear? Complete the content that awards it.

rexagamemnon

Yes, I think we should be able to improve our weapons through the antiquities system just like finding mythic items!

I think the argument, “i play the game better than you so i should get better gear” is dumb because 1) that doesnt matter in PVE because you want everyone on your team having good gear anyways.
And 2) if you are really much better than everyone who cant aquire the perfected gear through vet modes etc. then those individuals who have perfected gear but cant get it through vet mode shouldnt be a threat to your pvp leaderboard scores eitherway.
Skins, titles and ploymorphs sure, thats all for guys with better APM, but gear, quit being that entitled

Waynerx8

Another poll

TradoTheOne

Other (Explain below).

A way to upgrade the weapons? Oh yeah!!

Through the means where people who only do normal can get the hand on it aswell, absolutely not.

John_Falstaff

No.

You want a mindless grind to get perfect gear instead of actually getting good? Well, the way is open. Grind for gold, then find a carry guild.

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Rave the Histborn

No.

rexagamemnon wrote: »

I think the argument, “i play the game better than you so i should get better gear” is dumb because 1) that doesnt matter in PVE because you want everyone on your team having good gear anyways.
And 2) if you are really much better than everyone who cant aquire the perfected gear through vet modes etc. then those individuals who have perfected gear but cant get it through vet mode shouldnt be a threat to your pvp leaderboard scores eitherway.
Skins, titles and ploymorphs sure, thats all for guys with better APM, but gear, quit being that entitled

No, it isn't dumb

1) In PVE you want people to learn to parse and rotate to hit high dps. Giving out the gear just makes people lazier and doesn't make them learn what they actually need to.

2) That's not even a reason. If you want perfected gear then you should be capable of doing the content or being so good at making gold you can but it. If you're not capable then you shouldn't be rewarded with it. Gear is the reward for better APM not skins and titles. Those rewards are for bragging.

Atherakhia

No.

Perfected gear simply shouldn't exist in the first place. This MMO doesn't use a vertical progression model and has no need for this type of gear. There are tons of other things they could do to reward players for completing harder content that won't directly impact another player's ability to do content.

John_Falstaff

No.

Atherakhia wrote: »

No.

Perfected gear simply shouldn't exist in the first place. This MMO doesn't use a vertical progression model and has no need for this type of gear. There are tons of other things they could do to reward players for completing harder content that won't directly impact another player's ability to do content.

You're puzzling me. So how me having perfected gear is impacting the other one's ability to do content?

Atherakhia

In ESO? None, yet. But that's because the vast majority of this game is horizontal progression and the gap between perfected and non-perfected is still small. In other MMOs, it's a large problem (or was before they moved away from it).

But once you start going down this path, you generally don't turn around and you need to rely on content designers to keep the 'have nots' in mind when making content and they often do a poor job of it.