How will the new vma perfected weapon work exactly?

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Are there some pts notes i can read about this or any other information please. What is this all about exactly?
I dont get it. Will vma have to be completed on hard mode to get the perfected weapon? Im confused about this.

All i can think of is that normal vma will give an imperfeftvweapon and existing vma will give the perfected weapon.....but people have already completed and been redoing vma so how will that be reworked exactly so its fair for those that did it on vet. My thought is hm vma for perfected weapon?


I know there are other threads but they didnt answer my question.
Thank you kindly for your responses😊

Gracous

From what i understand so far is that normal MA will give you the weapons that drop now and that VMA will give you the perfected version. So you will have to farm VMA again to get the best weapons and armour (perfected)

MLGProPlayer

Current vMA weapons become the normal weapons.

Normal will now drop the current version of the weapons.

Vet will drop the "perfected" version.

The "perfected" version will just be the old vMA weapons that had a +189 damage stat on them (that ZOS took away from us 2 years ago so they could re-add it now as a new grind).

If you ran vet before, you won't get the new perfected version, despite the content being the same, and in some cases, having even possessed the perfected weapons before they took the damage stat away.

Source: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/521860/update-26-combat-preview#latest

MashmalloMan

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Current vMA weapons become the normal weapons.

Normal will now drop the current version of the weapons.

Vet will drop the "perfected" version.

The "perfected" version will just be the old vMA weapons that had a +189 damage stat on them (that ZOS took away from us 2 years ago so they could re-add it now as a new grind).

If you ran vet before, you won't get the new perfected version, despite the content being the same, and in some cases, having even possessed the perfected weapons before they took the damage stat away.

Source: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/521860/update-26-combat-preview#latest

While I don't agree with the decision to not upgrade our current weapons when they've been shown they are 100% capable of doing so, you paint the situation in a different way than what actually happened.

Arena weapons didn't have a 2 piece set bonus, they just used unique enchantments to provide their current 2 piece set bonuses. There was no space for regular enchantments. The trade of a static bonus like +189 damage to an infused berserker enchantment for +450 damage was well worth it. Especially when you only used most of these weapons on your back bar in the first place.

Also, perfected will not have the old +189 damage, if anything, it will be at the new standard for +129. +833 crit, etc.

A better question is: Will perfected simply add the old static bonuses or will they come up with stronger set effects like Asylum weapons.

Throxx

I see no evidence in that thread to suggest perfect will revert to the old stats. We just have to wait and see.

idk

MashmalloMan wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Current vMA weapons become the normal weapons.

Normal will now drop the current version of the weapons.

Vet will drop the "perfected" version.

The "perfected" version will just be the old vMA weapons that had a +189 damage stat on them (that ZOS took away from us 2 years ago so they could re-add it now as a new grind).

If you ran vet before, you won't get the new perfected version, despite the content being the same, and in some cases, having even possessed the perfected weapons before they took the damage stat away.

Source: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/521860/update-26-combat-preview#latest

While I don't agree with the decision to not upgrade our current weapons when they've been shown they are 100% capable of doing so, you paint the situation in a different way than what actually happened.

Arena weapons didn't have a 2 piece set bonus, they just used unique enchantments to provide their current 2 piece set bonuses. There was no space for regular enchantments. The trade of a static bonus like +189 damage to an infused berserker enchantment for +450 damage was well worth it. Especially when you only used most of these weapons on your back bar in the first place.

Also, perfected will not have the old +189 damage, if anything, it will be at the new standard for +129. +833 crit, etc.

A better question is: Will perfected simply add the old static bonuses or will they come up with stronger set effects like Asylum weapons.

You are correct that MLG does not paint the situation correctly. If anything these new weapons will be superior to the original design we had before Zos removed the 189 WD/SD as they will have that added damage stat plus an enchant.

Granted, that is a fact that is very inconvenient to the bitter replies I have seen in the forums.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

I feel really dumb here - I've been playing ESO for over 3 years and I have no idea what a perfected weapon is.

Can someone please tell me?

Thanks.

Ratzkifal

delenn35 wrote: »

I feel really dumb here - I've been playing ESO for over 3 years and I have no idea what a perfected weapon is.

Can someone please tell me?

Thanks.

@delenn35 Currently doing normal Asylum Sanctorum or veteran Asylum Sanctorum with less than three bosses in the final fight rewards you with the "normal version" of the Asylum weapon sets. However, if you do veteran Asylum Sanctorum with two additional bosses in the fight (aka hardmode), you get the "perfected versions" of the weapon sets. In the case of the destruction staff for example the normal version applies burning, chilled and concussed status effects every 3rd time you use force pulse in a short amount of time. The perfected version however applies these status effects every 2nd time.

In Greymoor the weapon sets from Dragonstar Arena, Maelstrom Arena, Asylum Sanctorum and Black Rose Prison will get standardized and there will be new perfected versions of the weapon sets from veteran Dragonstar and Maelstrom Arena while the old/current DSA and MA weapons will remain in their nonperfected state despite coming from the content that will start dropping the perfected versions soon. Many players are upset about that because grinding these weapons has been very time consuming and it's not like they can just spend 50 transmute gems to upgrade them to perfected. They need to farm all of their weapons again doing the very same content they've already done successfully years ago for no apparent reason

idk

delenn35 wrote: »

I feel really dumb here - I've been playing ESO for over 3 years and I have no idea what a perfected weapon is.

Can someone please tell me?

Thanks.

@delenn35

Starting with Asylum Santorium Zos started creating two tiers of arena/trial gear. The perfected gear comes from running the vet and vet HM difficulties. The perfected are basically stronger than the non-perfect but varies how that happens.

xXMeowMeowXx

A cheap way to get people to regrind one very small part of the Orsinium DLC....Rather than making a new arena that would be welcomed.

delenn35 wrote: »

I feel really dumb here - I've been playing ESO for over 3 years and I have no idea what a perfected weapon is.

Can someone please tell me?

Thanks.

Vet gear and weapons from certain trials and arenas. They have a bonus that makes them better than the normal version.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mIvwMrInFuk

Alcast probably has vids too.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

Thanks everyone for the information.

I seriously had no idea.

I've played for about three and half years, but I've never done a trial.

I've gone through Maelstrom but only on normal - no way I'd put myself through vet considering how frustrating I've heard it can be.

I get why people are disappointed about this.

karekiz

MashmalloMan wrote: »

A better question is: Will perfected simply add the old static bonuses or will they come up with stronger set effects like Asylum weapons.

I think a streamer stated the 2 set bonus would be the same. Its just the one set that will change.

Cadbury

delenn35 wrote: »

Thanks everyone for the information.

I seriously had no idea.

I've played for about three and half years, but I've never done a trial.

I've gone through Maelstrom but only on normal - no way I'd put myself through vet considering how frustrating I've heard it can be.

I get why people are disappointed about this.

I'm sure other people will reply with "Oh, but vMA is so easy nowadays.", just because it's easier doesn't make it less of a slog to get through.

And I say this as a former fan of MA's design

bmnoble

delenn35 wrote: »

I feel really dumb here - I've been playing ESO for over 3 years and I have no idea what a perfected weapon is.

Can someone please tell me?

Thanks.

A better version of the original set or weapon in terms of extra set bonuses on the Perfected version.

Elsonso

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

The "perfected" version will just be the old vMA weapons that had a +189 damage stat on them (that ZOS took away from us 2 years ago so they could re-add it now as a new grind).

We do not know what the perfected weapon stats will be, yet. And, even when we find out in the Monday patch notes, it will probably be different at launch.

MLGProPlayer

Cadbury wrote: »

delenn35 wrote: »

Thanks everyone for the information.

I seriously had no idea.

I've played for about three and half years, but I've never done a trial.

I've gone through Maelstrom but only on normal - no way I'd put myself through vet considering how frustrating I've heard it can be.

I get why people are disappointed about this.

I'm sure other people will reply with "Oh, but vMA is so easy nowadays.", just because it's easier doesn't make it less of a slog to get through.

And I say this as a former fan of MA's design

vMA is easy.

vMA was fun the first few attempts.

But just because something is easy and was fun years ago before I did it 100 times doesn't mean I want to do it another 100 times.

Cadbury

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

delenn35 wrote: »

Thanks everyone for the information.

I seriously had no idea.

I've played for about three and half years, but I've never done a trial.

I've gone through Maelstrom but only on normal - no way I'd put myself through vet considering how frustrating I've heard it can be.

I get why people are disappointed about this.

I'm sure other people will reply with "Oh, but vMA is so easy nowadays.", just because it's easier doesn't make it less of a slog to get through.

And I say this as a former fan of MA's design

vMA is easy.

vMA was fun the first few attempts.

But just because something is easy and was fun years ago before I did it 100 times doesn't mean I want to do it another 100 times.

...so you basically reiterated what I just said.

Edit: eh, maybe I could have formated that better. My apologies

ImmortalCX

This is a good development.

It closes the gap between newer and older players. At least until older players regrind.

In the interim, it incentivises running normal. There was no reason to before. This will get more ppl trained to run it and more ppl will attempt veteran.

It's a good way to reduce the steep skill wall. Honestly, a dark souls twitch type experience probably doesnt have much bearing on trial performance.

The problem with vma is that it requires a completely different bar setup to be learned. And it much much easier on some classes. At least ppl can farm the normal version on any class now.

Banana

It'll make you repeat content for no reason

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Gracous wrote: »

From what i understand so far is that normal MA will give you the weapons that drop now and that VMA will give you the perfected version. So you will have to farm VMA again to get the best weapons and armour (perfected)

That makes sense thank you

Recent

idk wrote: »

delenn35 wrote: »

I feel really dumb here - I've been playing ESO for over 3 years and I have no idea what a perfected weapon is.

Can someone please tell me?

Thanks.

@delenn35

Starting with Asylum Santorium Zos started creating two tiers of arena/trial gear. The perfected gear comes from running the vet and vet HM difficulties. The perfected are basically stronger than the non-perfect but varies how that happens.

Makes goodvsense thanks for your reply

Recent

ImmortalCX wrote: »

This is a good development.

It closes the gap between newer and older players. At least until older players regrind.

In the interim, it incentivises running normal. There was no reason to before. This will get more ppl trained to run it and more ppl will attempt veteran.

It's a good way to reduce the steep skill wall. Honestly, a dark souls twitch type experience probably doesnt have much bearing on trial performance.

The problem with vma is that it requires a completely different bar setup to be learned. And it much much easier on some classes. At least ppl can farm the normal version on any class now.

Yea I like it when zos tries to breach the gap between those that can and those that struggle 😊😉