This count as 1vXing?

Dr_Ganknstein

This video contains some fights on my Ganknlade, defending Keeps, bridge toll collector, origin story. Personally I usually do not consider it 1vXing when you have guards helping or the enemy is low CP. Aside from this video, what do you guys think?

https://youtu.be/-fVF_DjFAJs

Alucardo

lol nice video. If they don't make that the official ballista sound effect I am going to riot.

Dr_Ganknstein

Alucardo wrote: »

lol nice video. If they don't make that the official ballista sound effect I am going to riot.

Yeah I don't know it just seems to sound way better lol

Dr_Ganknstein

forgot to mention thats the plasma rifle sfx from the Terminator during the future scenes.

Akinos

nice video, once again the sound effects are on point xD

L_Nici

I actually wonder where you find that stupid players...on PC EU you could never pull off something like that, on PC NA on the other hand you could. I tried it personally, NA players are so much worse than EU. I have no idea about the consoles, but from what I see here players there are even worse than PC NA.

Moonsorrow

Entertaining vid again! Garbage day -dude (cannot remember the name of the movie) is a legend lol.

Keep doing more of these please, did bring a smiley face feeling to this morning.

Now that done with breakfast, think its time to go check Cyro for some morning action..

Alucardo

L_Nici wrote: »

I actually wonder where you find that stupid players...on PC EU you could never pull off something like that, on PC NA on the other hand you could. I tried it personally, NA players are so much worse than EU. I have no idea about the consoles, but from what I see here players there are even worse than PC NA.

Have you ever tried to play an MMO that requires fancy footwork with a controller before? Give it a try and maybe you'll understand
I probably couldn't even beat one of their "stupid" players if I were using a controller.

Fawn4287

Ganking is not 1VXing in any way, snipe with the lag in cyrodil is essentially an exploit

LoreToo

L_Nici wrote: »

I actually wonder where you find that stupid players...on PC EU you could never pull off something like that, on PC NA on the other hand you could. I tried it personally, NA players are so much worse than EU. I have no idea about the consoles, but from what I see here players there are even worse than PC NA.

well you just need to find a right spot

btw @Icky 3:17 no crit. i thought it was my personal bug, now it seems that sneak is broken right now

coletas

No offense, but exploiting desynch at 28 meters isnt 1vsX ... For the rest, very mediocre gameplay. Hit snipe until no stamina, take a pot, keep sniping and if he goes after you, cloak and wait until you can snipe again lol do you know something about snipe desynchs? You know most of times snipped guy cant swap weapons or hit abilities and nearly 100% of time when he listen the first arrow he already have been hitted by 2 or 3 arrows without watching his health bar going down? Player vs player is when the other player plays too. And 1vsX is other thing. Just try it and make a video too XD please, not take like an offense.

The_Camper

Nice troll build and fun video. It's good to have fun in the game, whatever you do.

But this gameplay is nowhere near 1vXing though.

Papachico

X is from the Roman numeral system and implies 10. Now watch your own video and you will see the the answer on your question is within your video. NO.

Cadbury

Silent Night, Deadly Night 2 and Terminator sound effects??

Dr_Ganknstein

Papachico wrote: »

X is from the Roman numeral system and implies 10. Now watch your own video and you will see the the answer on your question is within your video. NO.

Do algebra? Know algebro?

Dr_Ganknstein

coletas wrote: »

No offense, but exploiting desynch at 28 meters isnt 1vsX ... For the rest, very mediocre gameplay. Hit snipe until no stamina, take a pot, keep sniping and if he goes after you, cloak and wait until you can snipe again lol do you know something about snipe desynchs? You know most of times snipped guy cant swap weapons or hit abilities and nearly 100% of time when he listen the first arrow he already have been hitted by 2 or 3 arrows without watching his health bar going down? Player vs player is when the other player plays too. And 1vsX is other thing. Just try it and make a video too XD please, not take like an offense.

keep your ears buttered up while I set fire to the rain. 😎

Dr_Ganknstein

L_Nici wrote: »

I actually wonder where you find that stupid players...on PC EU you could never pull off something like that, on PC NA on the other hand you could. I tried it personally, NA players are so much worse than EU. I have no idea about the consoles, but from what I see here players there are even worse than PC NA.

I thought EU was easy mode version of ESO? At least thats what everyone says.
I'm kidding of course but there are good and bad players on each server/platform. The trick is finding them so you can make a 1vX video, 🤣

Juhasow

Ganking =/= 1vXing . it's more like series of 0,5v0,1 one after another.

jadarock

That's not Xing but funny to watch nonetheless

Dr_Ganknstein

coletas wrote: »

No offense, but exploiting desynch at 28 meters isnt 1vsX ... For the rest, very mediocre gameplay. Hit snipe until no stamina, take a pot, keep sniping and if he goes after you, cloak and wait until you can snipe again lol do you know something about snipe desynchs? You know most of times snipped guy cant swap weapons or hit abilities and nearly 100% of time when he listen the first arrow he already have been hitted by 2 or 3 arrows without watching his health bar going down? Player vs player is when the other player plays too. And 1vsX is other thing. Just try it and make a video too XD please, not take like an offense.

You have 0 stam regen when moving in sneak and the only heal I'm using is rally and potions. So bad sustain, low heals, squishy af. If I get lag its less forgiving then someone with high hp, high resists, good sustain. I'd hate to use this analogy because he is one of my favorite MMA fighters but its like being Andrea Arlovski, he can knock you out in one hit but he has to be careful because he can get KOed easy also. Its like a frog 🐸 telling a spider 🕷 that the fly they caught doesn't count because they used a web instead of there tongue.

coletas

Icky wrote: »

coletas wrote: »

No offense, but exploiting desynch at 28 meters isnt 1vsX ... For the rest, very mediocre gameplay. Hit snipe until no stamina, take a pot, keep sniping and if he goes after you, cloak and wait until you can snipe again lol do you know something about snipe desynchs? You know most of times snipped guy cant swap weapons or hit abilities and nearly 100% of time when he listen the first arrow he already have been hitted by 2 or 3 arrows without watching his health bar going down? Player vs player is when the other player plays too. And 1vsX is other thing. Just try it and make a video too XD please, not take like an offense.

You have 0 stam regen when moving in sneak and the only heal I'm using is rally and potions. So bad sustain, low heals, squishy af. If I get lag its less forgiving then someone with high hp, high resists, good sustain. I'd hate to use this analogy because he is one of my favorite MMA fighters but its like being Andrea Arlovski, he can knock you out in one hit but he has to be careful because he can get KOed easy also. Its like a frog 🐸 telling a spider 🕷 that the fly they caught doesn't count because they used a web instead of there tongue.

No, is it a bug and you exploit It. Without that bug, you probably wont kill anybody minimal competent to block and roll Dodge, counter It and go after you. If the first arrow sound and health would decrease when It should, you would be death most of the time. But the true is that even if you survive the desynch and not stuned (i use magelight), most times you cant use any skill or swap bars, just move and light attacks.

Dr_Ganknstein

coletas wrote: »

Icky wrote: »

coletas wrote: »

No offense, but exploiting desynch at 28 meters isnt 1vsX ... For the rest, very mediocre gameplay. Hit snipe until no stamina, take a pot, keep sniping and if he goes after you, cloak and wait until you can snipe again lol do you know something about snipe desynchs? You know most of times snipped guy cant swap weapons or hit abilities and nearly 100% of time when he listen the first arrow he already have been hitted by 2 or 3 arrows without watching his health bar going down? Player vs player is when the other player plays too. And 1vsX is other thing. Just try it and make a video too XD please, not take like an offense.

You have 0 stam regen when moving in sneak and the only heal I'm using is rally and potions. So bad sustain, low heals, squishy af. If I get lag its less forgiving then someone with high hp, high resists, good sustain. I'd hate to use this analogy because he is one of my favorite MMA fighters but its like being Andrea Arlovski, he can knock you out in one hit but he has to be careful because he can get KOed easy also. Its like a frog 🐸 telling a spider 🕷 that the fly they caught doesn't count because they used a web instead of there tongue.

No, is it a bug and you exploit It. Without that bug, you probably wont kill anybody minimal competent to block and roll Dodge, counter It and go after you. If the first arrow sound and health would decrease when It should, you would be death most of the time. But the true is that even if you survive the desynch and not stuned (i use magelight), most times you cant use any skill or swap bars, just move and light attacks.

K. Dead "most" times but not all. If it was as easy as you claim it is it wouldn't be fun. How much physical resistance do you run? Also put some points into the CP line that decrease fires damage attacks against you by %. When you hear an arrow dodge roll. Don't wait to see if they are attacking you. If you get hit with an arrow and your hp doesn't go down dont just stand there and think about how weak that hit was, dodge roll because the rest of the combo is headed your way.
😎

coletas

As i said, when you hear the first Arrow, and you usually only hear 1, the rest are not coming... They already hitted you. If you die, combat metrics show you 1 second combat and for example 5 hits. That is why is an exploitable bug. There are many people exploiting It even on sorcers. The problem is not the stun from being still, or the hard hitting or the debuffs. The problem is that after the first snipe, everything else is desynched and bugged in a very similar way like when you are running or with pirate skeleton bug. That why you see then walking like ducks. You are seeing the damage of the first Arrow and Next attacks in real time, but they dont. Im templar, with magelight, pariah and 2 pieces armor (pirate+chudan), and sometimes I am deleted from 100 to 0 in just 1 second. That is why is an exploit of a bug. When the bug doesnt appear, there is no problem... Roll Dodge, clean, charge, detection pot and put up with all the usually rages and crying (you know... Jabs are op, Cheater, Blablabla). Sometimes you cant even block or dodge the next ballista (and not stunned/fear)... The character moves like if he wants to roll or block (i prefer to block it because if theres a second nb, a fear while dodging is a death sentence) but it doesnt really block or Dodge. As a resume, is a bug, and you are exploiting It, and of course is not a 1vsAnything and is not a fight

Dr_Ganknstein

I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been killed by a bow ganker over the last two years.

coletas

Lol try to go out of cloak a pair of seconds XD anyway, you would be deleted in the first Arrow, so sorry, the bug isnt appliable to you XD the problem is not with the ganking or stealth mechanics or the class, but the snipe skill itself and people who deliberately exploit It

jadarock

@coletas
I think you are mistaken when you hear the first bow twang you roll and the rest of the combo misses. I believe you are talking about the sound it make when one has landed then yea alott of the times you are done for .

The problem is it's not making the bow twang for the initial snipe which leads to the desync bug .
I mained a sniper for 4 years btw pretty sure I know how it works

*you can be 6 or 30meters away doesn't make a difference . There are many instances where the snipe sound isnt being applied

Dr_Ganknstein

coletas wrote: »

Lol try to go out of cloak a pair of seconds XD anyway, you would be deleted in the first Arrow, so sorry, the bug isnt appliable to you XD the problem is not with the ganking or stealth mechanics or the class, but the snipe skill itself and people who deliberately exploit It

Try staying in cloak while fighting multiple opponents and maintain resources with rally and potions as your only heal and have super low resists and crit resist.
No-one is deliberately exploiting it. How would you know when its desyncing? Lots of things desync in eso because performance sucks. Watch the video and you will notice I get desynced by meteor at the end. I tried to bash the guy rezzing but it didn't work because I was already dead before my xbox realized it.

coletas

Yes, but with snipe happens 99% of times. Is so often than like i said before, many stamsorcs only wear bow in defensive bar for that. Is easy to know when its desynched. Make a duel with a friend in cyro, one un each alliance, both use combat metrics. Look duration of the fight for both. You Will have 5 seconds and he Will have 1 second. That is the desynch bug, but is not the only one related to snipe, and only snipe.

Sneakers

Icky wrote: »

coletas wrote: »

Lol try to go out of cloak a pair of seconds XD anyway, you would be deleted in the first Arrow, so sorry, the bug isnt appliable to you XD the problem is not with the ganking or stealth mechanics or the class, but the snipe skill itself and people who deliberately exploit It

Try staying in cloak while fighting multiple opponents and maintain resources with rally and potions as your only heal and have super low resists and crit resist.
No-one is deliberately exploiting it. How would you know when its desyncing? Lots of things desync in eso because performance sucks. Watch the video and you will notice I get desynced by meteor at the end. I tried to bash the guy rezzing but it didn't work because I was already dead before my xbox realized it.

Very entertaining vid, good sound effects and funny tidbits.

But as others have already said snipe is basically exploiting at this point.

I can't count on 1 hand when snipe has not desynced during U25. It is always desynced.

In beginning of U25 Sorcerers OL was desyncing as well, you could force it by queuing a casted crystal frag while LA spamming super fast with OL active. When frag was casted you would instantly summon 3-4 OL hitting people for 4500-8000 dmg per bolt plus ur intial frag. You then Furied as well and would land 50k dmg on people deleting 40k hp tanks in 1 GCD.

Being a sorcerer exploit this was naturally hotfixed without mention in patch notes after 5-7 days. Go figure

jadarock

Icky wrote: »

coletas wrote: »

Lol try to go out of cloak a pair of seconds XD anyway, you would be deleted in the first Arrow, so sorry, the bug isnt appliable to you XD the problem is not with the ganking or stealth mechanics or the class, but the snipe skill itself and people who deliberately exploit It

Try staying in cloak while fighting multiple opponents and maintain resources with rally and potions as your only heal and have super low resists and crit resist.
No-one is deliberately exploiting it. How would you know when its desyncing? Lots of things desync in eso because performance sucks. Watch the video and you will notice I get desynced by meteor at the end. I tried to bash the guy rezzing but it didn't work because I was already dead before my xbox realized it.

Agreed. When I'm fighting open world I dont have time to see if zos's buggered up coding is desyncing my opponents. For the most part the sniper hasn't a clue youre desynced. To him or her you never broke free acted properly ie rolled healed went offensive.

Coincidence its buggier now than before they tinkered with it ? lol

coletas

Of course. Snipe desynch has always stayed there, but in last patch is basically a exploit because It always desynch and mostly always bug you (like the sprint bug). Is so dirty way to win a 1vs1 that even some stamsorcs risks to use it at melee just one time in the middle of the fight