This guy must hack, otherwise....

DeusVult3

Hello everyone,

I see this guy in under level 50 BG's that is a stam warden who cannot be killed, and I mean it. He gets close to zero damage.
On the other hand, he will use bugs, shield chard and burst combo with shield bashes. He doesn't even use a 2h.
How can this level of tankyness and broken dmg be possible in under lvl 50 BG's? You don't even have the sets that can make bash so broken.
I mean, yeah you can, but it is impossible to keep up with it because you level so fast.
I have screenshots of his name and everything, because I'm not really a noob and what this guy does is inexplicable.

justaquickword

All points into health. It's not hard to do with a warden using the frost skill line. Even a fat fingered potato like myself can manage that.

redspecter23

It's entirely possible this player has sets available to use every 5 levels, just to keep up with the leveling progress. I'm not saying he's not cheating, but assuming players won't put effort into keeping their gear relevant is a bit naive. If it can be done, some sub set of players will do it.

OtarTheMad

Some people just live in lowbie, which is perfectly fine, but then some people also farm dungeon sets and have them available every 4-5 levels and just float those sets from character to character. I've even seen people bragging about golding out all below 50 gear just so they can dominate.

Almost always being in lowbie PvP/BGs is one thing, that is fun but then you got others who gold out all gear and just try to be a God in lowbie, which is bad.

Gilvoth

right now warden and necromancers are broken in both defenses too high and damage output too high, add in the fact that below level 50 you have battle hardened bonus and you got yourself a power house of defenses and damage to an already overloaded class/'s, and what makes it far worse is when the person is highly experienced in pvp and BAM with those 3 bonuses you got yourself an unkillable Tank character.

idk

DeusVult3 wrote: »

On the other hand, he will use bugs, shield chard and burst combo with shield bashes. He doesn't even use a 2h.

Why would you expect him to have a 2H given the skills you list? It sounds like he is a S&B Warden since they are using Warden skills and S&B skills.

SeaGtGruff

You should edit your last post to remove his name, otherwise it's "naming and shaming"-- although in this case it might be more like "naming and faming," since from what others have said in thus thread he apparently isn't doing anything wrong, contrary to the title of this thread. Either way, it still falls under "naming and shaming."

dem0n1k

DeusVult3 wrote: »

I do not believe there is the physical time to farm dungeons to keep up with sets but ALSO do BG's constantly, since he is literally plague-ing the EU/PC under lvl 50 BG's as we speak.
I lost the last 10 matches with no possible way of a different outcome.
We had a chaosball match where all 2 enemy teams were hitting the guy and he still couldn't die.

Also, how the hell can he do 4k bashes??
I also do not believe he actually dumped all points into HP, he would have no stam to do this insane dmg, yet he does.

This could be his 100th alt character for all we know... which would give him a max of 6 years to collect the gear & just pass it through the bank to his next character.

Ri_Khan

Yeah there's a bunch of players who can't handle any kind of real competition that do nothing but run characters through under 50 BG's just to delete them when they get to 50 and start over again. It doesn't really get much more pathetic than this.

Royaji

DeusVult3 wrote: »

His name is (snip) some of you might know him maybe?
Char name is absolute-girls-favourite.

I do not believe there is the physical time to farm dungeons to keep up with sets but ALSO do BG's constantly, since he is literally plague-ing the EU/PC under lvl 50 BG's as we speak.
I lost the last 10 matches with no possible way of a different outcome.
We had a chaosball match where all 2 enemy teams were hitting the guy and he still couldn't die.

Also, how the hell can he do 4k bashes??
I also do not believe he actually dumped all points into HP, he would have no stam to do this insane dmg, yet he does.

He has farmed the sets once, golded them out and is now re-rolling characters every time they hit level 50. With a setup like that you can absolutely dominate below 50 battlegrounds without any cheating involved.

edited to remove mention from the quote

Dusk_Coven

Maybe he's hacking, maybe he isn't.
But the real issue is people can't tell for sure.
If you can't tell, the combat design/pvp management is probably rubbish.

In this case, maybe it's a legit combo of gear and pots and skills. But even if it were -- combat is still broken for it to be possible and gameplay to be like this.
PvP was doomed from the start precisely because of ESO's freedom of builds and options. That sort of freedom is only best balanced against PvE where one side of the equation (the PvE enemies) is totally predictable because it is under the dev's control. In PvP they can't possibly hope to balance against all the possible combinations that players use.

Even in PvE, the devs were foolish to make the short-sighted decision to allow the animation cancellation exploit be used. It's an unintended exploit and therefore of course totally not accounted for in balancing their content.
Furthermore, the very nature of that exploit makes cheaters love it. There are probably cheaters hiding inside using macros and they can just wave it all away claiming they can press all the buttons really fast. Some people can do it quite quickly and quite reliably, but now the cheaters use macros and do it all day and make the same claims. And it's too hard to tell the difference.
ZOS should switch to ALACRITY instead. http://gq-game-mods.blogspot.com/2020/04/elder-scrolls-online-how-to-introduce-fast-paced-combat.html It would at least make it a bit easier to find overt cheats and be easier on the servers.

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Yeah there's a bunch of players who can't handle any kind of real competition that do nothing but run characters through under 50 BG's just to delete them when they get to 50 and start over again. It doesn't really get much more pathetic than this.

And a PvP management that can't sort these people out into a league of their own to fight with comparable players -- that's no management at all.

JanTanhide

There was a player in my guild not long ago that played ONLY under level 50 characters for PVP. He golded out his sets and had some pretty awesome gear. Once he hit level 50 he deleted the character and started over. He was in a guild that was specifically for under level 50 PVP. I ran with him a few times in BGs and the Sewers and he destroyed everything (when we still had group BGs). So it is entirely possible that the player you are describing is one of those that are dedicated to low level PVP and have quite the inventory of gear and skills unlocked.

Now that you can buy Skill lines maybe that is what is also happening?

OlumoGarbag

Im pretty sure hes not hacking. There is this thing called battlescaling, which mean the lower your lvl is the better your gear is. It is entirely possible to manage above 15k weapondmg on low lvls. Ive seen Screenshots higher then that. I personally managed to get 11k wd with purple weapons on lvl 10. So yeah pair some gold gear with low lvls and give it to a skilled player. He will oneshot you and heal himself to full in no time. If you want to know what the most instant healing is managed to get in low lvl, its 65k from ww heal.

DeusVult3

Seriously, i had some matches without him and they are a blast.
Whenever he is in a game there is no incentive to play. This cannot go under ZOS radar because it is ridiculous.
Even if he has gold sets, he must have a set for every 5 or so levels, otherwise the stats would be too weak.
That is something beyond ridiculous to do lol, the guy must either have no life or no life.
I already see some players that queued tonight many times and they also noticed him, and they just afk form start.
This ruins the game lol.

justaquickword

DeusVult3 wrote: »

Seriously, i had some matches without him and they are a blast.
Whenever he is in a game there is no incentive to play. This cannot go under ZOS radar because it is ridiculous.
Even if he has gold sets, he must have a set for every 5 or so levels, otherwise the stats would be too weak.
That is something beyond ridiculous to do lol, the guy must either have no life or no life.
I already see some players that queued tonight many times and they also noticed him, and they just afk form start.
This ruins the game lol.

Well, you'll reach CP level eventually and then you won't have to worry about it.

Jierdanit

He is pretty certainly not cheating xD

I know him from below level 50 PvP. He has been playing there for quite some time and i suppose he got (just like me and quite a few others) good gear for every char for every about 5 lvls weapons likely gold for every 2 lvls and he grinds all of his chars so theyre ready to pvp on before he starts pvping on them.

It has nothing to do with cheating, but is just that he got better gear, more experience and a skilled char that is just way stronger than yours.

Universe

Some players cheat and we will never know for sure if they were actually cheating.
I encountered several cases of False Positive cheaters in PVP.
ZOS doesn't disclose the findings of the investigations.
Though if the players I reported are never seen again in Cyrodiil, I know that my reports were successful and stopped the cheaters(most likely).

You can report and let ZOS investigate if you find something is really not right.
But I advise against reporting if you're not sure.
Some people are just extremely good in PVP so it looks like they are cheating but they are not.

justaquickword

Jierdanit wrote: »

He is pretty certainly not cheating xD

I know him from below level 50 PvP. He has been playing there for quite some time and i suppose he got (just like me and quite a few others) good gear for every char for every about 5 lvls weapons likely gold for every 2 lvls and he grinds all of his chars so theyre ready to pvp on before he starts pvping on them.

It has nothing to do with cheating, but is just that he got better gear, more experience and a skilled char that is just way stronger than yours.

Somebody getting beaten by a better player? This just won't do.. Call the cops.

Sanctum74

Rather than accuse people of hacking and name and shame how about talking about your build and defensive/offensive rotation instead and maybe people can help you get better. You will never get better talking trash and accusing people of hacking.

Malkiv

justaquickword wrote: »

DeusVult3 wrote: »

Seriously, i had some matches without him and they are a blast.
Whenever he is in a game there is no incentive to play. This cannot go under ZOS radar because it is ridiculous.
Even if he has gold sets, he must have a set for every 5 or so levels, otherwise the stats would be too weak.
That is something beyond ridiculous to do lol, the guy must either have no life or no life.
I already see some players that queued tonight many times and they also noticed him, and they just afk form start.
This ruins the game lol.

Well, you'll reach CP level eventually and then you won't have to worry about it.

They're going to hit CP, queue for a BG, and get absolutely blistered. You don't go into no-CP PVP without a golded set specifically fit to your build, because the build micromanagement for no-CP PVP is real. Sure, not everyone does it, but a lot more do than one per match. Then we're going to see yet another, "Hacking player can't be killed," or, "DIZZY TOO OP NERF NOW."

Jierdanit

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Rather than accuse people of hacking and name and shame how about talking about your build and defensive/offensive rotation instead and maybe people can help you get better. You will never get better talking trash and accusing people of hacking.

yes please

Mancombe_Nosehair

What year would be likely be wearing? Asking for a friend;)

DeusVult3

It is not about me being better. I dominate most games where there are no such morons.
My apologies, i cannot name people that do this otherwise.
Who the fudge crafts, grinds and optimizes low level chars in all gold stuff and buys skills. This is ridiculous.
@Sanctum74 you know what's ironic and rather hypocritical of you? That i'm just reading a post from August 2019 where you were attacked and bashed by several morons like this guy who do the same thing, whilst you were defending people like me.
You even claimed leveling through BG's should not be allowed as soon as you hit 50.

My build is fine and i know how to play, again, i rek most normal matches.
These dudes don't even bother to block because of how broken their gear must be.
"name shaming"...all of the players that do this should be name shamed. This practice of twinking hard should be impossible to do. They should just make the pvp sets that drop from the boxes to be the only ones you can gear up in BG's with. And no *** gold, that's ***.
And i even see them not having amazing skill, at all. Maybe they don't try because of the gear and when you are immortal you dont need to dodge and block.
In any case, this is ridiculous and destroys any fun in pvp for leveling people.

Jierdanit

Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »

What year would be likely be wearing? Asking for a friend;)

i suppose youre talking about gear not year ^^

since from what ive seen here so far i suppose he is a stamDen, i would say hes likely playing something like new moon / fury.

Mancombe_Nosehair

Jierdanit wrote: »

Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »

What year would be likely be wearing? Asking for a friend;)

i suppose youre talking about gear not year ^^

since from what ive seen here so far i suppose he is a stamDen, i would say hes likely playing something like new moon / fury.

Lol yeah its the auto correct on my phone. I actually typed gear twice!

Jierdanit

DeusVult3 wrote: »

It is not about me being better. I dominate most games where there are no such morons.
My apologies, i cannot name people that do this otherwise.
Who the fudge crafts, grinds and optimizes low level chars in all gold stuff and buys skills. This is ridiculous.
@Sanctum74 you know what's ironic and rather hypocritical of you? That i'm just reading a post from August 2019 where you were attacked and bashed by several morons like this guy who do the same thing, whilst you were defending people like me.
You even claimed leveling through BG's should not be allowed as soon as you hit 50.

My build is fine and i know how to play, again, i rek most normal matches.
These dudes don't even bother to block because of how broken their gear must be.
"name shaming"...all of the players that do this should be name shamed. This practice of twinking hard should be impossible to do. They should just make the pvp sets that drop from the boxes to be the only ones you can gear up in BG's with. And no *** gold, that's ***.
And i even see them not having amazing skill, at all. Maybe they don't try because of the gear and when you are immortal you dont need to dodge and block.
In any case, this is ridiculous and destroys any fun in pvp for leveling people.

You seriously do not sound like someone who knows what he is doing.
You sound like you wanted to go into below 50 pvp and have some fun with worse players and ended up getting rekt by someone who does the same but better. Otherwise i dont know why some like you who (as you said) is not a noob at all and knows what he is doing and who insults vet players going into low level pvp, would go there anyways.

Furthermore you have no way of knowing that he bought any skilllines.

Also no one, simply no one gets immortal just from gear everyone who does this has at least some skill and knows how to work with his char.

He is one of the best players who are left on below level 50 PvP.

Sanctum74

DeusVult3 wrote: »

It is not about me being better. I dominate most games where there are no such morons.
My apologies, i cannot name people that do this otherwise.
Who the fudge crafts, grinds and optimizes low level chars in all gold stuff and buys skills. This is ridiculous.
@Sanctum74 you know what's ironic and rather hypocritical of you? That i'm just reading a post from August 2019 where you were attacked and bashed by several morons like this guy who do the same thing, whilst you were defending people like me.
You even claimed leveling through BG's should not be allowed as soon as you hit 50.

My build is fine and i know how to play, again, i rek most normal matches.
These dudes don't even bother to block because of how broken their gear must be.
"name shaming"...all of the players that do this should be name shamed. This practice of twinking hard should be impossible to do. They should just make the pvp sets that drop from the boxes to be the only ones you can gear up in BG's with. And no *** gold, that's ***.
And i even see them not having amazing skill, at all. Maybe they don't try because of the gear and when you are immortal you dont need to dodge and block.
In any case, this is ridiculous and destroys any fun in pvp for leveling people.

Yes i do agree that it’s pathetic for people to just reroll characters to only play in below 50 but unfortunately its allowed so you have to either learn to be competitive and have the right gear or just wait till 50 and play on the main campaign that people like that are afraid to play in. Btw im flattered you checked my post history before responding.

redspecter23

DeusVult3 wrote: »

It is not about me being better. I dominate most games where there are no such morons.
My apologies, i cannot name people that do this otherwise.
Who the fudge crafts, grinds and optimizes low level chars in all gold stuff and buys skills. This is ridiculous.
@Sanctum74 you know what's ironic and rather hypocritical of you? That i'm just reading a post from August 2019 where you were attacked and bashed by several morons like this guy who do the same thing, whilst you were defending people like me.
You even claimed leveling through BG's should not be allowed as soon as you hit 50.

My build is fine and i know how to play, again, i rek most normal matches.
These dudes don't even bother to block because of how broken their gear must be.
"name shaming"...all of the players that do this should be name shamed. This practice of twinking hard should be impossible to do. They should just make the pvp sets that drop from the boxes to be the only ones you can gear up in BG's with. And no *** gold, that's ***.
And i even see them not having amazing skill, at all. Maybe they don't try because of the gear and when you are immortal you dont need to dodge and block.
In any case, this is ridiculous and destroys any fun in pvp for leveling people.

Anyone that admits they have nothing to learn will never get any better. A person that is always looking for ways to improve will typically find those ways and constantly improve.

thissocalledflower

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DeusVult3 wrote: »

It is not about me being better. I dominate most games where there are no such morons.
My apologies, i cannot name people that do this otherwise.
Who the fudge crafts, grinds and optimizes low level chars in all gold stuff and buys skills. This is ridiculous.
@Sanctum74 you know what's ironic and rather hypocritical of you? That i'm just reading a post from August 2019 where you were attacked and bashed by several morons like this guy who do the same thing, whilst you were defending people like me.
You even claimed leveling through BG's should not be allowed as soon as you hit 50.

My build is fine and i know how to play, again, i rek most normal matches.
These dudes don't even bother to block because of how broken their gear must be.
"name shaming"...all of the players that do this should be name shamed. This practice of twinking hard should be impossible to do. They should just make the pvp sets that drop from the boxes to be the only ones you can gear up in BG's with. And no *** gold, that's ***.
And i even see them not having amazing skill, at all. Maybe they don't try because of the gear and when you are immortal you dont need to dodge and block.
In any case, this is ridiculous and destroys any fun in pvp for leveling people.

Sour grapes is all i am hearing. I could go make some leveling gear hop into banished cells with all the cp i got and solo it at level 6 (after finishing crafting certifications) and come out level 9 or maybe 10 then queue for a random normal and come out of that level 16 or 17. If you dont wish to do the same that's on you. Play how you wish just like they are playing how they wish. Trying to say it's ok for you to play how you wish but that everyone else has to play by your rules is what's hypocritical.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS2S1s716R8

DeusVult3

You people have twisted this thread, which started with reasonable replies, into something about my skill.
I challenged these fools to a duel in normal gear and they all refuse because they see i have similar scores to them and I'm in Wizard's Riposte and Kingslayer.
Stop bitching about me since it does not matter who is behind the keyboard when you are fighting this Stamden that is literally IMMORTAL.
I use the same burst rotation i use on anyone else, which i can kill, but on him it didn't even do 1% dmg. That difference is beyond logic, it is the footprint of a broken system and ZOS incompetence.
I did not know these people exist, so i do not believe he is hacking anymore.
It remains a very dumb thing to do and these people should get a life. Literally.

DeusVult3

thissocalledflower wrote: »

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DeusVult3 wrote: »

It is not about me being better. I dominate most games where there are no such morons.
My apologies, i cannot name people that do this otherwise.
Who the fudge crafts, grinds and optimizes low level chars in all gold stuff and buys skills. This is ridiculous.
@Sanctum74 you know what's ironic and rather hypocritical of you? That i'm just reading a post from August 2019 where you were attacked and bashed by several morons like this guy who do the same thing, whilst you were defending people like me.
You even claimed leveling through BG's should not be allowed as soon as you hit 50.

My build is fine and i know how to play, again, i rek most normal matches.
These dudes don't even bother to block because of how broken their gear must be.
"name shaming"...all of the players that do this should be name shamed. This practice of twinking hard should be impossible to do. They should just make the pvp sets that drop from the boxes to be the only ones you can gear up in BG's with. And no *** gold, that's ***.
And i even see them not having amazing skill, at all. Maybe they don't try because of the gear and when you are immortal you dont need to dodge and block.
In any case, this is ridiculous and destroys any fun in pvp for leveling people.

Sour grapes is all i am hearing. I could go make some leveling gear hop into banished cells with all the cp i got and solo it at level 6 (after finishing crafting certifications) and come out level 9 or maybe 10 then queue for a random normal and come out of that level 16 or 17. If you dont wish to do the same that's on you. Play how you wish just like they are playing how they wish. Trying to say it's ok for you to play how you wish but that everyone else has to play by your rules is what's hypocritical.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS2S1s716R8

You wrote many words but said nothing.
I do not care how people level up lol. You are totally off-topic.