I know this question has probably been asked before, but I am curious even if we don't get a full revamp, what about potentially adding new graphical effects to the world to at least bring it up to par with the new zones? Improved draw distancing and shadows, maybe even improved lighting. I understand why we probably won't get a full texture revamp because that takes time, but even to include some new graphical feature set is better than not doing anything. It is really starting to look dated now compared to it's most recent zones, beautiful still, but dated.
Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »This is only my opinion I do not force anyone to follow it. All this things with graphics "outdating" is not the trouble of graphics, but the trouble of minds of those who somehow feel it outdated. Were you happy with ESO graphics 6 years ago, was the game beautiful to you? I guess, yes, otherwise you wouldn't have been playing it all these years. So what happened now? Was it the graphics outdated or it is your mind changed? That's it.
Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »I know this question has probably been asked before, but I am curious even if we don't get a full revamp, what about potentially adding new graphical effects to the world to at least bring it up to par with the new zones? Improved draw distancing and shadows, maybe even improved lighting. I understand why we probably won't get a full texture revamp because that takes time, but even to include some new graphical feature set is better than not doing anything. It is really starting to look dated now compared to it's most recent zones, beautiful still, but dated.
This is only my opinion I do not force anyone to follow it. All this things with graphics "outdating" is not the trouble of graphics, but the trouble of minds of those who somehow feel it outdated. Were you happy with ESO graphics 6 years ago, was the game beautiful to you? I guess, yes, otherwise you wouldn't have been playing it all these years. So what happened now? Was it the graphics outdated or it is your mind changed? That's it.
I remember times when TES III graphics was almost at the top of that time. Especially after TES II. A beautiful game and I still consider it beautiful today. But today the same people think it's graphics is outdated and might not like what they see. Making a better picture on the same subject is good (like they've depicted Vvardenfell in the ESO). But changing, or "improving" the very same picture of a famous artist only because it is "outdated" is lunacy. You don't like it - don't watch it and let those who value it take pleasure from what they like. Yes, this is my opinion.
Some things should stay unchanged regardless of it's age. The best is always the enemy to the good.
Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »This is only my opinion I do not force anyone to follow it. All this things with graphics "outdating" is not the trouble of graphics, but the trouble of minds of those who somehow feel it outdated. Were you happy with ESO graphics 6 years ago, was the game beautiful to you? I guess, yes, otherwise you wouldn't have been playing it all these years. So what happened now? Was it the graphics outdated or it is your mind changed? That's it.
Not exactly. The technology stance of the game has changed with time. Today, the game is capable of things that were not possible when the game first launched. Zone and dungeon design reflects this.
Additionally, they were rushed for time with the original zones. There are a lot of places where "cut and paste" was used, particularly in delves. There were a lot of "identical" delves at launch, which they did some work to revise and expand them, after launch.
So, yes, I could go for an update pass over the original zones to bring them up to date with technology and art styles. Heck, if we can get them to fix the low resolution walls of Davon's Watch, that would be a start.
Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »I know this question has probably been asked before, but I am curious even if we don't get a full revamp, what about potentially adding new graphical effects to the world to at least bring it up to par with the new zones? Improved draw distancing and shadows, maybe even improved lighting. I understand why we probably won't get a full texture revamp because that takes time, but even to include some new graphical feature set is better than not doing anything. It is really starting to look dated now compared to it's most recent zones, beautiful still, but dated.
This is only my opinion I do not force anyone to follow it. All this things with graphics "outdating" is not the trouble of graphics, but the trouble of minds of those who somehow feel it outdated. Were you happy with ESO graphics 6 years ago, was the game beautiful to you? I guess, yes, otherwise you wouldn't have been playing it all these years. So what happened now? Was it the graphics outdated or it is your mind changed? That's it.
I remember times when TES III graphics was almost at the top of that time. Especially after TES II. A beautiful game and I still consider it beautiful today. But today the same people think it's graphics is outdated and might not like what they see. Making a better picture on the same subject is good (like they've depicted Vvardenfell in the ESO). But changing, or "improving" the very same picture of a famous artist only because it is "outdated" is lunacy. You don't like it - don't watch it and let those who value it take pleasure from what they like. Yes, this is my opinion.
Some things should stay unchanged regardless of it's age. The best is always the enemy to the good.
But ESO isn’t a philosophical topic or a painting by a famous artist. I understand your point though.
Games are made with the capabilities of their time period. You mention how TES III was fantastic for its time (my second favorite TES game btw..... Oblivion was my personal childhood favorite). If Morrowind was remastered it would look fantastic. I HIGHLY recommend you look up “Skywind”, an astonishingly well done recreation of TES III: Morrowind in Skyrim’s engine.
In terms of ESO, the 2014 base game zones were fine. However, as time passed, ZOS has developed far more aptitude for their world building and dynamic effects. The DLC zones are all more detailed compared to the base game zones. It’s not really debatable that Summerset is more detailed than Glenumbra for example.
The same team which created Glenumbra can go back and revamp their old work. In fact it is something which ZOS has publicly stated they are interested inThe only reason it hasn’t happened is because they haven’t had time to do it.
Unlikely.Do you think the original game world will recieve a revamp at all?
Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »I know this question has probably been asked before, but I am curious even if we don't get a full revamp, what about potentially adding new graphical effects to the world to at least bring it up to par with the new zones? Improved draw distancing and shadows, maybe even improved lighting. I understand why we probably won't get a full texture revamp because that takes time, but even to include some new graphical feature set is better than not doing anything. It is really starting to look dated now compared to it's most recent zones, beautiful still, but dated.
This is only my opinion I do not force anyone to follow it. All this things with graphics "outdating" is not the trouble of graphics, but the trouble of minds of those who somehow feel it outdated. Were you happy with ESO graphics 6 years ago, was the game beautiful to you? I guess, yes, otherwise you wouldn't have been playing it all these years. So what happened now? Was it the graphics outdated or it is your mind changed? That's it.
I remember times when TES III graphics was almost at the top of that time. Especially after TES II. A beautiful game and I still consider it beautiful today. But today the same people think it's graphics is outdated and might not like what they see. Making a better picture on the same subject is good (like they've depicted Vvardenfell in the ESO). But changing, or "improving" the very same picture of a famous artist only because it is "outdated" is lunacy. You don't like it - don't watch it and let those who value it take pleasure from what they like. Yes, this is my opinion.
Some things should stay unchanged regardless of it's age. The best is always the enemy to the good.
But ESO isn’t a philosophical topic or a painting by a famous artist. I understand your point though.
Games are made with the capabilities of their time period. You mention how TES III was fantastic for its time (my second favorite TES game btw..... Oblivion was my personal childhood favorite). If Morrowind was remastered it would look fantastic. I HIGHLY recommend you look up “Skywind”, an astonishingly well done recreation of TES III: Morrowind in Skyrim’s engine.
In terms of ESO, the 2014 base game zones were fine. However, as time passed, ZOS has developed far more aptitude for their world building and dynamic effects. The DLC zones are all more detailed compared to the base game zones. It’s not really debatable that Summerset is more detailed than Glenumbra for example.
The same team which created Glenumbra can go back and revamp their old work. In fact it is something which ZOS has publicly stated they are interested inThe only reason it hasn’t happened is because they haven’t had time to do it.
You were lucky to have TES IV in your childhood!.. I'm aware of Skywind, though thanks for a recommendation. I like classical TES III with no graphics enhancing mods. Read my message to Elsonso above, please. Tastes differ
:)..
Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »I know this question has probably been asked before, but I am curious even if we don't get a full revamp, what about potentially adding new graphical effects to the world to at least bring it up to par with the new zones? Improved draw distancing and shadows, maybe even improved lighting. I understand why we probably won't get a full texture revamp because that takes time, but even to include some new graphical feature set is better than not doing anything. It is really starting to look dated now compared to it's most recent zones, beautiful still, but dated.
This is only my opinion I do not force anyone to follow it. All this things with graphics "outdating" is not the trouble of graphics, but the trouble of minds of those who somehow feel it outdated. Were you happy with ESO graphics 6 years ago, was the game beautiful to you? I guess, yes, otherwise you wouldn't have been playing it all these years. So what happened now? Was it the graphics outdated or it is your mind changed? That's it.
I remember times when TES III graphics was almost at the top of that time. Especially after TES II. A beautiful game and I still consider it beautiful today. But today the same people think it's graphics is outdated and might not like what they see. Making a better picture on the same subject is good (like they've depicted Vvardenfell in the ESO). But changing, or "improving" the very same picture of a famous artist only because it is "outdated" is lunacy. You don't like it - don't watch it and let those who value it take pleasure from what they like. Yes, this is my opinion.
Some things should stay unchanged regardless of it's age. The best is always the enemy to the good.
But ESO isn’t a philosophical topic or a painting by a famous artist. I understand your point though.
Games are made with the capabilities of their time period. You mention how TES III was fantastic for its time (my second favorite TES game btw..... Oblivion was my personal childhood favorite). If Morrowind was remastered it would look fantastic. I HIGHLY recommend you look up “Skywind”, an astonishingly well done recreation of TES III: Morrowind in Skyrim’s engine.
In terms of ESO, the 2014 base game zones were fine. However, as time passed, ZOS has developed far more aptitude for their world building and dynamic effects. The DLC zones are all more detailed compared to the base game zones. It’s not really debatable that Summerset is more detailed than Glenumbra for example.
The same team which created Glenumbra can go back and revamp their old work. In fact it is something which ZOS has publicly stated they are interested inThe only reason it hasn’t happened is because they haven’t had time to do it.
You were lucky to have TES IV in your childhood!.. I'm aware of Skywind, though thanks for a recommendation. I like classical TES III with no graphics enhancing mods. Read my message to Elsonso above, please. Tastes differ
:)..
Tastes differ which is fair. Yeah I was lucky lol, hands down TES is my favorite series. Oblivion in particular will always be special to me and I can remember a large portion of what I played even though it was so long ago. I even named some of my characters after them.
I took the name Armand Christophe on PS4 NA
..? Which MMOs had you been playing? Even WoW and Lineage 2 drew grassfxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »I was happy with ESO graphics when it came out in 2014. It was mindblowing for a MMO, which usually don't even draw the grass. But when they made Summerset... you can feel that difference versus the old zones, and I would love to see the old zones updated.
Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »I know this question has probably been asked before, but I am curious even if we don't get a full revamp, what about potentially adding new graphical effects to the world to at least bring it up to par with the new zones? Improved draw distancing and shadows, maybe even improved lighting. I understand why we probably won't get a full texture revamp because that takes time, but even to include some new graphical feature set is better than not doing anything. It is really starting to look dated now compared to it's most recent zones, beautiful still, but dated.
This is only my opinion I do not force anyone to follow it. All this things with graphics "outdating" is not the trouble of graphics, but the trouble of minds of those who somehow feel it outdated. Were you happy with ESO graphics 6 years ago, was the game beautiful to you? I guess, yes, otherwise you wouldn't have been playing it all these years. So what happened now? Was it the graphics outdated or it is your mind changed? That's it.
I remember times when TES III graphics was almost at the top of that time. Especially after TES II. A beautiful game and I still consider it beautiful today. But today the same people think it's graphics is outdated and might not like what they see. Making a better picture on the same subject is good (like they've depicted Vvardenfell in the ESO). But changing, or "improving" the very same picture of a famous artist only because it is "outdated" is lunacy. You don't like it - don't watch it and let those who value it take pleasure from what they like. Yes, this is my opinion.
Some things should stay unchanged regardless of it's age. The best is always the enemy to the good.
Darkstorne wrote: »At the very least ESO needs a draw distance and flora overhaul if it’s going to survive against next gen competition from 2021 onwards. But since ZOS have been hard at work on their next MMO for a while now, I don’t think they care about this game’s future. I think the goal was to see out this generation with ESO, and anything beyond that is a bonus but not worth working hard to fight for. They won’t care if numbers start dropping next gen.