What CP points do I use to get the most damage out of puncturing sweeps

PooPsie337

I've noticed by respecing my CP points 9271626 times that it's not just master at arm's that buff sweeps, bc when I take out of elemental expert and put 81 in master at arm's my regular crit numbers drop some. So does anyone have a perfecto formulae to maximize my [snip] sweeps?? 🤔🤔🤔

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WrathOfInnos

As of 5.2.5 it should be considered direct damage and scale with Master at Arms. Thaumaturge should not affect Sweeps at all. Elemental Expert, Elfborn, and Spell Erosion all buff Sweeps too.

Aznox

^what he said + if you are on PC : https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1736-Constellations.html

Stx

Eso-skillbook.com is a good resource for showing what cp effects which skills. It is kept up to date as far as I know.

PooPsie337

Yes I brought thaurmaflauge or how you spell it all the way down to 15 and no effect which was expected. Now what wasn't expected is I was at 6110 for each hit of sweeps and I had 61 in ele expert 71 in elf born and 67 in master at arm's. So I pulled some points from staff expert and thaurmawhatever to get the following: 75 master at arm's, 49 ele expert, and 75 in elfborn and that brought me up to 6553 each hit of sweeps. I'm playing around with it until I reach optimal performance. Also when I first started this hit and miss endeavor I had just 10 in spell erosion as per the alcast pve build but he doesn't spam sweeps so i made an executive decision to play with the points till I see progress and putting 35 in spell erosion a while back helped out a lot.

WrathOfInnos

A lot of those numbers are not jump points and round down. This is worth a read: https://alcasthq.com/eso-championpoints-jumppoints/

Vajrak

PooPsie337 wrote: »

Yes I brought thaurmaflauge or how you spell it all the way down to 15 and no effect which was expected. Now what wasn't expected is I was at 6110 for each hit of sweeps and I had 61 in ele expert 71 in elf born and 67 in master at arm's. So I pulled some points from staff expert and thaurmawhatever to get the following: 75 master at arm's, 49 ele expert, and 75 in elfborn and that brought me up to 6553 each hit of sweeps. I'm playing around with it until I reach optimal performance. Also when I first started this hit and miss endeavor I had just 10 in spell erosion as per the alcast pve build but he doesn't spam sweeps so i made an executive decision to play with the points till I see progress and putting 35 in spell erosion a while back helped out a lot.

Made the right choice. Don't follow Alcast. Period. You may want to try raising elemental export up a little and dropping elfborn down a bit for a better balance, but you're on the right track.

Hotdog_23

PooPsie337 wrote: »

Yes I brought thaurmaflauge or how you spell it all the way down to 15 and no effect which was expected. Now what wasn't expected is I was at 6110 for each hit of sweeps and I had 61 in ele expert 71 in elf born and 67 in master at arm's. So I pulled some points from staff expert and thaurmawhatever to get the following: 75 master at arm's, 49 ele expert, and 75 in elfborn and that brought me up to 6553 each hit of sweeps. I'm playing around with it until I reach optimal performance. Also when I first started this hit and miss endeavor I had just 10 in spell erosion as per the alcast pve build but he doesn't spam sweeps so i made an executive decision to play with the points till I see progress and putting 35 in spell erosion a while back helped out a lot.

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

WrathOfInnos

10 Spell Erosion is ideal only in 2 scenarios:
- Optimized trial group with high uptimes of Major and Minor Breach, Torug’s Infused Crusher, and Alkosh
- 21mil Iron Atronach target dummy

If you’re not doing one of these 2 things then yes you’ll want more points in Spell Erosion. A pretty good starting point for CP’s is to try to hit 56 with all the major ones, after this diminishing returns become more significant. Something like:
- 56 Elemental Expert
- 56 Elfborn
- 56 Master at Arms
- 56 Thaumaturge
- 46 Spell Erosion

Then do a few parses and you can shift points around as needed, maybe freeing up some Spell Erosion depending on what debuffs you have access to. Pay attention to direct damage (light attacks, purifying, sweeps, Burning Light, etc.) vs damage over time (Blazing Spear, Wall, Ritual of Retribution, Burning, Radiant Oppression, etc.) and adjust the ratio of Thaum vs Master accordingly. If they are pretty even then consider adding any extra points into Ele Expert to get to 64. There’s also a nice boost if you can get to 75 in Thaumaturge since you’ll do 10% more damage to off-balance enemies with the exploiter passive.

I would not put any points in Staff Expert on a Templar because you have easy access to empower from Barrage (which is additive, not multiplicative) and fewer Light Attacks than other classes with Sweeps and beams.

PooPsie337

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

10 Spell Erosion is ideal only in 2 scenarios:
- Optimized trial group with high uptimes of Major and Minor Breach, Torug’s Infused Crusher, and Alkosh
- 21mil Iron Atronach target dummy

If you’re not doing one of these 2 things then yes you’ll want more points in Spell Erosion. A pretty good starting point for CP’s is to try to hit 56 with all the major ones, after this diminishing returns become more significant. Something like:
- 56 Elemental Expert
- 56 Elfborn
- 56 Master at Arms
- 56 Thaumaturge
- 46 Spell Erosion

Then do a few parses and you can shift points around as needed, maybe freeing up some Spell Erosion depending on what debuffs you have access to. Pay attention to direct damage (light attacks, purifying, sweeps, Burning Light, etc.) vs damage over time (Blazing Spear, Wall, Ritual of Retribution, Burning, Radiant Oppression, etc.) and adjust the ratio of Thaum vs Master accordingly. If they are pretty even then consider adding any extra points into Ele Expert to get to 64. There’s also a nice boost if you can get to 75 in Thaumaturge since you’ll do 10% more damage to off-balance enemies with the exploiter passive.

I would not put any points in Staff Expert on a Templar because you have easy access to empower from Barrage (which is additive, not multiplicative) and fewer Light Attacks than other classes with Sweeps and beams.

Ahh yes very nice stuff (I can't curse or even change a couple of letters in a curse word the FCC shall get me again like in of post

PooPsie337

But all in all I can say Everytime I need good solid backed up answers and details about each part of said questions y'all got it going on !!! Good job peeps!!!