Official Discussion Thread for "Greymoor’s Western Skyrim & Blackreach Bring All-New Adventures"

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This is the official discussion thread for the "Greymoor’s Western Skyrim & Blackreach Bring All-New Adventures" blog article.

Adventure awaits within the mountainous region of Western Skyrim and the dark underworld of Blackreach. Preview some of the new locations and challenges arriving with the upcoming Greymoor Chapter!

Enodoc

Western Skyrim features the holds of Haafingar, Hjaalmarch, and Karthald

Hmm....
What is a "Karthald"?

Elsonso

Enodoc wrote: »

Western Skyrim features the holds of Haafingar, Hjaalmarch, and Karthald

Hmm....
What is a "Karthald"?

The Missing Hold.

WildRaptorX

Can you guys take the locks off the houses in Morthal? Please don’t restrict us. Again.

Elsonso

Keylun wrote: »

Can you guys take the locks off the houses in Morthal? Please don’t restrict us. Again.

Too late to ask, but, yeah... so tired of locked and barred buildings.

Cireous

#unlockallthecabinswithyourextraweek

Also, Karthald. I can't find this anywhere either. WHAT IS THIS.

BlissfulDeluge

Cireous wrote: »

#unlockallthecabinswithyourextraweek

Also, Karthald. I can't find this anywhere either. WHAT IS THIS.

I assume one of the holds must have been renamed, since Hogondar Hammerhurl mentions there being nine holds in City of Ash 2.

There's no mention of it anywhere as far as I know in the lore, though. >.>

majulook

The web site https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Western_Skyrim

Under points of interest lists a "Karthald Great Lift"

Mix

Karthald.

Well, we do know of several places with 'Karth' in the name, presumably after the Karth river (flows from Markarth to Solitude).

Karthspire
Karthwasten

Perhaps Karthald "hold" is part of The Reach, maybe declared a hold by Reachmen? or maybe The Reach is currently in turmoil and split and the northern part is "Karthald" right now?

Enodoc

Enodoc wrote: »

Western Skyrim features the holds of Haafingar, Hjaalmarch, and Karthald

Hmm....
What is a "Karthald"?

Mix wrote: »

Perhaps Karthald "hold" is part of The Reach, maybe declared a hold by Reachmen? or maybe The Reach is currently in turmoil and split and the northern part is "Karthald" right now?

Seriously though, you're probably spot on. Most of The Reach is officially independent during this time period and is run by the Despot of Markarth, so Karthald is probably a part of the Reach that remains under the jurisdiction of Western Skyrim.

Faulgor

Enodoc wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Western Skyrim features the holds of Haafingar, Hjaalmarch, and Karthald

Hmm....
What is a "Karthald"?

Mix wrote: »

Perhaps Karthald "hold" is part of The Reach, maybe declared a hold by Reachmen? or maybe The Reach is currently in turmoil and split and the northern part is "Karthald" right now?

Seriously though, you're probably spot on. Most of The Reach is officially independent during this time period and is run by the Despot of Markarth, so Karthald is probably a part of the Reach that remains under the jurisdiction of Western Skyrim.

Yeah. The Reach has a tumultuous past, and I'm not sure when it was first established as one of the holds (was it at Old Hroldan?)... but there were always 9 afaik, so it appears Karthald is filling that role at this time. Which territory it occupies, we'll see. It might be in parts of 4th era Haafingar, Hjaalmarch or even Whiterun as well.

I wonder what that means for Falkreath, though. It has been part of "Colovia" at least twice IIRC, including the later parts of the interregnum. Did the Nords declare a new 9th hold during that time or wing it with 8?

Banana

Looking for to it

Elsonso

Faulgor wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Western Skyrim features the holds of Haafingar, Hjaalmarch, and Karthald

Hmm....
What is a "Karthald"?

Mix wrote: »

Perhaps Karthald "hold" is part of The Reach, maybe declared a hold by Reachmen? or maybe The Reach is currently in turmoil and split and the northern part is "Karthald" right now?

Seriously though, you're probably spot on. Most of The Reach is officially independent during this time period and is run by the Despot of Markarth, so Karthald is probably a part of the Reach that remains under the jurisdiction of Western Skyrim.

Yeah. The Reach has a tumultuous past, and I'm not sure when it was first established as one of the holds (was it at Old Hroldan?)... but there were always 9 afaik, so it appears Karthald is filling that role at this time. Which territory it occupies, we'll see. It might be in parts of 4th era Haafingar, Hjaalmarch or even Whiterun as well.

I wonder what that means for Falkreath, though. It has been part of "Colovia" at least twice IIRC, including the later parts of the interregnum. Did the Nords declare a new 9th hold during that time or wing it with 8?

The Thalmor hate the number "9", so if they have any say in the matter during this Era...