Nemesis7884 wrote: »farming for flame destruction staves for this set has unfortunately crushed my spirit
WrathOfInnos wrote: »Yes. I’m not sure if the Spell Damage applies to the skill that procs it though, so you might end up with 1 unbuffed Force Pulse cast every 4s.
Nemesis7884 wrote: »farming for flame destruction staves for this set has unfortunately crushed my spirit
I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Rave the Histborn wrote: »I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Why would you limit it to just sword if you know you need a shield? Cutting out pieces isn't going to improve your drop chances
Rave the Histborn wrote: »I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Why would you limit it to just sword if you know you need a shield? Cutting out pieces isn't going to improve your drop chances
What? Decreasing the amount of pieces you get would reduce the possible loot pool, therefore increasing your chance to actually get what you want. Because when someone wants succ, chances are that 99% of the time they want the inferno staff.
Especially if it's a redundant piece, if you need a sword and board succession build for some unknown reason, it makes no difference whether the weapon you are using is a dagger or a sword or a mace or whatever, but it does matter if you want to make a dual wield succ, therefore cutting out maces, daggers and axes would remove 3 possible pieces of gear that are completely useless, from the loot pool.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Rave the Histborn wrote: »I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Why would you limit it to just sword if you know you need a shield? Cutting out pieces isn't going to improve your drop chances
What? Decreasing the amount of pieces you get would reduce the possible loot pool, therefore increasing your chance to actually get what you want. Because when someone wants succ, chances are that 99% of the time they want the inferno staff.
Especially if it's a redundant piece, if you need a sword and board succession build for some unknown reason, it makes no difference whether the weapon you are using is a dagger or a sword or a mace or whatever, but it does matter if you want to make a dual wield succ, therefore cutting out maces, daggers and axes would remove 3 possible pieces of gear that are completely useless, from the loot pool.
What?
You're assuming a player would only want swords for the extra damage from the dual wield passives. When they might instead want maces to ignore an opponent's physical resistance.
I'm not saying a dual wield succession build would be an optimal setup ... but there is a flaw in your argument too.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Rave the Histborn wrote: »I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Why would you limit it to just sword if you know you need a shield? Cutting out pieces isn't going to improve your drop chances
What? Decreasing the amount of pieces you get would reduce the possible loot pool, therefore increasing your chance to actually get what you want. Because when someone wants succ, chances are that 99% of the time they want the inferno staff.
Especially if it's a redundant piece, if you need a sword and board succession build for some unknown reason, it makes no difference whether the weapon you are using is a dagger or a sword or a mace or whatever, but it does matter if you want to make a dual wield succ, therefore cutting out maces, daggers and axes would remove 3 possible pieces of gear that are completely useless, from the loot pool.
What?
You're assuming a player would only want swords for the extra damage from the dual wield passives. When they might instead want maces to ignore an opponent's physical resistance.
I'm not saying a dual wield succession build would be an optimal setup ... but there is a flaw in your argument too.
I am 99 % sure you are joking, but yea, it's succession, phys penetration is literally useless.
mpicklesster wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Rave the Histborn wrote: »I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Why would you limit it to just sword if you know you need a shield? Cutting out pieces isn't going to improve your drop chances
What? Decreasing the amount of pieces you get would reduce the possible loot pool, therefore increasing your chance to actually get what you want. Because when someone wants succ, chances are that 99% of the time they want the inferno staff.
Especially if it's a redundant piece, if you need a sword and board succession build for some unknown reason, it makes no difference whether the weapon you are using is a dagger or a sword or a mace or whatever, but it does matter if you want to make a dual wield succ, therefore cutting out maces, daggers and axes would remove 3 possible pieces of gear that are completely useless, from the loot pool.
What?
You're assuming a player would only want swords for the extra damage from the dual wield passives. When they might instead want maces to ignore an opponent's physical resistance.
I'm not saying a dual wield succession build would be an optimal setup ... but there is a flaw in your argument too.
Insisting that maces be in the loot table for Elemental Succession makes about as much sense as insisting that inferno staves be in the loot table for Blood Drinker. Do you see the logical incompatibility there?
One is a magicka DPS set--which won't benefit at all from extra physical penetration. The other is a physical damage set--which won't benefit at all from a magic-based weapon.
Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
Dropping set weapons (i.e., non-Maelstrom weapons) over the last 3 rounds instead of only final round might help reduce the farming frustration.
Rave the Histborn wrote: »I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Why would you limit it to just sword if you know you need a shield? Cutting out pieces isn't going to improve your drop chances
What? Decreasing the amount of pieces you get would reduce the possible loot pool, therefore increasing your chance to actually get what you want. Because when someone wants succ, chances are that 99% of the time they want the inferno staff.
Especially if it's a redundant piece, if you need a sword and board succession build for some unknown reason, it makes no difference whether the weapon you are using is a dagger or a sword or a mace or whatever, but it does matter if you want to make a dual wield succ, therefore cutting out maces, daggers and axes would remove 3 possible pieces of gear that are completely useless, from the loot pool.
I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Dagoth_Rac wrote: »mpicklesster wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »Rave the Histborn wrote: »I went from 1k cp to almost 1050 at this point, and i still haven;t got a single inferno staff, and i'm *** pissed.
This is worse than any other weapon grind, because at least in dungeons you have a chance for the drop in chests and stuff, here? Only last chest, that is it, coupled with objectively bad pieces of loot, it's almost impossible to get one.
Who the *** needs a dagger of succession anyway? If you are gonna think about a sword and board build, just limit it to sword, so it's also useful for dual wield, but obviously, that would be too smart for zos to do. "smart loot"
I even got a bow of succession, like wtf? And this is not even considering the other sets, that also have their stupid pieces of loot that no one in their right mind will ever use.
Why would you limit it to just sword if you know you need a shield? Cutting out pieces isn't going to improve your drop chances
What? Decreasing the amount of pieces you get would reduce the possible loot pool, therefore increasing your chance to actually get what you want. Because when someone wants succ, chances are that 99% of the time they want the inferno staff.
Especially if it's a redundant piece, if you need a sword and board succession build for some unknown reason, it makes no difference whether the weapon you are using is a dagger or a sword or a mace or whatever, but it does matter if you want to make a dual wield succ, therefore cutting out maces, daggers and axes would remove 3 possible pieces of gear that are completely useless, from the loot pool.
What?
You're assuming a player would only want swords for the extra damage from the dual wield passives. When they might instead want maces to ignore an opponent's physical resistance.
I'm not saying a dual wield succession build would be an optimal setup ... but there is a flaw in your argument too.
Insisting that maces be in the loot table for Elemental Succession makes about as much sense as insisting that inferno staves be in the loot table for Blood Drinker. Do you see the logical incompatibility there?
One is a magicka DPS set--which won't benefit at all from extra physical penetration. The other is a physical damage set--which won't benefit at all from a magic-based weapon.
The "smart loot" feature means you will not get a piece of gear that, literally, cannot meet it's own set conditions. It does not mean that you will get a piece of gear that is perfectly aligned with the meta. You will not get a bow with a "adds 400 weapon damage to your two-handed abilities" bonus because a bow, literally, cannot proc that bonus.
ZOS just give you pieces of gear that work. It then lets the players figure out the meta. Tanks running lightning staves to apply off-balance? Healers running Martial Knowledge set? None of these make much sense at first and are very unlikely to be how ZOS had their usage in mind at release. And PvP is a whole other ball game, where players often need to be tank, healer, and DPS all rolled into one and all kinds of weird off-meta builds exist.
I think the lack of random chest spawns and lack of other players to share gear with hurts the RNG in Maelstrom. But I think that if ZOS made "smart loot" mean "give gear that matches the meta" it would be a mistake. There are actually some surprisingly odd gear choices that are currently meta.
Dropping set weapons (i.e., non-Maelstrom weapons) over the last 3 rounds instead of only final round might help reduce the farming frustration. Or maybe giving double set drops on vMA compared to nMA.
so Force Pulse will instead of 400 spd will use 1200 spd for total final damage? that's quite broken if true.
so Force Pulse will instead of 400 spd will use 1200 spd for total final damage? that's quite broken if true.
no...
it will use 400 on cold, on lightning and on fire dmg. not 1200.
its no different than 400 dmg on new moons etc.
I use the set on magdk since its basically all fire and magcro since the only skill that is magic is the mages skill
so Force Pulse will instead of 400 spd will use 1200 spd for total final damage? that's quite broken if true.
no...
it will use 400 on cold, on lightning and on fire dmg. not 1200.
its no different than 400 dmg on new moons etc.
I use the set on magdk since its basically all fire and magcro since the only skill that is magic is the mages skill
let's say the spell deals 1000 frost, 1000 fire, 1000 shock. You add the 550 spd from succ. You hit all with all 3 elements, so all 3 buffs from the succ set activate. So you deal 1550 frost, 1550 fire, 1550 shock? meaning you use this set 3x in a single cast?
Force pulse will proc this right? And since its 4 seconds per element you can proc all 3 elements up at the same time and keep them up essentially 100% of the time right?
so Force Pulse will instead of 400 spd will use 1200 spd for total final damage? that's quite broken if true.
no...
it will use 400 on cold, on lightning and on fire dmg. not 1200.
its no different than 400 dmg on new moons etc.
I use the set on magdk since its basically all fire and magcro since the only skill that is magic is the mages skill
let's say the spell deals 1000 frost, 1000 fire, 1000 shock. You add the 550 spd from succ. You hit all with all 3 elements, so all 3 buffs from the succ set activate. So you deal 1550 frost, 1550 fire, 1550 shock? meaning you use this set 3x in a single cast?
how is that different if you have any other set that just adds 500 spell damage?
so Force Pulse will instead of 400 spd will use 1200 spd for total final damage? that's quite broken if true.
no...
it will use 400 on cold, on lightning and on fire dmg. not 1200.
its no different than 400 dmg on new moons etc.
I use the set on magdk since its basically all fire and magcro since the only skill that is magic is the mages skill
let's say the spell deals 1000 frost, 1000 fire, 1000 shock. You add the 550 spd from succ. You hit all with all 3 elements, so all 3 buffs from the succ set activate. So you deal 1550 frost, 1550 fire, 1550 shock? meaning you use this set 3x in a single cast?
how is that different if you have any other set that just adds 500 spell damage?
JackSmirkingRevenge wrote: »Love this set on my magcro
so Force Pulse will instead of 400 spd will use 1200 spd for total final damage? that's quite broken if true.
no...
it will use 400 on cold, on lightning and on fire dmg. not 1200.
its no different than 400 dmg on new moons etc.
I use the set on magdk since its basically all fire and magcro since the only skill that is magic is the mages skill
let's say the spell deals 1000 frost, 1000 fire, 1000 shock. You add the 550 spd from succ. You hit all with all 3 elements, so all 3 buffs from the succ set activate. So you deal 1550 frost, 1550 fire, 1550 shock? meaning you use this set 3x in a single cast?
how is that different if you have any other set that just adds 500 spell damage?
well from my example from 3k damage total with 500 more "spell" damage it would be 3500. With this set that buffs each element individually, it reaches 4650?