UNDAUNTED INFILTRATOR Make no sense you must update.

phoenixkungfu

THE UNDAUNTED SETS makes no sense. They are OUTDATED.

Empower:
This buff type now increases the damage of your next fully-charged Heavy Attack by 2500, rather than increasing Light Attack damage by 40%.

So this means the undaunted 5 peices set bonus is less then empower. This just dont make sense. Also the 4th peice crit bonus doesn't make sense.
The undaunted sets need a complete rework. THE UNDAUNTED SETS HASN'T BEEN BALANCE IN 4 YEARS. That's insane with all the changes in eso. CORRECTION THE UNDANTED SETS HAS NEVER BEEN UPDATED SINCE ITS RELEASE IN 2016 ARX.

Kadoin

At least you don't use arch-mage like me I guess all the people that died to me wearing archmage and julianos were right: it was extremely OP...

phoenixkungfu

Julianos is a smh shame. Julianos out preforming the undaunted sets because proc sets dont crit. Which means julianos is a universal set which out performing a heavyattack set undaunted Infiltrator. Is a PRIME example of how outdated a weapon critical is on a intended magic damage heavy attack undaunted Infiltrator. ITS A DISGRACE the undaunted sets are overlooked every update to heavy attack sets and changes.

Darkenarlol

https://eso-sets.com/set/undaunted-infiltrator
(5 items) When you use an ability that costs Magicka, your Light Attacks deal an additional 774 damage and Heavy Attacks deal an additional 1161 damage for 10 seconds.

1) i don't see empower on undaunted infiltrator set

2) it is a good set for heavy attack build, leave it alone

phoenixkungfu

Darkenarlol wrote: »

https://eso-sets.com/set/undaunted-infiltrator
(5 items) When you use an ability that costs Magicka, your Light Attacks deal an additional 774 damage and Heavy Attacks deal an additional 1161 damage for 10 seconds.

1) i don't see empower on undaunted infiltrator set

2) it is a good set for heavy attack build, leave it alone

SMH, 4 PEICE ADD 833 WEAPON CRITICAL.
THIS MAKE NO SENSE, I was there when the change was made to make all magic heavy attack scale off of magic damage.

BEFORE NO MATTER WHAT IT WAS WEAPON DAMAGE Critical." 3 YEARS AGO"

I was there when changes was made so that proc sets dont crit. Which indirectly made universal sets better then niche sets overall. 2 year's ago

With empower change being better than undaunted sets 5 peice. A empower crit is way better then undaunted sets. Undaunted set 1161 damage is extremely low.

phoenixkungfu

Honestly if heavy attack proc sets is simply outperformed by CRITICAL universal sets. Give undaunted sets something useful and unique to heavy attack. Like low 1161 bonus plus UNMOVABLE DURING HEAVY ATTACK CHANNEL. Something to compete to critical being better then proc sets.

Darkenarlol

weapon crit is a little downside but it is not a gamebreaker

and that set bonus is nowhere "extremely low" when used

in specific build that combines other sources of HA boosts

not meta build ofc but it is reasonably good and brings diversion

Mindcr0w

With empower change being better than undaunted sets 5 peice

Does the new empower apply to every tick of a lightning staff HA?

phoenixkungfu

Mindcr0w wrote: »

With empower change being better than undaunted sets 5 peice

Does the new empower apply to every tick of a lightning staff HA?

Mindcr0w wrote: »

With empower change being better than undaunted sets 5 peice

Does the new empower apply to every tick of a lightning staff HA?

I'm not sure but if it does that's a major game changer

ne.ga.kurai_ESO

Phoenix, you were the one complaining about the history of heavy attack builds. They will probably adjust these sets in a way that kills the heavy build and then you’re really going to be even more annoying.

Kel

ne.ga.kurai_ESO wrote: »

Phoenix, you were the one complaining about the history of heavy attack builds. They will probably adjust these sets in a way that kills the heavy build and then you’re really going to be even more annoying.

^
This.

Be extremely careful what you ask for in these nerf heavy lands.
You just might get it...with unintended consequences you may not like.
This is the new combat team, after all...

Kolzki

The 5 piece for UI is actually pretty good. Unlike empower it buffs both light and heavy attack damage. The main problems are 1) that 4 item set bonus buffing stam crit on a magic set and 2) the fact that it's a medium armour magic set. Undaunted unweaver has the same problems but is a light armour stamina set. My only complaint with swapping them over would be in the wasted investment for those of use who have transmuted jewellery.

phoenixkungfu

Kolzki wrote: »

The 5 piece for UI is actually pretty good. Unlike empower it buffs both light and heavy attack damage. The main problems are 1) that 4 item set bonus buffing stam crit on a magic set and 2) the fact that it's a medium armour magic set. Undaunted unweaver has the same problems but is a light armour stamina set. My only complaint with swapping them over would be in the wasted investment for those of use who have transmuted jewellery.

I agree with what most is saying. I like that undaunted is a jewelry/weapon set up. It great for end game grind. As far as the be careful what you ask for comments. I just can't sit back and not give my opinion on the heavy attack set patch notes. To be honest undaunted sets should always be in the conversation of heavy attack sets to use. Honestly in my opinion it should be best in slot. Unless their is a new set to replace it. MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT is sets that focus on a playstyle is not bis for that playstyle.