Strike from shadows vampire passive

Shadowasrial

I think that striking from shadows should increase both weapon and spell damage. The vamp skill line is already heavily magic focused. Was hoping that the vamp lord would at least have a stamina morph too.

Mortiis13

Then werewolf should have magicka morphs too.

Tommy_The_Gun

Sure, sure, let them have all the buffs in the world lol....

Shadowasrial

Mortiis13 wrote: »

Then werewolf should have magicka morphs too.

There’s no rule saying a mage can’t be turned so I agree there should be some werewolf magic

1mirg

The "strike from shadows" and "unnatural movement" passives shouldn't even be on there if you ask me. Since it's quite literally the NB Class Identity.

But sure, i'm game for them to make those passives even stronger. Why not, right?

ShadowHvo

Agreed, weapon damage should also be included in that passive. It doesn't make sense why it is only spell damage.

Strider__Roshin

1mirg wrote: »

The "strike from shadows" and "unnatural movement" passives shouldn't even be on there if you ask me. Since it's quite literally the NB Class Identity.

But sure, i'm game for them to make those passives even stronger. Why not, right?

I think they should also give vampires the ability to cloak. I think it's the only thing Nightblades have left.

Deathlord92

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I think that striking from shadows should increase both weapon and spell damage. The vamp skill line is already heavily magic focused. Was hoping that the vamp lord would at least have a stamina morph too.

Completely agree with you and I think the slash skill should have a stamina morph as well especially since it’s a melee skill

Shadowasrial

I hope they make some changes that will make vampire as viable for stamina

Langeston

No. Stamina is far stronger than magicka as it is, even without this passive.

OlumoGarbag

Mortiis13 wrote: »

Then werewolf should have magicka morphs too.

well ww heal is already magicka duh

iCaliban

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I hope they make some changes that will make vampire as viable for stamina

No. Stamina has more weapon lines and the last two classes had nearly all the damage abilities gutted in favor of stamina. Enough is enough.

No to green magicka

Shadowasrial

iCaliban wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I hope they make some changes that will make vampire as viable for stamina

No. Stamina has more weapon lines and the last two classes had nearly all the damage abilities gutted in favor of stamina. Enough is enough.

No to green magicka

Im not asking for any nerfs just asking for them to include stam as vamps are used by both stamina and magic classes

SshadowSscale

Strider__Roshin wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

The "strike from shadows" and "unnatural movement" passives shouldn't even be on there if you ask me. Since it's quite literally the NB Class Identity.

But sure, i'm game for them to make those passives even stronger. Why not, right?

I think they should also give vampires the ability to cloak. I think it's the only thing Nightblades have left.

Yeah read through the passives again..... Incase you missed it.... Vamo has cloak as a passive

xXMeowMeowXx

Langeston wrote: »

No. Stamina is far stronger than magicka as it is, even without this passive.

Things should be mixed up this time. With Warden the stamina version is better than magic version and with Necro the stamina version is top too.

Vampy is not a class but yh pushing it towards magic based characters seems the right move on ZOS part.
MgNB and MgDk will have a nice pairing with the new Vampy skill line.

After all WW’ were powerful by a *** ton on Stamina toons to the point of absurdity....

I miss making WW builds for laughs and nom nomming peeps.

Though ZOS’ making Vampys to benefit magic classes over Stamina is how it should be tbh.

Certainly making more classes interesting....

Gilvoth

i strongly agree.
haveing a stamina morph should be an option.

sunshineflame

What about health based skills too, some people invest their point into health. There should be three options for each skill, not just magic and stamina, but for health too 😎

Mindcr0w

Well some of the skills do indeed cost health so...

Varana

1mirg wrote: »

The "strike from shadows" and "unnatural movement" passives shouldn't even be on there if you ask me. Since it's quite literally the NB Class Identity.

You're wrong.
Nightblades' class identity is "dark red abilities" while vampires have their abilities colour-coded as "blood red".
So they're totally different!

YandereGirlfriend

Magic for Werewolves makes no sense from either a real-world mythological or Elder Scrolls lore perspective. Werewolves are always considered avatars of primal physical power, of man literally turned to beast.

On the other hand, vampire lore and ES lore can and does go both ways.

Sticking to ES lore, vampires have "inhuman strength" and toughness, qualities which are obviously physical in nature. Even if you are unpersuaded by this, consider Morrowind and their vampire clans, one of which was clearly the "warrior" clan and gave you huge buffs to the attribute Strength as well as physical skills such as blunt weapons, hand-to-hand, and heavy armor. Ask yourself, if vampirism bestowed no "stamina" advantages, why would this be so.

TLDR; Werewolf magicka makes no sense. ES vampires use both Magicka and Stamina and should have morphs accordingly.

ArchMikem

A high majority of players are Vampires, and ZOS is about to make Vampires a ton more powerful. I don't play Vampires.

PvP is going to get so much more fun...