Remove Cyrodiil Queue from IC

Plodeoca

Farming tel’vars is a lot easier today, you just make a big group, farm some tel’vars and when you have enough tel’vars you can just queue for Cyrodiil’s campaigns to get your tel’vars to a safe banker. This happens even in combat, are you fighting your opponents while carrying your tel’vars? No problem! Just queue to Cyrodiil to save your tel’vars!

Well this make the Imperial city stone retreat very useless and it removes the risk and reward of carrying huge amounts of tel’vars.

Other than that, since this mechanism is active there is a decrease of price of the Hakeijo rune because of course this makes easier to get without taking any risk.

This poll is to take back IC like it was before: “Once upon a day you had to run through sewers back to your base carrying your tel’vars with the risk of loosing them due to a ganker or a boss walking on your way”.

The “teleport” out of IC with tel’vars with a cyro queue is immersion breaker from my point of view. What’s yours?

redgreensunset

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Just make it so you can't port while in battle. No reason to make the queuing aystem even more complicated than it already is.

Plodeoca

Remove the queue to Cyrodiil’s campaigns

redgreensunset wrote: »

Just make it so you can't port while in battle. No reason to make the queuing aystem even more complicated than it already is.

This will not remove the fact that you can still farm an huge amount of tel’vars and just teleport out without any risk. You can (as a ganker for example) kill someone carrying 20k tel’vars, go out of combat and just,without risk, teleport out from ic without a “rush back” to your base trough sewers like it used to be years ago.

Royaji

Imperial Retreat stones are just 10k AP. It's peanuts for most players who seriously farm Tel Var. There will be no "rush back to your base through sewers" (btw, why rush throught the sewers at all? Just go to a district with a sewer entrance closest to your home base and take a quick jog through pretty much safe territory) even without queing into Cyro.

The only players who will get hurt by your suggestion are casuals who decided to give IC a shot and try to get some Tel Var. And they need all the help they can get.

Zer0_CooL

Keep the queue system

Sounds like you're just frustrated because you can't farm PvE pugs at the sewer entry anymore.

redgreensunset wrote: »

Just make it so you can't port while in battle. No reason to make the queuing aystem even more complicated than it already is.

Thats the curent situation actually. And if you get in fight after you queued for cyro, you better not accept because you still can get killed while in loadingscreen.

Pauls

Keep the queue system

redgreensunset wrote: »

Just make it so you can't port while in battle. No reason to make the queuing aystem even more complicated than it already is.

With current stuck in combat bug which isnt solved by nerfing heroism buff this idea sounds bad

Plodeoca

Remove the queue to Cyrodiil’s campaigns

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

Sounds like you're just frustrated because you can't farm PvE pugs at the sewer entry anymore.

redgreensunset wrote: »

Just make it so you can't port while in battle. No reason to make the queuing aystem even more complicated than it already is.

Thats the curent situation actually. And if you get in fight after you queued for cyro, you better not accept because you still can get killed while in loadingscreen.

Sir, please, i’ve got over 900k tel’vars on my bank and several Hakeijo on guild stores. Even if i’m a sort of huge farmer of tel’vars i find the fact of the queue immersion breaking.

Ackwalan

Ball groups sometimes do that in PvP also. Instead of getting whipped, they will group port to IC to escape. I guess those 'good fights' they are looking for are the fights they can easily win.

ForzaRammer

Keep the queue system

How about fix bigger issues first

Sanctum74

Even if they did change it, people could just close the application to keep their stones

SeaGtGruff

The queue was always available, even before Imperial City was given its own queue. So you wouldn't be asking for things to be put back to how they used to be-- and I assume there was a very good reason it was changed.

Beardimus

Remove the queue to Cyrodiil’s campaigns

Remove all the sneaky way people use to cheat. Yep.
This and alliance lock please thanks..

bmnoble

Keep the queue system

What Hakeijo price drop are you on about exactly? They seem more expensive than they were before on PC NA I rarely seem to find them on traders for under 16K a piece and usually higher than that.

regime211

Keep the queue system

Plodeoca wrote: »

Farming tel’vars is a lot easier today, you just make a big group, farm some tel’vars and when you have enough tel’vars you can just queue for Cyrodiil’s campaigns to get your tel’vars to a safe banker. This happens even in combat, are you fighting your opponents while carrying your tel’vars? No problem! Just queue to Cyrodiil to save your tel’vars!

Well this make the Imperial city stone retreat very useless and it removes the risk and reward of carrying huge amounts of tel’vars.

Other than that, since this mechanism is active there is a decrease of price of the Hakeijo rune because of course this makes easier to get without taking any risk.

This poll is to take back IC like it was before: “Once upon a day you had to run through sewers back to your base carrying your tel’vars with the risk of loosing them due to a ganker or a boss walking on your way”.

The “teleport” out of IC with tel’vars with a cyro queue is immersion breaker from my point of view. What’s yours?

How about we worry more about the performance and probably think about this later on down the road?

DivineFirstYOLO

Remove the queue to Cyrodiil’s campaigns

This even happens in Cyro.. zerglings see they about to lose the fight, they start queuing for other campaign and pop a resto ult to survive a few more seconds. I don't see the point in doing that since you don't lose anything in Cyro but still ppl doing it. [snip]

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Major_Lag

Keep the queue system

Since a NB can go into the sewers with 0 telvar and gank returning players for free telvar at absolutely no risk to their own, it is only fair that there exists a counter to that.

Rework telvar loss mechanic so that a player can't take more from a killed enemy player than what the winner was already carrying to begin with - and then you can do away with the queue, and even the recall stones.

bmnoble wrote: »

What Hakeijo price drop are you on about exactly? They seem more expensive than they were before on PC NA I rarely seem to find them on traders for under 16K a piece and usually higher than that.

This is kinda old news by this point, but Hakeijo used to be a lot cheaper back when IC was still part of Cyrodiil, and thus it had more available instances than it does now.
Ever since IC was made its own campaign, the Hakeijo prices went up by roughly 50% on PCEU.

idk

redgreensunset wrote: »

Just make it so you can't port while in battle. No reason to make the queuing aystem even more complicated than it already is.

It may be much easier to just close off queueing for Cyrodiil altogether. We know how much trouble Zos has with in-combat issues. I am not saying it is. Just that it might be.

SeaGtGruff

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

This even happens in Cyro.. zerglings see they about to lose the fight, they start queuing for other campaign and pop a resto ult to survive a few more seconds. I don't see the point in doing that since you don't lose anything in Cyro but still ppl doing it. [snip]

Only time I've ever queued for another campaign in Cyro-- or queued to hop from Cyro to IC and back to Cyro-- was after I had soloed resources and scouted destinations deep in enemy alliance territory, and I wanted a quick trip back to the job boards to turn in the jobs and grab more. I didn't even know you can queue DURING a fight. If I'm in a fight, I either just try to get away if I was racing back to home base anyway and got jumped on the way, or I fight as best I can until I get killed-- which usually doesn't take very long. I mean, getting killed in Cyro is just a free trip back to home base, so why not?

These days I mostly go to IC as needed to do master crafting writs, and then I queue out so I can go turn in the writs. I haven't farmed any Tel Var in a while-- probably not since the last IC event.

geonsocal

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bugger off...no greedy - you can't have my stones...

who cares about tri-glyph prices anyway...

trackdemon5512

Keep the queue system

The PVP player size of IC is so small now that it really isn’t worth the time. Why are you grinding tel-var so hard? Don’t you like that you can get all you want now?

xshatox

Ackwalan wrote: »

Ball groups sometimes do that in PvP also. Instead of getting whipped, they will group port to IC to escape. I guess those 'good fights' they are looking for are the fights they can easily win.

Ah yes, agree. Those player that looking for ‘good fight’. When they are faced with player who know to handle them, they port. Sometime I see rock *** do this too when they are in trouble when they are beinv chased by ‘zerg’.

Nanfoodle

Hakeijo cost way too much as it is. That's a different problem but anything that keeps the cost down is a must. As it stands you can't make money selling gold glyphs unless you farm them yourself.