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EU performance since patch is causing major issues

ZoM_Head
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Ever since the performance patch a few weeks ago, our PvE raiding guild has been experiencing too many issues during raids.

We are still getting disconnects, players getting kicked out to log in screen and major ping issues.

We are resetting instances in trails so many times, it is becoming a reset trail night instead of a raid night. When the majority of the players in the instance has decent ping (around 60-100 ping) one or both of our tanks experience skills not working. They can weapon swap, but their skills do not proc.

I have been also experiencing the same issues with some characters, no matter how many times i hit the skill (such as a heal or a shield) it does not proc, yet blocking and dodging works despite being with as low as 50 ping when fighting a world boss, for example.

It is clearly some issue with the EU server, and this has been going on for a while, just the performance patch, for some reason, has enhanced these issues.

Cyrodiil is a joke as always, character is just standing there refusing to cast any abilities, even when all alone against one other enemy player and 70 ping. Could not weapon swap, heal, shield etc and just gives away free AP to the enemy player.

Zenimax, are you aware of these issues? or am i the first one to openly bring this to you? (i seriously doubt it).
mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • colossalvoids
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno any fix planned soon? We literally can't do trials now due to this issues.
  • L2Pissue
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno any fix planned soon? We literally can't do trials now due to this issues.

    There will be a fix so strong you wont do quests anymore
  • Major_Lag
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    L2Pissue wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any fix planned soon? We literally can't do trials now due to this issues.

    There will be a fix so strong you wont do quests anymore
    You jest, but I'm quite sure that this is what will actually happen.
    At this point, anything is fair game.
  • fbours
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    There was a post from ZOS acknowledging the issues last week, and this past incremental patch it was mentioned something is in the works.

    Long story short, don't have high expectations. Performance patch made performance worse, the incremental patches supposed to fix things broke things more. Sit and relax.
  • ZoM_Head
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    fbours wrote: »
    There was a post from ZOS acknowledging the issues last week, and this past incremental patch it was mentioned something is in the works.

    Long story short, don't have high expectations. Performance patch made performance worse, the incremental patches supposed to fix things broke things more. Sit and relax.

    I have been "sitting and relaxing" since launch day in 2014. Lag in Cyrodiil is something we must accept, but we have never cancelled raids so frequently in PvE due to resetting instances more times than we could count. If i can not PvP, fine there is PvE content, but when PvE goes into an unacceptable state.....the line must be drawn.
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • HelixUnited
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    console is having the same issues but its always the same, reset this delete that etc, i play console and pc and right now i cant play either as constant disconnects and all i want is my piggie i dont care about anything else lol
  • Mayrael
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    If you really hope for fix... I wish I would be so optimistic :) ZOS don't know how to fix performance, they can't roll it back to because to much of new stuff added. So in general this is the main reason of constant degradation of ESO performance - no weekly performance patches. New content should be added in larger updates, but performance tweaks should be made on a weekly basis and with a fraction of the code. This way if they would mess up something, they could revert it without worrying about anything else.

    Performance won't get better, it's impossible with current approach.
    Say no to Toxic Casuals!
    I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.


    "Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge
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    Oh and there will be no more incremental patches dedicated to fixing what's have been broken in last update, because those people are working already on new content. People already got used to it.
    Say no to Toxic Casuals!
    I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.


    "Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge
  • Aznarb
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    Same, my groupe got the same proble..

    Skill not firing, skill bar who wont switch, crash, high ping, random fps drop, etc..
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  • ZoM_Head
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    The state of trails today is unplayable.

    Skills not firing, character getting "locked" and cannot weapon swap, cast abilities, dodge etc

    Resetting instances numerous times, no effect.

    Realistically speaking, trails and Cyrodiil are out of the question in terms of playing.
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • Stillian
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    I want to bump this topic. Recently we started to play ESO again with friends and all of us get performance issues
    Elitist Scum Guild PC EU
  • Cirantille
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    L2Pissue wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any fix planned soon? We literally can't do trials now due to this issues.

    There will be a fix so strong you wont do quests anymore

    Solid laugh for a min :joy:
  • Cirantille
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    For OP yes,

    Many times people say in voice chat that their block or break free not working. Or as you said skill bar being locked.

    I experience this myself. Which is very risky, because you need to quickly break free and shield up or heal sometimes.

    Then people die and it is reset. Very tiresome.

    I was a long time PvPer but I moved to vet pve but I had no idea that PvE content can be like this.
  • TheFM
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    Major_Lag wrote: »
    L2Pissue wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any fix planned soon? We literally can't do trials now due to this issues.

    There will be a fix so strong you wont do quests anymore
    You jest, but I'm quite sure that this is what will actually happen.
    At this point, anything is fair game.

    Its actually an inevitability. The more sets, trinkets, abilities, etc they put in the game, the more calculations that will need to be done, the more the game will lag and become unstable. We are about one chapter away from this happening, because you are already experiencing massive desyncs i our own houses and in overland.
  • Kirameku
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    Agreed. I'm also from Russia and most of Russians are expiriencing major lags and disconnects since probably monday? it's much worse than before.
  • Universe
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    PC EU server performance is so poor...

    I was thinking to play only on PC NA but starting all over again is not something that I would wish to my worst enemy.
    Not to mention that I would have to deal with additional 100+ms latency because of the distance...
    Edited by Universe on April 1, 2020 8:44PM
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    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
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  • Chaos2088
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    My reaction everytime it lags over the most small thing....
    Edited by Chaos2088 on April 1, 2020 8:39PM
    @Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP
  • Universe
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
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    My reaction everytime it lags over the most small thing....

    i-was-shocked.jpg

    I'm more like the above.
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • ZoM_Head
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    Even when doing daily quests in Murkmire, Northern and Southern Elsweyr my character just stands and refuses to cast abilities in delves and world bosses.

    I mean....this is indeed too much.
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • Aurrynthea_Drake
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    When will we learn that zos no longer cares about it's long term players? Share holders need to be paid. Crown store will always be a priority before playability. The truly sad thing is when things are working (as short as those moments are!) ESO is a brilliant game. Too bad it only works 6% of the time. 🤷🏻‍♀️
    Magic does not die. It merely sleeps until called forth into the world again.
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  • rexagamemnon
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    ive notched the same on xbox eu, with decreased performance. I live in the US and play on EU and never noticed the the ping issues before, but since the update, it is very bad
  • volkeswagon
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    I play on NA and didn't notice any performance improvement after the reinstall patch. Load times are the same and black shadows still exist for too long and npc loads are still slow
  • Aznarb
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    Was fine for me today, but some of my friend have trouble with ping.
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  • actosh
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    When will we learn that zos no longer cares about it's long term players? Share holders need to be paid. Crown store will always be a priority before playability. The truly sad thing is when things are working (as short as those moments are!) ESO is a brilliant game. Too bad it only works 6% of the time. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    100% agree. Right now I just look for another action combat mmo.
  • NeillMcAttack
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    actosh wrote: »
    When will we learn that zos no longer cares about it's long term players? Share holders need to be paid. Crown store will always be a priority before playability. The truly sad thing is when things are working (as short as those moments are!) ESO is a brilliant game. Too bad it only works 6% of the time. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    100% agree. Right now I just look for another action combat mmo.

    I think we are all looking for something else right now. Sadly eso seems to be the only game if it’s type to have the formula almost perfect. The execution though.... yikes.
    Zeni are really lucky in this regard. I can imagine a similar game, built on a better engine, is just around the corner, and it will certainly cause a mass exodus from here. But they are lucky in the sense that they still have time to right the ship...
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  • Saelent
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    actosh wrote: »
    When will we learn that zos no longer cares about it's long term players? Share holders need to be paid. Crown store will always be a priority before playability. The truly sad thing is when things are working (as short as those moments are!) ESO is a brilliant game. Too bad it only works 6% of the time. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    100% agree. Right now I just look for another action combat mmo.

    I think we are all looking for something else right now. Sadly eso seems to be the only game if it’s type to have the formula almost perfect. The execution though.... yikes.
    Zeni are really lucky in this regard. I can imagine a similar game, built on a better engine, is just around the corner, and it will certainly cause a mass exodus from here. But they are lucky in the sense that they still have time to right the ship...

    Everyone likes what’s new and shiny, so of course people will run to something else.
    However, being a prissy hero in Middle Earth is not my idea of fun.
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    Noticed it big time on Monday when PC EU crashed.

    Haven’t really noticed it much since then.. my main issue has been jamming and low frame rates in Southern Elsweyr (similar to the first few days after Dragonhold launched).
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    I even had lag while doing Jester quests yesterday xD
  • actosh
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    Saelent wrote: »
    actosh wrote: »
    When will we learn that zos no longer cares about it's long term players? Share holders need to be paid. Crown store will always be a priority before playability. The truly sad thing is when things are working (as short as those moments are!) ESO is a brilliant game. Too bad it only works 6% of the time. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    100% agree. Right now I just look for another action combat mmo.

    I think we are all looking for something else right now. Sadly eso seems to be the only game if it’s type to have the formula almost perfect. The execution though.... yikes.
    Zeni are really lucky in this regard. I can imagine a similar game, built on a better engine, is just around the corner, and it will certainly cause a mass exodus from here. But they are lucky in the sense that they still have time to right the ship...

    Everyone likes what’s new and shiny, so of course people will run to something else.
    However, being a prissy hero in Middle Earth is not my idea of fun.

    Yes eso got a huge ammount of stuff right, that is fun and engaging WHEN the Server is able to handle it.

    Right now my most desired features of a new game would be Action Combat & Performance.
    Will check out BP Beta when i get a key, but i rly want ZOS to fix that stupid server.

    We will see how many players leave when they push their la nerfs through.

    Havent bought Greymoor yet, the other addons i bought immediatly, and not sure if i will do.
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    Tbh I blame a lot of the lag on the Necromamcer character. Too many flashing lights and effects going off can't help. When that enormous monster ultimate pops up, I can't see a thing as it is so big. It does make it harder to tank.
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