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Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.
  • Aliyavana
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    Working as intended for the faction heroes who would gate camp a faction and kill pvp for insignificant campaign score
  • Artorias24
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    Working as intended for the faction heroes who would gate camp a faction and kill pvp for insignificant campaign score

    Yes, its very fun. So glad they did this change
  • barney2525
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    I'm sensing a bit of sarcasm in the thread title.....


    maybe that's just me


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  • Lady_Linux
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    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3
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  • BigBadVolk
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    at least there are no spies... or.... :neutral:
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  • naturebased
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    The map is never blue because DC is the beta alliance. You sir are a liar.
  • Rave the Histborn
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    I bolded why they added the faction lock for you. There's other campaigns with other factions you're more then welcome to play on!
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    Ask yourself why the other campaigns are dead..
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    Option 1.

    Continue logging onto the busy campaign, running around up to your neck in lag [Snip]

    Option 2.

    Be brave, bite the bullet and start to help populate the other campaigns.

    [Edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on March 25, 2020 9:19PM
  • Artorias24
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3

    i play on this campaign cause the other ones are all on low pop. Doesnt automaticly mean i prefer faction lock.
    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    I bolded why they added the faction lock for you. There's other campaigns with other factions you're more then welcome to play on!

    Whats the problem with switchting to another Alliance and bring back balance on the map so everyone can enjoy pvp and doesnt get gate camped? Do you enjoy gate camping?
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    Well deserved win for Covenant, good job.
  • AMeanOne
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    Ps4 na pvp population has been declining since faction lock introduction. I see less bars online throughout a day, and the bars log off earlier than before faction lock.
  • Rave the Histborn
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3

    i play on this campaign cause the other ones are all on low pop. Doesnt automaticly mean i prefer faction lock.
    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    I bolded why they added the faction lock for you. There's other campaigns with other factions you're more then welcome to play on!

    Whats the problem with switchting to another Alliance and bring back balance on the map so everyone can enjoy pvp and doesnt get gate camped? Do you enjoy gate camping?

    You know what makes the other factions populated though right? Usually other campaigns are filled and people decided to go play them instead, especially as they're unlocked.

    The problem with switching to another Alliance is switching to another alliance. There isn't supposed to be constant balance and you're not switching to go over and "set things right", you're doing it to AP leech off the wining faction. Do you actually play pvp or do you just go in for the transmutes at the end of the campaign because the amount of gate camping that actually goes on in Cyrodiil is so minimal it wouldn't be a reason to change the faction lock.
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3

    i play on this campaign cause the other ones are all on low pop. Doesnt automaticly mean i prefer faction lock.
    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    I bolded why they added the faction lock for you. There's other campaigns with other factions you're more then welcome to play on!

    Whats the problem with switchting to another Alliance and bring back balance on the map so everyone can enjoy pvp and doesnt get gate camped? Do you enjoy gate camping?

    You know what makes the other factions populated though right? Usually other campaigns are filled and people decided to go play them instead, especially as they're unlocked.

    The problem with switching to another Alliance is switching to another alliance. There isn't supposed to be constant balance and you're not switching to go over and "set things right", you're doing it to AP leech off the wining faction. Do you actually play pvp or do you just go in for the transmutes at the end of the campaign because the amount of gate camping that actually goes on in Cyrodiil is so minimal it wouldn't be a reason to change the faction lock.

    I actually couldnt care less about Transmute stones or AP. I care about having good fights and i normally seek fights were we are outnumbered. I run in groups from 2-3 and trying to fight those zergs. And this type of action is non existent when your own faction owns the whole map and every fight you go gets zerged down in 2 minutes from your allied zerg.

    I dont farm AP as you assume and just declare me as a liar. I dont care campaign or faction. I just want to PVP and not camp enemy gates. Its not fun for everyone. Maybe some ppl enjoy getting camped at their gates and maybe some enjoy to own the whole map but for most players its boring to have one really dominant faction.

    [Snip]

    [Edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on March 25, 2020 9:37PM
  • Ackwalan
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3

    i play on this campaign cause the other ones are all on low pop. Doesnt automaticly mean i prefer faction lock.
    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    I bolded why they added the faction lock for you. There's other campaigns with other factions you're more then welcome to play on!

    Whats the problem with switchting to another Alliance and bring back balance on the map so everyone can enjoy pvp and doesnt get gate camped? Do you enjoy gate camping?

    Winning a campaign is old, everyone has done it multiple times. Fighting your way back from nothing is much more satisfying.

    And like lots of others have said. If all the "I'm just looking for good fights" hero's were to play on the unlocked campaign, it would not be dead and would attract more and more.
    Edited by Ackwalan on March 25, 2020 5:31PM
  • Universe
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    Faction lock is awesome :)
    The day ZOS implemented it again I was really happy!
    Less spies, more faction loyalty...
    Edited by Universe on March 25, 2020 5:39PM
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  • Att1Tude
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    If you're looking for good fights, maybe you should join into DC side.
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  • Universe
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    Att1Tude wrote: »
    If you're looking for good fights, maybe you should join into DC side.

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  • amir412
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3

    Here we go again with this argument,
    He is there because if he wanted to play horse simulator, he can find way better games to do it rather playing these dead campaigns.
    Edited by amir412 on March 25, 2020 5:47PM
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    I never understood players like OP let me walk you through my train of thought.

    1) YOU can play a different campaign and stick with it. If all the people that hate the lock joined an unlocked campaign you would have nothing to complain about.

    2) YOUR team is gate camping it’s your own people. Holding the enemy back to get as many points as possible. DC doesn’t get to do this often and why would you want to cut your own team’s score down??

    3) Why are you still on a campaign where you can’t faction jump even if it’s slow on other campaigns if you stick it out someone else joining cause they hate the lock will stay longer cause there’s some action on the board. You have the power to fix this.
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    Cydoriil was never intended to be a balanced PvP gameplay. By design, it will always have periods of where one faction has a strong advantage. While faction lock does not help the game, this imbalance will happen with or without faction lock
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    That suggests there aren't many actual PvP guilds left in the game. In most RvR games the fight guilds organise themselves so they are split over factions/worlds/servers so they can fight each other. If a server/faction gets bandwagoned so queues become an issue, the fight guilds move, and that includes games where you have to pay to transfer.

    That the "PvP" guilds left in ESO can't manage (or have no real interest) in doing something similar by moving campaigns to get better fights, less lag, etc tells you just how PvE the remaining "PvP" playerbase is and how moribund PvP is in this game.
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
    Artorias24 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3

    i play on this campaign cause the other ones are all on low pop. Doesnt automaticly mean i prefer faction lock.
    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    I bolded why they added the faction lock for you. There's other campaigns with other factions you're more then welcome to play on!

    Whats the problem with switchting to another Alliance and bring back balance on the map so everyone can enjoy pvp and doesnt get gate camped? Do you enjoy gate camping?

    You know what makes the other factions populated though right? Usually other campaigns are filled and people decided to go play them instead, especially as they're unlocked.

    The problem with switching to another Alliance is switching to another alliance. There isn't supposed to be constant balance and you're not switching to go over and "set things right", you're doing it to AP leech off the wining faction. Do you actually play pvp or do you just go in for the transmutes at the end of the campaign because the amount of gate camping that actually goes on in Cyrodiil is so minimal it wouldn't be a reason to change the faction lock.

    I actually couldnt care less about Transmute stones or AP. I care about having good fights and i normally seek fights were we are outnumbered. I run in groups from 2-3 and trying to fight those zergs. And this type of action is non existent when your own faction owns the whole map and every fight you go gets zerged down in 2 minutes from your allied zerg.

    I dont farm AP as you assume and just declare me as a liar. I dont care campaign or faction. I just want to PVP and not camp enemy gates. Its not fun for everyone. Maybe some ppl enjoy getting camped at their gates and maybe some enjoy to own the whole map but for most players its boring to have one really dominant faction.

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    [Edited for baiting]

    Well if you understood PVP and cared about good fights you'd understand you can't have good fights all the time and if you're gate camping one faction then you're not focusing the other faction that is usually hammering yours. The type of action exists if you spend a second looking for it but the need for faction jumping seems to be more tunnel vision against a faction. You can't tell me that you need unlocked factions to find larger fights because there's always fights going on.

    If you don't care about campaign or faction they have IC and battlegrounds that you can join or you and your 70 friends that don't like faction lock can join an unlocked campaign. That would be a huge population boost to some of the lesser populated campaigns and it'd encourage more people to join them.

    Anyway. It's hard to convince an anti-faction lock SIMP from worshiping Grayhost and not trying to do something beyond complaining. There are players (a lot actually) who do enjoy it. I have a FL with 140 ppl who player PvP and all of them enjoy it (I can also make up fake internet stats).
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on March 25, 2020 9:39PM
  • thissocalledflower
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    amir412 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Given that there is faction lock and non faction lock options to play and mostly everyone chooses to play faction lock - including you apparently - then yes it stands to reason that faction lock is truly great and there should be more of it and not less.

    But what i sense here is that you are trying to somehow blame ZOS for the fact that mostly everyone (and you included) prefer to play faction lock when non faction lock options are available. ZOS is NOT responsible for your free will choice to play faction lock.

    Have a wonderful day! <3

    Here we go again with this argument,
    He is there because if he wanted to play horse simulator, he can find way better games to do it rather playing these dead campaigns.

    BUT BUT BUT the dead campaigns have no faction lock - and NO ONE wants to play them.. except me, because i just want to go get the skyshards and leave as quietly as possible...
    After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.
  • Casul
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    Please give no CP faction lock back. Sick of people jumping ship to farm the map for AP.
    PvP needs more love.
  • ForzaRammer
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    Op, there is a 'standard campaign' for you
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    Artorias24 wrote: »
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    Map is all blue. Other campaigns are dead. Cant switch and help the underdog. Really noice.

    Ask yourself why the other campaigns are dead..

    Because the game's performance is so terrible that even though I'm stuck inside my house and now have to work from home - a gamer's wet dream - I still have no desire to go PvP and wait 5 seconds for my skill to go off.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • scottii
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    Att1Tude wrote: »
    If you're looking for good fights, maybe you should join into DC side.

    your contribution to the zerg is most appreciated zergling.
    Praying the Daedric Gods will make Cyrodiil great again.
  • Wihuri
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    BuildMan wrote: »
    Please give no CP faction lock back. Sick of people jumping ship to farm the map for AP.

    No. There is no alternative campaign to play noCP in if you want to play your alts on other factions. Stop asking for this.
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