Buying computer for ESO advice

Eddie_Robertson

Hello all-

I've been playing ESO to death on Xbox One X and can't put it down. So I have decided to take the plunge and get a small gaming PC so I can give it a whirl from that perspective. These stats listed, are they enough to play on Ultra? On Xbox One X the game is gorgeous, I will probably lose all interest in it on the PC side if it doesn't look as good.

Thoughts on this configuration?

Windows 10 Home operating system
2.9GHz Intel Core i5-9400F six-core processor with 9MB cache; up to 4.1GHz
16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM
256GB PCIe NVME solid-state drive
1TB 7200RPM drive
802.11ac Wi-Fi technology
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660
5.1-channel HD Audio with Nahimic audio enhancer
USB-C port
Three USB 3.1 ports
Four USB 2.0 ports
DL, ethernet, HDMI, Display Port ports


Thanks much

thissocalledflower

a 16660 is plenty enough as is that processor for 1080p
the ram is a bit slow in my opinion i would ask for 3000 minimum
also i would opt for a larger nvme.. at least 500gb

i would recomend connecting the pc via ethernet if possible ac is not the newest ax i think is the newest wifi and much faster if you are going to use wifi use the fastest available... ax routers are like 120 low end

Malkiv

thissocalledflower wrote: »

a 16660 is plenty enough as is that processor for 1080p
the ram is a bit slow in my opinion i would ask for 3000 minimum
also i would opt for a larger nvme.. at least 500gb

i would recomend connecting the pc via ethernet if possible ac is not the newest ax i think is the newest wifi and much faster if you are going to use wifi use the fastest available... ax routers are like 120 low end

The memory speed is fine at 2666, as that's a base clock for DDR4 dimms and the whitesheet spec for your CPU. There's most likely no XMP profile on the memory, so the memory doesn't have an overclocking profile built into it. That's okay, because the processor is not overclockable anyways, and it'll be a stable configuration. If there is an XMP profile - Great! Enable it, and get increased memory speed!

With a 256Gb NVME, you'll want to save most of your user files on your larger 1TB hdd. With Windows and ESO on your NVME, you'll already have taken half of the capacity. So, it's just good practice to install other things on your high-capacity drive.

As far as wifi goes, being on an unused channel for less congestion and disabling MU-MIMO are far better options than spending an extra 400 for an AX router unless you're needing the throughput for other solutions in your home or business. ESO does not require a lot of bandwidth, and AC is more than enough for Discord high quality packets and ESO. It's all about congestion and switching when it comes to wifi optimization.

In summation, that's not a bad PC for gaming!Very respectable entry-level for a prebuilt, as long as you're not paying more than 900 for it without water cooling, and no more than 1000 with water cooling.

BackStabeth

Until ZoS fixes major issues with ESO, I wouldn't suggest buying anything specifically for ESO including a computer specifically for the game.

If ESO ever gets their act together and fixes the issues then maybe, but if they don't you will probably want to spec out a computer for something else where that company cares about their customers are fixes issues rather than tells you they will and never do.

Eddie_Robertson

Do all of these issues exist on Xbox as well or only on PC? I don't really have any issues on Xbox but I'm probably to casual to notice them anyways.

Thanks

TheFM

You can buy a super computer for this game and it wouldnt matter. Its the coding that is the problem. And the server hardware.

MEBengalsFan2001

Get the new AMD Ryzen CPU you get more bang for your buck. AMD current latest CPUs are better than Intel for desktop. The laptop ones have been announced and were going to be released this year but I expect them to be delayed for a while.

thissocalledflower

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

Get the new AMD Ryzen CPU you get more bang for your buck. AMD current latest CPUs are better than Intel for desktop. The laptop ones have been announced and were going to be released this year but I expect them to be delayed for a while.

I do agree with you on that. But it wasnt the question he asked. But yah, if i were going to buy a new gaming system, i'd build want from parts likely and buy new ryzen processor and gpu and get the 3000 speed memory and a 35 dollar ax200 intel wifi card and an msi ? 120$ ax capable wifi router and a 1tb nvme and a 1000 watt bronze power supply. I'd also ensure i had a motherboard with more than one nvme drive slot..

I mean there are a lot of things i would do differntly than the build he posted

BUT the question he asked was would this work and well mostly it would but there are a few recommends i would think he might chosse differently with what he was looking at for a best case experience.

And as another poster pointed out, there are soime of the things even i recommended may not be so absolutley necessary...

It's all about the cost really...

thissocalledflower

Malkiv wrote: »

thissocalledflower wrote: »

a 16660 is plenty enough as is that processor for 1080p
the ram is a bit slow in my opinion i would ask for 3000 minimum
also i would opt for a larger nvme.. at least 500gb

i would recomend connecting the pc via ethernet if possible ac is not the newest ax i think is the newest wifi and much faster if you are going to use wifi use the fastest available... ax routers are like 120 low end

The memory speed is fine at 2666, as that's a base clock for DDR4 dimms and the whitesheet spec for your CPU. There's most likely no XMP profile on the memory, so the memory doesn't have an overclocking profile built into it. That's okay, because the processor is not overclockable anyways, and it'll be a stable configuration. If there is an XMP profile - Great! Enable it, and get increased memory speed!

With a 256Gb NVME, you'll want to save most of your user files on your larger 1TB hdd. With Windows and ESO on your NVME, you'll already have taken half of the capacity. So, it's just good practice to install other things on your high-capacity drive.

As far as wifi goes, being on an unused channel for less congestion and disabling MU-MIMO are far better options than spending an extra 400 for an AX router unless you're needing the throughput for other solutions in your home or business. ESO does not require a lot of bandwidth, and AC is more than enough for Discord high quality packets and ESO. It's all about congestion and switching when it comes to wifi optimization.

In summation, that's not a bad PC for gaming!Very respectable entry-level for a prebuilt, as long as you're not paying more than 900 for it without water cooling, and no more than 1000 with water cooling.

ax wifi routers start at 120$ on amazon. i upgraded my linux machine with a low end ax200 wifi 6 and bluetooth 5 card (27$ us) and was considering a router to go with it but yah, nice routers are 400$ but i never buy at the top of the power curve as it is always a waste of money and i'm poor. THey can be had for laess than a third of your quoted price.


i mean here's a wifi 6 (ax) router for 80$ that will very well do the job

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wifi-AX1500-Smart-Router/dp/B07ZSDR49S/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_pm?ac_md=1-0-VW5kZXIgJDEwMA==-ac_d_pm&cv_ct_cx=ax+router&keywords=ax+router&pd_rd_i=B07ZSDR49S&pd_rd_r=a41da9c8-8836-466a-bf16-db5db995403f&pd_rd_w=G2Fqt&pd_rd_wg=koZHt&pf_rd_p=0e223c60-bcf8-4663-98f3-da892fbd4372&pf_rd_r=G4R4GKZYZW676D04T1N9&psc=1&qid=1584976638&sr=1-1-22d05c05-1231-4126-b7c4-3e7a9c0027d0

Narvuntien

This game is really old and it can run on a lot of old hardware.

Its very CPU base and not as much of a GPU game

thissocalledflower

final answer: a larger nvme drive. 1 tb if you can, 500 gb if you cant. once you see the performance boost of nvme you'll want a bigger one to run more stuff there from. games and such for sure.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

I run a similar system but use an AMD Ryzen 7 CPU with GTX 1660ti and the game runs as well as it can with all of its programming problems. My only suggestion is to go to at least a 500G SSD and if you plan to use the system for things like photo/video processing a 2T HDD. I run my applications from the SSD and use the HDD for data that takes up a lot of space such as photos or music. I also have a 2T portable USB drive I use for backing up my SSD and critical data on the HDD.

Nanfoodle

That rig will eat up anything the market makes right now at 1080p with a good fps. Just make sure the game is installed on the PCIe not the HD. Myself, I would switch the sata HD for a SSD or a larger PCIe drive.

Malkiv

thissocalledflower wrote: »

ax wifi routers start at 120$ on amazon. i upgraded my linux machine with a low end ax200 wifi 6 and bluetooth 5 card (27$ us) and was considering a router to go with it but yah, nice routers are 400$ but i never buy at the top of the power curve as it is always a waste of money and i'm poor. THey can be had for laess than a third of your quoted price.


i mean here's a wifi 6 (ax) router for 80$ that will very well do the job

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wifi-AX1500-Smart-Router/dp/B07ZSDR49S/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_pm?ac_md=1-0-VW5kZXIgJDEwMA==-ac_d_pm&cv_ct_cx=ax+router&keywords=ax+router&pd_rd_i=B07ZSDR49S&pd_rd_r=a41da9c8-8836-466a-bf16-db5db995403f&pd_rd_w=G2Fqt&pd_rd_wg=koZHt&pf_rd_p=0e223c60-bcf8-4663-98f3-da892fbd4372&pf_rd_r=G4R4GKZYZW676D04T1N9&psc=1&qid=1584976638&sr=1-1-22d05c05-1231-4126-b7c4-3e7a9c0027d0

"Connect more devices than ever before Wi-Fi 6 technology simultaneously communicates more data to more devices using OFDMA and MU-MIMO while reducing lag dramatically"

Haha, that's how you know this router is garbo. Anything that uses MU-MIMO for marketing, suggesting that it allows for better performance or reduced lag is very misleading. There's only a handful of scenarios where MU-MIMO works as implemented, and none of them are in the consumer space.

Ydrisselle

thissocalledflower wrote: »

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

Get the new AMD Ryzen CPU you get more bang for your buck. AMD current latest CPUs are better than Intel for desktop. The laptop ones have been announced and were going to be released this year but I expect them to be delayed for a while.

I do agree with you on that. But it wasnt the question he asked. But yah, if i were going to buy a new gaming system, i'd build want from parts likely and buy new ryzen processor and gpu and get the 3000 speed memory and a 35 dollar ax200 intel wifi card and an msi ? 120$ ax capable wifi router and a 1tb nvme and a 1000 watt bronze power supply. I'd also ensure i had a motherboard with more than one nvme drive slot..

I mean there are a lot of things i would do differntly than the build he posted

BUT the question he asked was would this work and well mostly it would but there are a few recommends i would think he might chosse differently with what he was looking at for a best case experience.

And as another poster pointed out, there are soime of the things even i recommended may not be so absolutley necessary...

It's all about the cost really...

You don't want to buy a 1000 W bronze power supply, you want to buy a 650 W gold one. I just got a new rig - MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX, Ryzen 5 3600, Gigabyte Radeon 5700, 2*16 GB Crucial RAM, 500 GB Samsung 970 NVMe SSD + 3 TB WD Purple HDD, Creative Sound Blaster Z -, and it runs fine with a 650 W Bitfenix WhisperM power supply.

molecule

Don't spend money to solely play this game.

Game runs like hot garbage on any PC.

Me ;
3900X
5700XT
NVME
75Mbps connection

Sahidom

https://www.gigabyte.com/Laptop/AERO-15-OLED--Intel-9th-Gen#kf

You can play this game on Ultra high settings and still have 80-100 FPS (if not, actually higher). It doesn't reduce the server-side performance issues in Cyrodiil. From personal experience, you won't often be hit with unfunctional frame rate drop too often in very, very high pixel heavy congested area. Plus, even when someone pulls a dirty macro trick, you have a chance to survive it with raw computing power.

Edited: I suggest the one with 64 GB RAM.