Just another "complain about outfit slot prices" post. Sorry not sorry

nhisso

But for real. The reason im doing this is to let ZoS know that yet another person willing to spend money on this game will no longer be doing so because of your ridiculously priced outfit slots. You dont even have the decency to make them account wide either? LOL! The irony of your ridiculous pricing is that Id pay 5 bucks a slot if they WERENT account wide, and easily spend 15 bucks per character, of which i have 11 right now. But 15 bucks (approx) for ONE slot that isnt account wide? Not a chance. Crown store, for most items, is completely out of hand. Not sure Ill spend any more money on this game just out of protest. That includes premium. And that means i wont play at all because Im not going to buy all the DLC piece meal.
Im sure you dont care. But i thought id just put it out there. Im a bit of a whale in games. I dont have a problem with reasonably priced microtransactions for cosmetic stuff and mounts in MMOs. You wont be getting any more of my money. And as i said, that possible includes re subbing. Thanks.

Gnortranermara

I got 1 for my main, but I'll never buy another until they're account wide.

nhisso

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I got 1 for my main, but I'll never buy another until they're account wide.

Yep. And im sure af not going to spend 3k gold every time i want to have a new weapon "skin" from a motif i like. No thanks. Even if i was ingame gold rich i wouldnt want to do that.

redspecter23

I think this is one of the big slip ups by the ESO store department. If these were account wide, they would be a lot more appealing and I feel they would sell more crowns as a result. With the current implementation they are targeting two audiences. Extreme outfit fanatics (2%) and the unfortunate players who buy these thinking they are account wide but they aren't (98%).

Of course I don't know these numbers for certain, but what I do know is that they are perfectly happy with players buying these not knowing they are per character instead of account wide. At the price they are charging, very few people would buy more than a small handful of these slots.

nhisso

redspecter23 wrote: »

I think this is one of the big slip ups by the ESO store department. If these were account wide, they would be a lot more appealing and I feel they would sell more crowns as a result. With the current implementation they are targeting two audiences. Extreme outfit fanatics (2%) and the unfortunate players who buy these thinking they are account wide but they aren't (98%).

Of course I don't know these numbers for certain, but what I do know is that they are perfectly happy with players buying these not knowing they are per character instead of account wide. At the price they are charging, very few people would buy more than a small handful of these slots.

Nah. those numbers seem spot on lol.

mikejezz

redspecter23 wrote: »

I think this is one of the big slip ups by the ESO store department. If these were account wide, they would be a lot more appealing and I feel they would sell more crowns as a result. With the current implementation they are targeting two audiences. Extreme outfit fanatics (2%) and the unfortunate players who buy these thinking they are account wide but they aren't (98%).

Of course I don't know these numbers for certain, but what I do know is that they are perfectly happy with players buying these not knowing they are per character instead of account wide. At the price they are charging, very few people would buy more than a small handful of these slots.

I'm an extreme outfit fanatic, and even I won't buy it.

LuxLunae

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I got 1 for my main, but I'll never buy another until they're account wide.

When it first came out I got one for my main... found out it wasn't account wide ...didn't get another... However I do think those are sinks for people who subscribe monthly to ESO. Like people complaining about 120$ house...No, you don't buy crowns to get that.. you subscribe over time and you build the crowns up and if you feel like getting the house..you can use the crowns you get from the sub on that... NEVER buy RAW CROWNS...its cheaper to sub..

zvavi

LuxLunae wrote: »

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I got 1 for my main, but I'll never buy another until they're account wide.

When it first came out I got one for my main... found out it wasn't account wide ...didn't get another... However I do think those are sinks for people who subscribe monthly to ESO. Like people complaining about 120$ house...No, you don't buy crowns to get that.. you subscribe over time and you build the crowns up and if you feel like getting the house..you can use the crowns you get from the sub on that... NEVER buy RAW CROWNS...its cheaper to sub..

If they were account wide i would probably buy one at some point, and i usually don't give a *** about how my characters look like.

Edit: i even know at what points i would have done it. Because at least twice during my game time, i was considering outfits.

Edit 2: @op, you can do whatever i did when something about the game pissed me enough to stop paying (performance) go f2p and spend gold to buy dlc

daim

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I got 1 for my main, but I'll never buy another until they're account wide.

They would certainly appeal to me more if account wide. With the current price I'm not even considering as they are just wayyyy overpriced.

redspecter23

daim wrote: »

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I got 1 for my main, but I'll never buy another until they're account wide.

They would certainly appeal to me more if account wide. With the current price I'm not even considering as they are just wayyyy overpriced.

It should be considered that it may be a marketing strategy to purposely overprice certain items so that other items (that are relatively cheap by comparison) look like better deals.

It may be that they don't even care if outfit slots sell in great numbers. It could just be a high price anchor point to give more implied value to other items.

RefLiberty

I like when some really greedy moves are commented publicly by players.
Not that it will do any difference but still.

Darkenarlol

meh the only thing that bothers me is

that we have only 10 slots per character

and i can't buy more. i'm not joking btw

FierceSam

I’m all for a Crown store selling cosmetics, but the price of this is just stupid

I like the whole outfit system, but I am never going to spend that kind of money on an outfit slot.

I’m not going to spend it on an outfit slot which extends to all my characters, I’m absolutely never going to pay it for just one character.

F-ing stupid price. You might as well just not bother to implement it.

Nerouyn

It's stupid.

ESO's great character visuals - including armors and weapons - is one of the best things about the game. It has the potential to be a really big selling point.

But the cost of actually using it is crazy.

Even if I farm gold and gamble on buying crowns of random strangers - which FYI ZO don't guarantee, and won't refund you if you're scammed - that's still a HUGE time, effort and boredom sink. Really. I've probably spent more time doing damned writs than I have actually playing the game.

Maybe one day I'll make that gamble. But only for one character and I don't know which one.

Right now I love wardens thematically but loathe them mechanically. So badly designed.

Really like necromancers - would be better with a perma pet - but I'm not really into necromancy. Struggling to squeeze my brain into that shape.

And then there's factors like race - courtesy of racial passives and housing options both being very unequal.

AcadianPaladin

I can only speak for myself. Because they are not account wide, I won't buy one. If they were account wide, I'd happily buy one. Maybe two.

At least for me, the existing marketing model is a fail.

nhisso

I would absolutely spend 15 bucks on each of my chars, maybe even more, at 5 bucks a pop. LMAO ZoS is literally LOSING money because of this ridiculous price and not having the slot be account wide.

Ohtimbar

It’s foolish and counterproductive. Outfit slots are a gateway to purchasing motifs, costumes, cosmetics etc. Overcharging for them is nothing but an obstacle to such purchases. However, I could be wrong. I have only my own data and that of my friends to draw from.

EternalDiva

Everything about ESO is expensive. I love this game but...its getting to tight for my pocket book on the PS4. you gotta subscribe to subscribe and then pay for every little extra thing.

nhisso

EternalDiva wrote: »

Everything about ESO is expensive. I love this game but...its getting to tight for my pocket book on the PS4. you gotta subscribe to subscribe and then pay for every little extra thing.

I mean, even though Bethesda and ZoS arent literally the same company; they are. And this is a company that released 24 versions of skyrim. Greed is sort of the M.O.

Nerouyn

nhisso wrote: »

I mean, even though Bethesda and ZoS arent literally the same company; they are. And this is a company that released 24 versions of skyrim. Greed is sort of the M.O.

They've certainly gone dark side in the monetization department.

I could understand them wanting to transition players away from Steam, which take a very big cut of sales. But "creation club" is ***.

The company indirectly makes a BLEEPING fortune from free mods, because those mods enhance gameplay and make it much better value for money. Lots more people buy TES games because they know mods are an option. Even if you like to play mostly vanilla, like me, knowing that you can just find or make a mod to change some annoying thing you don't like is a huge plus.

But I'm not moving to Skyrim SE. Even with the Morrowind mod requiring it.

nhisso

Nerouyn wrote: »

nhisso wrote: »

I mean, even though Bethesda and ZoS arent literally the same company; they are. And this is a company that released 24 versions of skyrim. Greed is sort of the M.O.

They've certainly gone dark side in the monetization department.

I could understand them wanting to transition players away from Steam, which take a very big cut of sales. But "creation club" is ***.

The company indirectly makes a BLEEPING fortune from free mods, because those mods enhance gameplay and make it much better value for money. Lots more people buy TES games because they know mods are an option. Even if you like to play mostly vanilla, like me, knowing that you can just find or make a mod to change some annoying thing you don't like is a huge plus.

But I'm not moving to Skyrim SE. Even with the Morrowind mod requiring it.

Yeah i sure af wont either lol. I play Enderal FS so that requires original or GOTY. And it is leaps and bounds better than Skyrim: baby's first "RPG" (rpg used loosely).

But on topic, I just cant believe a greedy company cant see how much money theyre losing with ridiculous prices on outfit slots. Like I said, Id spend exponentially more if they'd make them account wide or 5 or so bucks a piece if not account wide. But that's fine. More money i get to keep.

Hapexamendios

It's something I'll never buy. If I get tired of the outfit, I just change it.

daemonios

Lol. You're haggling about the price, but you've already accepted the premise of paying real money, not even for cosmetics themselves, but for a coat hanger to hold your virtual clothes. Guess what? They've done the math. Their chosen price point is intended to maximize revenue. They don't care if you find it a tad expensive.

Rinthetharmo

its incredibly rude and greedy that they are account wide, its a slap in the face milking u for money and i refuse to support or bother with outfits other than premade costumes because of this. Quality and integrity pls, ive never seen a companys game more greedy than in ESO.

Rinthetharmo

*arent account wide. Cant even seem to edit my post to correct it.

Zulera301

the outfit system is the epitome of "good intentions, bad results".

I greatly dislike it pretty much entirely. the outfit slots are exorbitantly overpriced (even if they were account-wide), the gold costs, while pocket change to me, are exorbitantly high for new players, even for common styles like the companion pages that we got plagued with last anniversary.

and ON THAT NOTE... why in Oblivion are those stupid things not stackable? motif pages stack. style pages are just dumb and a nuisance. I like being able to craft the things I learn. It'd probably cost less gold overall to just craft a special battleaxe than to pay for one in an outfit slot, anyways.

shoulda gone with a transmog system.

Rinthetharmo

LuxLunae wrote: »

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I got 1 for my main, but I'll never buy another until they're account wide.

When it first came out I got one for my main... found out it wasn't account wide ...didn't get another... However I do think those are sinks for people who subscribe monthly to ESO. Like people complaining about 120$ house...No, you don't buy crowns to get that.. you subscribe over time and you build the crowns up and if you feel like getting the house..you can use the crowns you get from the sub on that... NEVER buy RAW CROWNS...its cheaper to sub..

That can never apply for the housing enthusiasts, we would have to wait decades to get all the houses we want to decorate and have a ton of downtime while waiting for sub crowns b4 we could start on the other. Housing in general is way overpriced as well and its holding me back.

I will NEVER buy an outfit slot, because its not account wide. I dont appreciate greedy moves like that and i never support it on principle. Too much of such greedy moves and i move on.

darthgummibear_ESO

The cost for one slot for one character is absurd. I bought one about a year ago thinking it was account wide and didn't discover until a few weeks later that it wasn't when I went to add an outfit on one of my alts.

It either needs to be 1) Account wide or 2) like 1/3 the cost it is now.

Langeston

Nerouyn wrote: »

nhisso wrote: »

I mean, even though Bethesda and ZoS arent literally the same company; they are. And this is a company that released 24 versions of skyrim. Greed is sort of the M.O.

They've certainly gone dark side in the monetization department.

I could understand them wanting to transition players away from Steam, which take a very big cut of sales. But "creation club" is ***.

The company indirectly makes a BLEEPING fortune from free mods, because those mods enhance gameplay and make it much better value for money. Lots more people buy TES games because they know mods are an option. Even if you like to play mostly vanilla, like me, knowing that you can just find or make a mod to change some annoying thing you don't like is a huge plus.

But I'm not moving to Skyrim SE. Even with the Morrowind mod requiring it.

What "Morrowind Mod" are you referring to?

Michae

Langeston wrote: »

Nerouyn wrote: »

nhisso wrote: »

I mean, even though Bethesda and ZoS arent literally the same company; they are. And this is a company that released 24 versions of skyrim. Greed is sort of the M.O.

They've certainly gone dark side in the monetization department.

I could understand them wanting to transition players away from Steam, which take a very big cut of sales. But "creation club" is ***.

The company indirectly makes a BLEEPING fortune from free mods, because those mods enhance gameplay and make it much better value for money. Lots more people buy TES games because they know mods are an option. Even if you like to play mostly vanilla, like me, knowing that you can just find or make a mod to change some annoying thing you don't like is a huge plus.

But I'm not moving to Skyrim SE. Even with the Morrowind mod requiring it.

What "Morrowind Mod" are you referring to?

Probably Skywind. Look it up, it looks amazing.

ku5h

Well, when a name change token cost almost the same as 2 DLCs, you know something is wrong.