Vampire's unarmed combat and animation

XomRhoK

ZOS, please, find the way for players to use claw animation for unarmed combat, as do Bloodfiend NPCs in game.
Like example, make two rings with your new Antiquities system, that disable all weapons and weapon skills, but leave all weapon bonuses and the opportunity to swap bars, so it will looks like unarmed combat. First ring will be "Pugilist ring" with normal stance and regular unarmed animations, second ring will be "Beast ring" with stance and unarmed animation of Bloodfiend NPC. Players still will need weapons, so it will not destroy sets, traits and farm, and this simple move will allow you to bring some kind of unarmed combat in game and will add so much to at least my personal vampire gameplay.
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Thevampirenight

We will get an unarmed melee attack with the Vampire Lord/Blood Scion Ultimate they are doing that will replace the Bat swarm ultimate. When the Greymoor Chapter is released. Not sure if Eviscerating slash will be such an attack that does what the blood fiends do or more like the dk slash ability or a Blood Scion/Vampire Lord exclusive ability. However there is a chance it would act like an melee claw slash ability so we will have to wait and see. So there is a good possibility you will get your wish in one form or another with the Greymoor Chapter.

MashmalloMan

@Thevampirenight I think the ultimate will behave more like Necro's Goliath ultimate that buffs you for 20 seconds rather than Werewolves ultimate.

Reasoning: Feeding and Vampire abilities are not tied to using a specific form. They also mentioned they are keeping the current 2 abilities which can be used without transformation (probably reworking them a little). Since the ultimate is being replaced, I can see them making Mist Form adapt some of the functionality. 1 Morph already does aoe damage which could easily be replaced with Bats like the current ultimate.

Result: You will still use your own weapons as a Blood Scion/Vamp Lord.

Vevvev

MashmalloMan wrote: »

@Thevampirenight I think the ultimate will behave more like Necro's Goliath ultimate that buffs you for 20 seconds rather than Werewolves ultimate.

Reasoning: Feeding and Vampire abilities are not tied to using a specific form. They also mentioned they are keeping the current 2 abilities which can be used without transformation (probably reworking them a little). Since the ultimate is being replaced, I can see them making Mist Form adapt some of the functionality. 1 Morph already does aoe damage which could easily be replaced with Bats like the current ultimate.

Result: You will still use your own weapons as a Blood Scion/Vamp Lord.

That's an interesting theory but one of the most iconic weapons of the vampire lord in Skyrim was the claw strike. They might have it function like Volendrung where it acts like a separate weapon entirely but then functions like the Sorcs overload ult that consumes ultimate for each ability and light/heavy attack done.

To be honest we have no idea, but I hope its something useful and neither too powerful or too weak. ((Poor werewolves))

Noxavian

MashmalloMan wrote: »

@Thevampirenight I think the ultimate will behave more like Necro's Goliath ultimate that buffs you for 20 seconds rather than Werewolves ultimate.

Reasoning: Feeding and Vampire abilities are not tied to using a specific form. They also mentioned they are keeping the current 2 abilities which can be used without transformation (probably reworking them a little). Since the ultimate is being replaced, I can see them making Mist Form adapt some of the functionality. 1 Morph already does aoe damage which could easily be replaced with Bats like the current ultimate.

Result: You will still use your own weapons as a Blood Scion/Vamp Lord.

A vamp lord using a sword or shield would look wack as all get out. I would bet money it won't be anything like the necro ult tbh.

Also being able to use class abilities as a vamp lord would look wack too. Imagine a vamp lord using fire or holy magic. That would look so weird.

XomRhoK

Thevampirenight wrote: »

We will get an unarmed melee attack with the Vampire Lord/Blood Scion Ultimate they are doing that will replace the Bat swarm ultimate. When the Greymoor Chapter is released. Not sure if Eviscerating slash will be such an attack that does what the blood fiends do or more like the dk slash ability or a Blood Scion/Vampire Lord exclusive ability. However there is a chance it would act like an melee claw slash ability so we will have to wait and see. So there is a good possibility you will get your wish in one form or another with the Greymoor Chapter.

I am not really fan of that transformation ult, i prefer regular vampire gameplay/feel. But i understand that many people want Vampire Lord form and hope ZOS can satisfy both groups of players, even if one of them seems will be forced to play without vampiric ultimate.
And i don't fully understand how new ultimate will works, i think it will be more like Werewolf ult with more powerful versions of regular vampire skills, but not with complete new ones.

Shardaxx

Has someone got a link to the vamp changes coming soon please?

Noxavian

Shardaxx wrote: »

Has someone got a link to the vamp changes coming soon please?

...They haven't officially revealed the full changes yet. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist.