ZOS: Please delete Istirus Outpost deathmatch arena

Langeston

I feel like I can say with relative certainty that nearly everyone playing BGs would love to see that map be decommissioned. While I'm sure there's probably a handful of deranged individuals out there that do like it, I honestly don't know a single person that would be sad to see it go.

Iskiab

At least it’s a death match. My most hated is any capture the relic game.

ApostateHobo

I actually really like that map...

Langeston

Iskiab wrote: »

At least it’s a death match. My most hated is any capture the relic game.

I actually normally enjoy myself when I wind up playing relic, because (for the most part) you can't brute-force your way it — usually it requires a bit more thought & strategy.

An Istirus deathmatch on the other hand is just one giant AOE cluster****, which is not particularly enjoyable for me at all.

Langeston

ApostateHobo wrote: »

I actually really like that map...

I mentioned you in the beginning of the second sentence. 😉

MurderMostFoul

Signed, the map sucks for DM

Commandment

That's a great map. Well suited for deathmatch.

wheem_ESO

I also hate how bad Blastbones is on this map. It gets LOS'd constantly, even if the target isn't specifically trying to avoid it, which often seems to confuse the AI.

Joinovikova

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Signed, the map sucks for DM

.. for Ball game.. its totaly suck

Langeston wrote: »

I feel like I can say with relative certainty that nearly everyone playing BGs would love to see that map be decommissioned. While I'm sure there's probably a handful of deranged individuals out there that do like it, I honestly don't know a single person that would be sad to see it go.

I agree this map is cancer.. total unplayable for nearly any ranged builds..

exeeter702

Commandment wrote: »

That's a great map. Well suited for deathmatch.

I respectfully disagree.

Thogard

That is the melee-biased map
Foyada quarry is the ranged-biased map

precambria

I like that one it is for sure biased to my classes just like how some maps are a free win for sorcs and others are for magshot/clench fools to their death,

Eld Angvar is the worst for all classes because it prevents teams from being even able to regroup properly and the port thing is bad especially in Solo Queue because you go to the port where team is, chances are you will spawn in enemy line or if you go to port where team is not there is a good chance you will get ran down by 3 people trying to regroup or team is up a stairs with 2 teams cutting you off from them, otherwise it is nice but the port needs to go just make people spawn above where the flag for each team is placed.

Danklord

Thogard wrote: »

That is the melee-biased map
Foyada quarry is the ranged-biased map

So, rework/remove both. The stupid lava is so obnoxious.

WrathOfInnos

wheem_ESO wrote: »

I also hate how bad Blastbones is on this map. It gets LOS'd constantly, even if the target isn't specifically trying to avoid it, which often seems to confuse the AI.

You can cast Blastbones 1m from a stationary target in an open field and it will confuse the AI. Taking anywhere from 5-8s to remember it was supposed to explode at 2.

Urzigurumash

precambria wrote: »

Eld Angvar is the worst for all classes because it prevents teams from being even able to regroup properly and the port thing is bad especially in Solo Queue because you go to the port where team is, chances are you will spawn in enemy line or if you go to port where team is not there is a good chance you will get ran down by 3 people trying to regroup or team is up a stairs with 2 teams cutting you off from them, otherwise it is nice but the port needs to go just make people spawn above where the flag for each team is placed.

I enjoy Eld Angvar most of the time, but especially for Relic.

As for Istirus, definitely not the best Death Match rink, but Crazy King can be fun there. It would be nice if they made the tower flag a little more consistent as to capturing it from the ground level. Either expand the range of the flag so you don't have to stand in such a precise spot, or diminish it so you must go upstairs.

Thogard

precambria wrote: »

I like that one it is for sure biased to my classes just like how some maps are a free win for sorcs and others are for magshot/clench fools to their death,

Eld Angvar is the worst for all classes because it prevents teams from being even able to regroup properly and the port thing is bad especially in Solo Queue because you go to the port where team is, chances are you will spawn in enemy line or if you go to port where team is not there is a good chance you will get ran down by 3 people trying to regroup or team is up a stairs with 2 teams cutting you off from them, otherwise it is nice but the port needs to go just make people spawn above where the flag for each team is placed.

@precambria you need to learn how the portal mechanics work. Eld angvar is the easiest map to rejoin your team on. Use your map and port to your team.

CatastrophicSuccess

Istirus Outpost is a great map for deathmatch. Doesn't take long to immediately get back into fights but there's still plenty of options to kite or los your way out of a fight that's going poorly. It favors melee combat and individuals can be more effective.

Compared to Foyada Quarry where there's very little options to los. It favors ranged combat and teams are more effective.

Clearly some maps suit certain playstyles. The variance between maps makes games feel more unique and provides us with a more diverse experience.

Valabrog

Its my favorite map.

MicahMahaffey

It's my favorite map for everything but deathmatch

MaisonNaevius

I really like Istirus. (The chances of seeing it in PvE in the Colovian Estates have collapsed... Will we just have the exterior facades and the fort to the east?)
But I don't understand why the map was reduced to the arena for deathmatch.