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How viable would this be?

MagicPie
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Hi all, my main is templar and i am a healer and having a blast healing vet dungeons. However i dislike having to use staff to dps when i am doing solo open world stuff and i would like to know how viable would it be to use 2H Sword/Axe or maybe a sword/shield when doing quests and open world stuff as magicka user tho. Any info is appreciated!

Edit: I was hoping to go for a paladin kind of character, main spec healer and then maybe using sword and shield when doing solo pve stuff in open world.
Edited by MagicPie on March 18, 2020 12:59PM
  • Asardes
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    Viable, though not optimal. If you're a Templar you can indeed run a 2H sword or 2x 1H swords on your front bar, for the extra 6% damage done (Two Handed: Heavy Weapons, Dual Wield: Twin Blade and Blunt passives for swords), and use mostly class or generic skills, but you'll do less damage overall because light attack from those weapons scale off your weapon damage & maximum stamina and are melee only.

    But in dungeons always use Restoration staff front bar, lightning staff back bar. Since other people depend on your healing you can't really "play as you like" there. The skill setup is pretty much the one from this build, though you can change some things around. Personally I've found it to be the most effective overall. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=52481
    Edited by Asardes on March 18, 2020 1:07PM
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  • Iskiab
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    For open world you’ll be fine. Just don’t use a 2H in dungeons.

    The destro passive that gives magicka when a mob dies is too important, with all the trash mobs without a destro staff you’ll have sustain issues. If you did dungeons at level 30 and remember how bad sustain was, it’d be like that.
    Edited by Iskiab on March 18, 2020 1:24PM
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  • mague
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    CiferX wrote: »
    Hi all, my main is templar and i am a healer and having a blast healing vet dungeons. However i dislike having to use staff to dps when i am doing solo open world stuff and i would like to know how viable would it be to use 2H Sword/Axe or maybe a sword/shield when doing quests and open world stuff as magicka user tho. Any info is appreciated!

    Edit: I was hoping to go for a paladin kind of character, main spec healer and then maybe using sword and shield when doing solo pve stuff in open world.

    No problem at all. I do this with my healer. Dual Wield swords and just two points into the Twin Blade and blunt passive.
    Swap to 5 Julianos and 5 Ancient Dragon or similar. Use magic glyph and one to increase your WDand MD. Plenty of dps and heals to solo dugeons for keys. Personally i like the light set from Tempest island and Bahrahas. This way i dont need the weapons for sustain. Big fun.
  • MagicPie
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    I am all set for healing in dungeons and i did all of them (except cp300 ones since i am not cp300 yet).
    I was just wondering about solo stuff.
    Edited by MagicPie on March 18, 2020 1:23PM
  • mague
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    CiferX wrote: »
    I am all set for dungeons and i did all of them (except cp300 ones since i am not cp300 yet).
    I was just wondering about solo stuff.

    The same for solo stuff. Just crafted Julianos and Anchient dragon is overkill. Monster is optional for the fun.
    Edited by mague on March 18, 2020 1:25PM
  • MagicPie
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    I was thinking of using resto staff on main bar for vet dungeons healing and sword+shield on off bar (for solo pve stuff)
    Edited by MagicPie on March 18, 2020 1:28PM
  • Asardes
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    This is my solo build, not using swords though, but dual lightning staves for more AoE damage.
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=52324

    For most dungeons it also works as support DD/off-healer since you don't need a full time healer.
    Ritual of Retribution, Purifying Light - AoE heals
    Blazing Spear - the others can pick them up for resources
    Elemental Drain - Major Breach & Minor Magickasteal
    Unstable Wall - concussion & off-balance
    Infallible Aether - Minor Vulnerability to targets (+8% damage taken) still useful since off-balance has a cooldown
    Dawn's Wrath: Illuminate - Minor Sorcery (+10% spell damage to group)
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  • MagicPie
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    Thanks for info everyone :)
  • daemonios
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    CiferX wrote: »
    I was thinking of using resto staff on main bar for vet dungeons healing and sword+shield on off bar (for solo pve stuff)

    Main bar and back bar are all part of one build. You can't heal vet dungeons, at least not efficiently, with sword and board on either of your bars. In fact, sword and shield isn't even good for solo damage, as it's intended for tanking.

    A healer should be a magicka-based character, so the best for damage would be a destro staff, magicka skills, or both. You can technically equip a two-handed weapon, dual wield 2 weapons, use a bow... But you'd be doing it just for fun. They aren't very effective in the hands of a magicka-based character.
  • MagicPie
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    Yeah i just tested it and i will make a stamina alt character instead :)
  • dazee
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    Healers can use fire or ice staff backbar, but lightning staff is most popular becuase it procs off balance.

    Also remember if you use ice staff and are not a tank, make sure you don't have Tri Focus passive.
    Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
  • Charon_on_Vacation
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    CiferX wrote: »
    Yeah i just tested it and i will make a stamina alt character instead :)

    i just came back from a two year break, so i'm not up to date yet, but if you want to make an alt character, maybe try a warden.
    back when i played, you could easily make a stamina warden healer for all the vet dungeon content. this way, you can have a character that can effectively use stamina weapons and heal dungeons without any problems at all.
    but you would have to check yourself if this is still a thing, because sets and abilities change over time.
  • Asardes
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    CiferX wrote: »
    Thanks for info everyone :)

    Yep, Stamina Templar is more close to the "Paladin" trope of classical RPGs. Medium Armor 2H/Bow is quite nice. This is my solo build: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=156047
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    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

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    Member of:
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    Characters:
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