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kinguardian
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Dear eso fam I am busy to put a pc together purely for gaming. I want it to be able to keep up with the games online and that it doesnt freak out when I have the graphics up. I dont care about pretty lights or anything just the pc doesnt have to look pretty.

This is what I came up with can you give your opinion? My budget is roughly £2000,- I saved up for a long time.
I hope you can help :)

CPU / PROCESSOR: Intel's Core i7-9700K 

MOTHERBOARD: asus rog crosshair viii hero

GRAPHICS CARD: nvidia rtx 2070

WORKING MEMORY: corsair vengeance 32gb (2x16gb) ddr4 dram 2666mhz C16 memory kit black

MEMORY CARDS: adata xpg sx8200 pro M.2 1tb ssd

wd blue 2tb 3.5 sata desktop hard drive

COOLER: Corsair H115i 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

DVD RW: liteon ihas324 24 internal dvd writer with sata retail

CASE: thermaltake versa h22 tower case with side window
  • noob in denial
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    Don't bother with HDDs, just buy SSDs M.2 nvme. You don't need watercooler, cpus overclock poorly anyway. Unless you only play poorly optimised games like ESO, you can save some money by getting an amd instead, 3700x, give up on 32GB ram and go with 2x8GB, should be enough for 3-5 years. The intel will only give about 10% more fps than the amd

    Also, spending ~200 on the motherboard is more than enough. Unless you really need some of the bling that comes with more expensive ones, but in 99% of times that is not the case. Get a more expensive case, the very cheap ones have a poor build and you have to be extra careful with them.

    On top of this, you want a good 1440p 27" 144hz screen with HDR.
  • Lysette
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    i cannot even imagine when I have used my DVD drive last time - what do you need it for?

    And another thing - there are not many games yet which would support RTX - and these cards are still quite expensive.
    Edited by Lysette on March 17, 2020 5:33PM
  • kinguardian
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    Lysette wrote: »
    i cannot even imagine when I have used my DVD drive last time - what do you need it for?

    And another thing - there are not many games yet which would support RTX - and these cards are still quite expensive.

    Yeah I dont know the guy that is going to build it suggested I put one in. I actually never use it because I buy my games on steam mostly.
  • kinguardian
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    Don't bother with HDDs, just buy SSDs M.2 nvme. You don't need watercooler, cpus overclock poorly anyway. Unless you only play poorly optimised games like ESO, you can save some money by getting an amd instead, 3700x, give up on 32GB ram and go with 2x8GB, should be enough for 3-5 years. The intel will only give about 10% more fps than the amd

    Also, spending ~200 on the motherboard is more than enough. Unless you really need some of the bling that comes with more expensive ones, but in 99% of times that is not the case. Get a more expensive case, the very cheap ones have a poor build and you have to be extra careful with them.

    On top of this, you want a good 1440p 27" 144hz screen with HDR.

    So what kind of cooler and motherboard would you advise?

    I have a good screen because I use my tv so that is covered :-)

    It is very difficult my head explodes I read up on so many things and because I dont really know what it all means its a bit of a challenge.

  • daemonios
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    I would lose the DVD drive unless you have serious plans to use it. My 3-year-old desktop has no disc drive and I've never missed it.

    32GB RAM may be overkill if performance is all you care about. I'd probably go for 16GB of higher-clocked RAM, the one I'm using is running at 3.2Ghz.

    I disagree with the person above on the HDD, it's still the better option for large volume storage, just make sure you have enough room on your SSD for the OS and any programs you're going to be running. That said, I agree you should pick a good monitor to play on if you don't have one already. I play ESO on a 4k OLED screen and although it doesn't have the refresh rate of good PC monitors, it still looks gorgeous.

    I also went for a water cooler in my setup not for cooling reasons, but because the cooling power is so much higher that it allows the fans to run very quietly, which was important for me. If you don't care about that and you're hitting your budget, I wouldn't make water cooling a priority.
  • noob in denial
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    Don't bother with HDDs, just buy SSDs M.2 nvme. You don't need watercooler, cpus overclock poorly anyway. Unless you only play poorly optimised games like ESO, you can save some money by getting an amd instead, 3700x, give up on 32GB ram and go with 2x8GB, should be enough for 3-5 years. The intel will only give about 10% more fps than the amd

    Also, spending ~200 on the motherboard is more than enough. Unless you really need some of the bling that comes with more expensive ones, but in 99% of times that is not the case. Get a more expensive case, the very cheap ones have a poor build and you have to be extra careful with them.

    On top of this, you want a good 1440p 27" 144hz screen with HDR.

    So what kind of cooler and motherboard would you advise?

    I have a good screen because I use my tv so that is covered :-)

    It is very difficult my head explodes I read up on so many things and because I dont really know what it all means its a bit of a challenge.

    Any 40-60E cooler should do the job easily, just make sure it's height is supported by whatever case you choose. TVs can't even come close to a gaming monitor, but if the distance to the screen is big yeah a tv can do the job.
    Also, get a motherboard with TWO M.2 NVMe slots for fast SSDs.
    Keep in mind, if you get a mechanical HDD it will be the slowest piece in your pc, by far, even if you use it for storage. As a comparison the 1TB ~120E nvme SSDs are over 10 times quicker than an HDD and you install them directly on your motherboard, no more cables. 2TB one costs ~250euros.
  • MEBengalsFan2001
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    I would go with the AMD Ryzen CPUs now; they out perform Intel.
  • Charon_on_Vacation
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    consider a ryzen 3700x CPU and ddr4 ram with 3200mhz, in the long run, it will be the better choice.
    you can go for 32gb, but 16bg should be all you need. just make sure you only buy two sticks of ram.
    also, listen to the guys that tell you to buy SSD(s).

  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    As others have said, I would ditch the traditional Hard Drive unless you are going big on the size. I have a 6TB drive in my computer just for the storage, but I put everything else on M2 drives. I would double up on SSDs before I added an oldschool HDD.

    No reason for a DVD drive, that said, they cost next to nothing. Only thing to really consider is your original Install of your OS. Easy to get it on a thumb drive, but if you have it on DVD, a cheap drive might simplify your life.

    Dont read too much into the AMD Intel Debate. Either will work just fine. I personally prefer intel. You will likely also have a slightly bigger selection of MOBOs for intel.

    If you can afford 32 gigs of ram, no reason not to. That will be plenty of overhead for any gaming application. 16 should be plenty for most things, but a lot of multi tasking could give you issues.

    Those Corsair water coolers are actually really slick. Is it wild overkill for cooling? Yep, especially if you dont over clock, but you do need a CPU cooler. They dont cost all that much more than a good fan CPU cooler. I have an older version of the model you listed. It's quiet and works really well. Just be sure your case has the radiator space for it.

    Also, Check out Corsair cases. They are a little more than Thermaltake for most things (I have built in both), but Corsair cases are my go to at this point. Unless you really plan to carry it around, once you go full tower, you will never go back. The room is really nice for building and for the aesthetics (cable management, etc) when you are done.

    Lastly, whatever you do, dont forget about the monitor. I will argue it's the most important part of any rig. If you just plan to play games at 1080p @60Hz, you don't need to spend much on a rig. The flipside is that the nicest monitor on the planet wont look good on a cheap rig. You need to think about things in terms of bottlenecks and the weakest link. Don't let you monitor be the weak link. Kinda like spending a bunch on an amplifier for crappy speakers.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on March 18, 2020 5:04PM
  • Lixiviant
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    Lysette wrote: »
    i cannot even imagine when I have used my DVD drive last time - what do you need it for?

    And another thing - there are not many games yet which would support RTX - and these cards are still quite expensive.

    Turbotax, because I can get it so cheap at Costco! And, some games at a good price on Amazon.

    Other than that, nothing. :D
  • kinguardian
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    Thanks guys I think I have it figured out.

    The reason I play on my the is because I am mostly bedbound and a new tv is what is next on the agenda so no worries about the monitor.

    I need a good cooling system because the pc will be on for many hours at a time mostly playing games plus I download movies and they take up some storage. All games will be played if the ssd and the rest what is storage would go on the normal ones. I will change that because your advise.

    Thanks guys lets see we get this puppy build :)
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