A rant to ZOS for breaking my game. (Re: solo queue)

merrypranxter

way to go, ***. You broke my game. Every day for over a year now I’ve looked forward to hanging out in party with all my battleground friends and healing them in there. We had ALLLL the fun.

And bc some stupid casuals complained they were getting their asses kicked too much, you can no longer cue with friends. You can only play with randos. It’s the *** WORST. And now all my bg friends are bored and [snip] nobody ever wants to play anymore, some of them completely left the game... and even when you do hang out in party and do them together, you’re never on the same team. And it’s just not any *** fun any more.

I mean wtf? An MMORPG where you’re not allowed to actually play with your [snip] friends? You’ve always encouraged being social, and then they go and pull this *** move on those of us that actually spend our game time in the battlegrounds. Those of us that PUT IN THE TIME to get good... those of us that got our asses creamed over and over and over for months and well, over a year for me before I was even decent at it. But I took my woopin’s to get to be one of the “good” players. I put in A LOT of *** hours. I know it’s a game but it was also a lot of *** hard work to get to this point.

And for what? For yall to bend over for the casual whiney crybabies who spend 15 minutes- MAYBE 30 minutes a day doing their daily random for xp. People who refused to just take their woopins like the rest of us.... and do one or 2 very reluctant battlegrounds a day just for the XP, then they go back to their happy little dungeons and trials. I am soooo disappointed. Playing this *** just makes me sad now. Way to go. (And ftr- A LOT of us feel this way. At least those of us that do the damn things regularly for fun.

(Feel free to troll me for being a whiney ***, or if you disagree, or if it’ll get you off. I don’t even care. Whatever.)

/rant

[edited for profanity]

Tyrannitar

DAMN GIRL I FEEL YOU

Just saw you post this on Facebook, but DRAG THEM

merrypranxter

You can bet your sweet *** ass I am

Thogard

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

buzzclops

Thogard wrote: »

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

If you want to play solo go to Skyrim? See how shallow these arguments are? It almost feels like you’re purposely baiting a toxic conversation. The pace of pvp in bgs is a lot more fun. It’s fast and when you die you just go back at it. Cyrodill is boring af and the build diversity is way better in no-Cp a lot more things are viable and playing with friends makes even more builds viable as you can cover some weaknesses for your teammates. Kinda like every single mmos out there... I will Never understand why ppl wanted such a casual experience out of bgs. Bgs is what brought me to this game. I play on the ps4 and we’ve had a guild that would form premades and fight each other’s. Now there’s no point. It’s like nobody knew these players and guilds existed. I’ve played high mmr arena in Wow for a decade, and playing duo with my brother and coordinating perfect cc/burst combos like we did in 2v2s was what made us transition to eso from wow when they added bgs. There is answers to anything in no cp. there’s no such thing as unkillable healers/tanks. Ppl that complained just complained and will still complain on the next “broken” “aids” “cancer” “carry spec”. This whole thing is so disconnected from what PvP is supposed to be.

Beardimus

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Kidgangster101

Beardimus wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Yep add ranked group play where any size group even 1 person can que. Give special rewards as you rank up and change the rewards every month or 2 so people always want to do ranked.

Add an Unranked mode where solo only can que because after all this is a more random way of playing it shouldn't be rewarding to randomly que with a healer or people sticking together.

Then add a custom unranked mode where you can form the entire match so you can have a 4v4v4 so entire guilds can practice.

wheem_ESO

buzzclops wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

If you want to play solo go to Skyrim? See how shallow these arguments are? It almost feels like you’re purposely baiting a toxic conversation. The pace of pvp in bgs is a lot more fun. It’s fast and when you die you just go back at it. Cyrodill is boring af and the build diversity is way better in no-Cp a lot more things are viable and playing with friends makes even more builds viable as you can cover some weaknesses for your teammates. Kinda like every single mmos out there... I will Never understand why ppl wanted such a casual experience out of bgs. Bgs is what brought me to this game. I play on the ps4 and we’ve had a guild that would form premades and fight each other’s. Now there’s no point. It’s like nobody knew these players and guilds existed. I’ve played high mmr arena in Wow for a decade, and playing duo with my brother and coordinating perfect cc/burst combos like we did in 2v2s was what made us transition to eso from wow when they added bgs. There is answers to anything in no cp. there’s no such thing as unkillable healers/tanks. Ppl that complained just complained and will still complain on the next “broken” “aids” “cancer” “carry spec”. This whole thing is so disconnected from what PvP is supposed to be.

BGs can't be compared to WoW's Arena system. Unfortunately, ESO simply doesn't have anything like the Arenas, though plenty of us wishes that it did.

If you truly want something akin to WoW's Arenas, you should endeavor to actually make that point rather than just railing against the queue changing to solo-only. Reverting the change wouldn't suddenly bring about an Arena-like system, where matches would mostly be competitive premade-vs-premade(-vs-premade) games. The only exception would be the re-allowing of organized 4v4v4 premade matches, which certainly accounted for a miniscule fraction of total BGs.

buzzclops

. [/quote]
BGs can't be compared to WoW's Arena system. Unfortunately, ESO simply doesn't have anything like the Arenas, though plenty of us wishes that it did.

If you truly want something akin to WoW's Arenas, you should endeavor to actually make that point rather than just railing against the queue changing to solo-only. Reverting the change wouldn't suddenly bring about an Arena-like system, where matches would mostly be competitive premade-vs-premade(-vs-premade) games. The only exception would be the re-allowing of organized 4v4v4 premade matches, which certainly accounted for a miniscule fraction of total BGs.[/quote]

I agree with you but I’m just tired of people saying “go to Cyro if you want group play”. like the person above me said, there is no case against group queues. There should be both even if I have to wait 30 mins for my game. Not allowing me to group up for at least 1 patch cycle is absurd. I paid for that feature when I got morrowind few years ago. In solo q right now the games are too easy I do ridiculous numbers because I play hybrids magicka dps/heals. Yes it’s fun to just destroy everyone but there’s nothing competitive about it. Point is just give us both options. OR at least zos give us an idea of where the “experiment” is at. I think the most frustrating part is having no clue what’s next. They need to update us on this.

XxMissAlycexX

merrypranxter wrote: »

way to go, ***. You broke my game. Every day for over a year now I’ve looked forward to hanging out in party with all my battleground friends and healing them in there. We had ALLLL the fun.

And bc some stupid casuals complained they were getting their asses kicked too much, you can no longer cue with friends. You can only play with randos. It’s the *** WORST. And now all my bg friends are bored and pissed off and nobody ever wants to play anymore, some of them completely left the game... and even when you do hang out in party and do them together, you’re never on the same team. And it’s just not any *** fun any more.

I mean wtf? An MMORPG where you’re not allowed to actually play with your *** friends? You’ve always encouraged being social, and then they go and pull this *** move on those of us that actually spend our game time in the battlegrounds. Those of us that PUT IN THE TIME to get good... those of us that got our asses creamed over and over and over for months and well, over a year for me before I was even decent at it. But I took my woopin’s to get to be one of the “good” players. I put in A LOT of *** hours. I know it’s a game but it was also a lot of *** hard work to get to this point.

And for what? For yall to bend over for the casual whiney crybabies who spend 15 minutes- MAYBE 30 minutes a day doing their daily random for xp. People who refused to just take their woopins like the rest of us.... and do one or 2 very reluctant battlegrounds a day just for the XP, then they go back to their happy little dungeons and trials. I am soooo disappointed. Playing this *** just makes me sad now. Way to go. (And ftr- A LOT of us feel this way. At least those of us that do the damn things regularly for fun.

(Feel free to troll me for being a whiney ***, or if you disagree, or if it’ll get you off. I don’t even care. Whatever.)

/whiney ass rant

I 100% Agree here.

Since faction lock came back BGS was where i could play with the circles of friends that play other alliances ect.

Honestly PVP isnt enjoyable anymore. Im not able to be flexable and heal and help my friends when and if they need me.

BIG thumbs down.

Freakin_Hytte

It's just such a weird change and there's no logic in the decision, no one would have complained if they had split it into two ques. How hard is it to make a solo and a pre-made que? It's been around for ages and it's not rocket science to implement. It's about time solo players got their own que since it's boring as hell to play against pre-mades, but whyyyyy didn't you implement a que for the others zos.

I personally don't play that many bgs and when I do it's mostly solo. But I can completely understand why people are annoyed, it is an mmo after all.

justaquickword

I'm not sure anyone who wants to queue solo wanted the group option removed, just separated.
It's already been stated that this is an experimental period for BG's.
I'm sure group queues will return in some form, but I'm not sure popping off at solo players on this forum is constructive.

HEBREWHAMMERRR

This change is like Christmas to good pvpers. It’ll balance out when MMR gets sorted but the “casuals” that complained were warranted (if that was the case). BGs are a competitive platform, there’s no CP crutch. Taking teams away puts even more emphasis on getting better and taking games over.

Been queing solo basically since day 1 morrowind and this makes me reminisce on those days as it’s the closest we’ve had to that in a long time. (Group ques didn’t work for first 4+ months if you didn’t play then).

HEBREWHAMMERRR

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Retweet.

Minyassa

Amen.

BGs are *games*, team games, and tantamount to getting together with buddies to play some football, except with weapons and fighting. So you can play a game and that's a unit of play time that has a definite ending and resolution, someone wins, others lose, you get to try again to win, you can try different tactics next time, and when you have to stop for the day you're not walking off in the middle of something. Partying with friends successful.

Cyrodiil is riding forever to go run around in a big chaotic mess with a bunch of people you may or may not know fighting over some boring stupid building for no noticeable reason whatsoever because the war is neverending and no one wins and whatever you just spent a lot of time doing is completely undone and all progress lost by the next time you go. Even if you go in with friends you just spend all your time scrambling around to keep up with random efforts to do something that doesn't matter.

There is no comparison.

Shadowdream

I'm with you here. My wife and I are filthy casuals and we actually enjoy the battle grounds-- TOGETHER. Neither of us has ANY interest playing separately. I'm not looking forward to being forced to group with randoms for events and get sworn at by children and people who take things way too seriously.

Kidgangster101

Shadowdream wrote: »

I'm with you here. My wife and I are filthy casuals and we actually enjoy the battle grounds-- TOGETHER. Neither of us has ANY interest playing separately. I'm not looking forward to being forced to group with randoms for events and get sworn at by children and people who take things way too seriously.

Yep I 100% agree here. That one match out of 100 where people work as a team will be fun but the other 99 where I can't play with my wife to 2vX teams together basically is what makes me not play bg anymore. I refuse to que as queing supports their experiment and they will say everyone is happy.

So now we go to cyrodil as people say we should and it's always the 2 of us versus zergs yep that is so much fun lol. We use to play bg for hours now after 1-2 hours if lag infested zerg fest cyrodil we log and go play another game great change eso........

MicahMahaffey

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

I used to play solo 90% of the time, I disagree, bgs have lost their soul imo. This solo queue has made BGs feel just off, I tried to play with my fiance and ended up on different teams.

I haven't touched BGs in weeks now and it used to be my main aspect of the game.

Cyrodil is not a comparable experience and you know it.

MicahMahaffey

I started playing other games after a week of solo queue.. it's truly sad, I decided to not even buy greymoor for now.. who knows if things will get better? Part of me feels like it's too late though, the damage is done

Nevasca

I still think duo-queue is the best of both worlds. 2 people together can't make as much difference compared to a whole group. Like yeah, they can coordinate DBs and what not but you see pugs doing that too on high MMR.

james_738pub18_ESO

Gave solo que an honest chance for about week. It's just not the same experience and not anywhere close to as fun as playing with friends. Haven't logged on ESO since. Just enjoy checking this forum and hope ZoS realizes what a terrible mistake they've made. I'll come back if they add group que again but have cancelled my subscription and will be playing other games for now. So glad I didn't give them more money by pre-ordering Greymoor before the patch.

Lole

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Yep add ranked group play where any size group even 1 person can que. Give special rewards as you rank up and change the rewards every month or 2 so people always want to do ranked.

Add an Unranked mode where solo only can que because after all this is a more random way of playing it shouldn't be rewarding to randomly que with a healer or people sticking together.

Then add a custom unranked mode where you can form the entire match so you can have a 4v4v4 so entire guilds can practice.

Very unlikely that they would ever make a ranked grp queue if they would make a ranked one then it will be Solo for sure...I for example wanna see how high I can come in ranked and not how high my grp can come.


But in general even when it’s understandable that it sucks for grp to not beeing able to queue together anymore, but the dmg they did inflict to others was massive and not acceptable.
The games I had vs grps were disgusting and that’s a fact and I think most people feel the same way.
Zos will have enough data about bgs and they decided based on their data they have, this will not be a decision they made just cuz of some Forum cry’s...this forum is pretty dead and not even a percent of the playerbase.

It will probably be more complicated then we might expect, bgs were never meant to be something like cs ow and all thoose other competitive pvp games...I mean let’s be real, we can’t even see our Mmr as long as that is not possible this will never be truely competitive

We can rant all we want about zos and their ”fails“ but in fact eso is one of the 3 big mmos out there and that has reasons... especially when you consider that the launch of eso was a massive Dissapointment but they made their way up there with the right decisions.
The decision to make bgs Solo for now was for sure more healthy for the game than letting it run as it was... trying to see the bigger picture sometimes helps. They have data we don’t have you shouldn’t forget that.

For all the horror scenarios sorry but I play solo as competitive as I played in Grps and maybe my mmr is high enough but I don’t have people running arround Like headless chicken in my bgs.


I played in grps myself and 8 out of 10 games was vs random grps and we hardcore stomped them, that was not enjoyable at all for me and not what i wanted from grp pvp.


All that said, yes I want a grp queue but I want it when all the background mmr stuff is properly working and fixed, and when I join 4 man grpplay then I also only wanna play vs 4man grps only and nothing else

Kidgangster101

Lole wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Yep add ranked group play where any size group even 1 person can que. Give special rewards as you rank up and change the rewards every month or 2 so people always want to do ranked.

Add an Unranked mode where solo only can que because after all this is a more random way of playing it shouldn't be rewarding to randomly que with a healer or people sticking together.

Then add a custom unranked mode where you can form the entire match so you can have a 4v4v4 so entire guilds can practice.

Very unlikely that they would ever make a ranked grp queue if they would make a ranked one then it will be Solo for sure...I for example wanna see how high I can come in ranked and not how high my grp can come.


But in general even when it’s understandable that it sucks for grp to not beeing able to queue together anymore, but the dmg they did inflict to others was massive and not acceptable.
The games I had vs grps were disgusting and that’s a fact and I think most people feel the same way.
Zos will have enough data about bgs and they decided based on their data they have, this will not be a decision they made just cuz of some Forum cry’s...this forum is pretty dead and not even a percent of the playerbase.

It will probably be more complicated then we might expect, bgs were never meant to be something like cs ow and all thoose other competitive pvp games...I mean let’s be real, we can’t even see our Mmr as long as that is not possible this will never be truely competitive

We can rant all we want about zos and their ”fails“ but in fact eso is one of the 3 big mmos out there and that has reasons... especially when you consider that the launch of eso was a massive Dissapointment but they made their way up there with the right decisions.
The decision to make bgs Solo for now was for sure more healthy for the game than letting it run as it was... trying to see the bigger picture sometimes helps. They have data we don’t have you shouldn’t forget that.

For all the horror scenarios sorry but I play solo as competitive as I played in Grps and maybe my mmr is high enough but I don’t have people running arround Like headless chicken in my bgs.


I played in grps myself and 8 out of 10 games was vs random grps and we hardcore stomped them, that was not enjoyable at all for me and not what i wanted from grp pvp.


All that said, yes I want a grp queue but I want it when all the background mmr stuff is properly working and fixed, and when I join 4 man grpplay then I also only wanna play vs 4man grps only and nothing else

So you want to see how high the ladder YOU can climb when in reality it is all RNG based because how YOU perform can be 100% how GOOD your RANDOM group is...... How does that make anything competitive? Last I checked competitive play should have very little up to chance or luck lol.

You say this is one of the top MMOs out there but in reality it is only there right now because of the lack of other MMOs that exist right now (especially on console). If there was a game with a similar combat system to this trust me people would have been left lol

Lole

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Lole wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Yep add ranked group play where any size group even 1 person can que. Give special rewards as you rank up and change the rewards every month or 2 so people always want to do ranked.

Add an Unranked mode where solo only can que because after all this is a more random way of playing it shouldn't be rewarding to randomly que with a healer or people sticking together.

Then add a custom unranked mode where you can form the entire match so you can have a 4v4v4 so entire guilds can practice.

Very unlikely that they would ever make a ranked grp queue if they would make a ranked one then it will be Solo for sure...I for example wanna see how high I can come in ranked and not how high my grp can come.


But in general even when it’s understandable that it sucks for grp to not beeing able to queue together anymore, but the dmg they did inflict to others was massive and not acceptable.
The games I had vs grps were disgusting and that’s a fact and I think most people feel the same way.
Zos will have enough data about bgs and they decided based on their data they have, this will not be a decision they made just cuz of some Forum cry’s...this forum is pretty dead and not even a percent of the playerbase.

It will probably be more complicated then we might expect, bgs were never meant to be something like cs ow and all thoose other competitive pvp games...I mean let’s be real, we can’t even see our Mmr as long as that is not possible this will never be truely competitive

We can rant all we want about zos and their ”fails“ but in fact eso is one of the 3 big mmos out there and that has reasons... especially when you consider that the launch of eso was a massive Dissapointment but they made their way up there with the right decisions.
The decision to make bgs Solo for now was for sure more healthy for the game than letting it run as it was... trying to see the bigger picture sometimes helps. They have data we don’t have you shouldn’t forget that.

For all the horror scenarios sorry but I play solo as competitive as I played in Grps and maybe my mmr is high enough but I don’t have people running arround Like headless chicken in my bgs.


I played in grps myself and 8 out of 10 games was vs random grps and we hardcore stomped them, that was not enjoyable at all for me and not what i wanted from grp pvp.


All that said, yes I want a grp queue but I want it when all the background mmr stuff is properly working and fixed, and when I join 4 man grpplay then I also only wanna play vs 4man grps only and nothing else

So you want to see how high the ladder YOU can climb when in reality it is all RNG based because how YOU perform can be 100% how GOOD your RANDOM group is...... How does that make anything competitive? Last I checked competitive play should have very little up to chance or luck lol.

You say this is one of the top MMOs out there but in reality it is only there right now because of the lack of other MMOs that exist right now (especially on console). If there was a game with a similar combat system to this trust me people would have been left lol

Are you one of thoose Elohellguys? Sry but I will tell you a secret, elohell doesn’t exist... math doesn’t lie and is fair. Rng is a factor in short Term I agree but in the long run you will be where you belong...

I suck at lol that’s why I am low ranked there, has nothing to do with my team. It’s my own plsystyle that makes me stuck there. High tier Elo players have proven it time and time again that they climb with ease
I can say the same about Csgo I can climb to ge over and over again while playing solo, but my friends still say they are stuck in dmg etc cuz of teams

It’s a little different in eso cuz it’s 3 teams still, in all matches you play there is just one consistent value and that is your own play and if you are better than the avg player in your Mmr then you will climb chances are On default 33/33/33 that you have the better players in your team.

MurderMostFoul

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Lole wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Yep add ranked group play where any size group even 1 person can que. Give special rewards as you rank up and change the rewards every month or 2 so people always want to do ranked.

Add an Unranked mode where solo only can que because after all this is a more random way of playing it shouldn't be rewarding to randomly que with a healer or people sticking together.

Then add a custom unranked mode where you can form the entire match so you can have a 4v4v4 so entire guilds can practice.

Very unlikely that they would ever make a ranked grp queue if they would make a ranked one then it will be Solo for sure...I for example wanna see how high I can come in ranked and not how high my grp can come.


But in general even when it’s understandable that it sucks for grp to not beeing able to queue together anymore, but the dmg they did inflict to others was massive and not acceptable.
The games I had vs grps were disgusting and that’s a fact and I think most people feel the same way.
Zos will have enough data about bgs and they decided based on their data they have, this will not be a decision they made just cuz of some Forum cry’s...this forum is pretty dead and not even a percent of the playerbase.

It will probably be more complicated then we might expect, bgs were never meant to be something like cs ow and all thoose other competitive pvp games...I mean let’s be real, we can’t even see our Mmr as long as that is not possible this will never be truely competitive

We can rant all we want about zos and their ”fails“ but in fact eso is one of the 3 big mmos out there and that has reasons... especially when you consider that the launch of eso was a massive Dissapointment but they made their way up there with the right decisions.
The decision to make bgs Solo for now was for sure more healthy for the game than letting it run as it was... trying to see the bigger picture sometimes helps. They have data we don’t have you shouldn’t forget that.

For all the horror scenarios sorry but I play solo as competitive as I played in Grps and maybe my mmr is high enough but I don’t have people running arround Like headless chicken in my bgs.


I played in grps myself and 8 out of 10 games was vs random grps and we hardcore stomped them, that was not enjoyable at all for me and not what i wanted from grp pvp.


All that said, yes I want a grp queue but I want it when all the background mmr stuff is properly working and fixed, and when I join 4 man grpplay then I also only wanna play vs 4man grps only and nothing else

So you want to see how high the ladder YOU can climb when in reality it is all RNG based because how YOU perform can be 100% how GOOD your RANDOM group is...... How does that make anything competitive? Last I checked competitive play should have very little up to chance or luck lol.

You say this is one of the top MMOs out there but in reality it is only there right now because of the lack of other MMOs that exist right now (especially on console). If there was a game with a similar combat system to this trust me people would have been left lol

RNG teammates do effect the outcome of matches, but so does your personal performance. You want to overcome having bad players on your team, play better.

yodased

I don't play BGs and I queue solo or duo in pvp so I don't really have a dog in this fight BUT isn't there Imperial city that is very similar to BG death match?

I mean I get that there isn't like timed events and whatever, but from what I remember upper IC is pretty similiar in the TTC and respawn like BGS

Syrusthevirus187

@merrypranxter you say you enjoyed healing your group while they only worried about doing damage? That's one of the main reasons solo q was asked for.

Kidgangster101

Lole wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Lole wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Yep add ranked group play where any size group even 1 person can que. Give special rewards as you rank up and change the rewards every month or 2 so people always want to do ranked.

Add an Unranked mode where solo only can que because after all this is a more random way of playing it shouldn't be rewarding to randomly que with a healer or people sticking together.

Then add a custom unranked mode where you can form the entire match so you can have a 4v4v4 so entire guilds can practice.

Very unlikely that they would ever make a ranked grp queue if they would make a ranked one then it will be Solo for sure...I for example wanna see how high I can come in ranked and not how high my grp can come.


But in general even when it’s understandable that it sucks for grp to not beeing able to queue together anymore, but the dmg they did inflict to others was massive and not acceptable.
The games I had vs grps were disgusting and that’s a fact and I think most people feel the same way.
Zos will have enough data about bgs and they decided based on their data they have, this will not be a decision they made just cuz of some Forum cry’s...this forum is pretty dead and not even a percent of the playerbase.

It will probably be more complicated then we might expect, bgs were never meant to be something like cs ow and all thoose other competitive pvp games...I mean let’s be real, we can’t even see our Mmr as long as that is not possible this will never be truely competitive

We can rant all we want about zos and their ”fails“ but in fact eso is one of the 3 big mmos out there and that has reasons... especially when you consider that the launch of eso was a massive Dissapointment but they made their way up there with the right decisions.
The decision to make bgs Solo for now was for sure more healthy for the game than letting it run as it was... trying to see the bigger picture sometimes helps. They have data we don’t have you shouldn’t forget that.

For all the horror scenarios sorry but I play solo as competitive as I played in Grps and maybe my mmr is high enough but I don’t have people running arround Like headless chicken in my bgs.


I played in grps myself and 8 out of 10 games was vs random grps and we hardcore stomped them, that was not enjoyable at all for me and not what i wanted from grp pvp.


All that said, yes I want a grp queue but I want it when all the background mmr stuff is properly working and fixed, and when I join 4 man grpplay then I also only wanna play vs 4man grps only and nothing else

So you want to see how high the ladder YOU can climb when in reality it is all RNG based because how YOU perform can be 100% how GOOD your RANDOM group is...... How does that make anything competitive? Last I checked competitive play should have very little up to chance or luck lol.

You say this is one of the top MMOs out there but in reality it is only there right now because of the lack of other MMOs that exist right now (especially on console). If there was a game with a similar combat system to this trust me people would have been left lol

Are you one of thoose Elohellguys? Sry but I will tell you a secret, elohell doesn’t exist... math doesn’t lie and is fair. Rng is a factor in short Term I agree but in the long run you will be where you belong...

I suck at lol that’s why I am low ranked there, has nothing to do with my team. It’s my own plsystyle that makes me stuck there. High tier Elo players have proven it time and time again that they climb with ease
I can say the same about Csgo I can climb to ge over and over again while playing solo, but my friends still say they are stuck in dmg etc cuz of teams

It’s a little different in eso cuz it’s 3 teams still, in all matches you play there is just one consistent value and that is your own play and if you are better than the avg player in your Mmr then you will climb chances are On default 33/33/33 that you have the better players in your team.

You know how MMR works right? Lol it's by time played not performance so high mmr players might just play a lot that doesn't mean they are better than another person. So I'm fact rng can be a huge deciding factor long term not just short term.

The more casual player that plays a few BG a night will be farming low mmr players just because they don't play often or they have 14 alts, each alt has their own mmr........

So how do I get to higher mmr if Joe smoe plays 12 hrs a day of just BG weather he is good or not and his mmr will be higher than mine?

So again EVERYTHING in this current system is rng. In the old system it was not rng because YOU could choose a group or to que solo. No choice now leaves only rng. Like is it rng we win chaos ball because we got a tank? Or maybe a tank plus a healer?

Kidgangster101

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BGs being solo queue only is the single greatest thing to happen to BGs since launch

If you want to play with friends go to cyrodil

Silly argument. Offering choice wouldn't harm the solo queue. There's no case against a group queue as well in fact add a leaderboard and private Battlegrounds and away we go

Yep add ranked group play where any size group even 1 person can que. Give special rewards as you rank up and change the rewards every month or 2 so people always want to do ranked.

Add an Unranked mode where solo only can que because after all this is a more random way of playing it shouldn't be rewarding to randomly que with a healer or people sticking together.

Then add a custom unranked mode where you can form the entire match so you can have a 4v4v4 so entire guilds can practice.

Very unlikely that they would ever make a ranked grp queue if they would make a ranked one then it will be Solo for sure...I for example wanna see how high I can come in ranked and not how high my grp can come.


But in general even when it’s understandable that it sucks for grp to not beeing able to queue together anymore, but the dmg they did inflict to others was massive and not acceptable.
The games I had vs grps were disgusting and that’s a fact and I think most people feel the same way.
Zos will have enough data about bgs and they decided based on their data they have, this will not be a decision they made just cuz of some Forum cry’s...this forum is pretty dead and not even a percent of the playerbase.

It will probably be more complicated then we might expect, bgs were never meant to be something like cs ow and all thoose other competitive pvp games...I mean let’s be real, we can’t even see our Mmr as long as that is not possible this will never be truely competitive

We can rant all we want about zos and their ”fails“ but in fact eso is one of the 3 big mmos out there and that has reasons... especially when you consider that the launch of eso was a massive Dissapointment but they made their way up there with the right decisions.
The decision to make bgs Solo for now was for sure more healthy for the game than letting it run as it was... trying to see the bigger picture sometimes helps. They have data we don’t have you shouldn’t forget that.

For all the horror scenarios sorry but I play solo as competitive as I played in Grps and maybe my mmr is high enough but I don’t have people running arround Like headless chicken in my bgs.


I played in grps myself and 8 out of 10 games was vs random grps and we hardcore stomped them, that was not enjoyable at all for me and not what i wanted from grp pvp.


All that said, yes I want a grp queue but I want it when all the background mmr stuff is properly working and fixed, and when I join 4 man grpplay then I also only wanna play vs 4man grps only and nothing else

So you want to see how high the ladder YOU can climb when in reality it is all RNG based because how YOU perform can be 100% how GOOD your RANDOM group is...... How does that make anything competitive? Last I checked competitive play should have very little up to chance or luck lol.

You say this is one of the top MMOs out there but in reality it is only there right now because of the lack of other MMOs that exist right now (especially on console). If there was a game with a similar combat system to this trust me people would have been left lol

RNG teammates do effect the outcome of matches, but so does your personal performance. You want to overcome having bad players on your team, play better.

Yep I can go 12+ and 0 doing amazing but if my team mates don't get a few kills we lose, but then again maybe I should play better and beat 8 other people as a solo player right?

x48rph

I only play bgs solo but I still think it's stupid not to let people queue as a group in bgs. All I can say is be vocal and loud about your disapproval, especially on places other than the forums and zos might listen. I expect group queueing will return eventually but whether it's next patch, next year or 3 years down the road remains to be seen.

Personally, and it's just my speculation, I think it had less to do with 'groups' being too good and more to do with the shoddy coding involved with match making and filling the teams. Cuts down on issues when it only has to look at each person individually as opposed to balancing others against an already made team.

precambria

Solo queue Not good, I'm fairly confident I play the most of anyone right now and what I can tell you is it's basically pure RNG the game is usually over before it starts and even the wins feel bad.

Most of the time I spend in bg is getting zerged down, the group play dynamic is pretty much gone from the vast majority of games which could easily be solved by being able to have a duo partner and face other duo.

You know a game is in an ill state of health when you don't even feel like your place matters or that the wins are anything more than the other teams had some kid who fed cause out of position and MMR grouping, and because of the consistently bad map design it is very hard for people to even figure out how to reach their teams assuming they even have one worth grouping with. 3 way PVP is hectic and requires team work, who works well together... actual teams sometimes the stars align and there is an actually good game but that has happened for me less than ten times since the patch.

People are having so much fun they are leaving matches or quitting the game.

H.