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Who the heck is Roguzog? (Confirmed)

Aliyavana
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https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Roguzog for reference. He has both dialogue on whether you have met him or not before yet I cannot remember meeting him. none of the wikis have a location recorded on where he is met previously.

Edit: Thanks to RaddlemanNumber7 for his speculation, after testing, I can confirm he will recognize you if you have done any of Skordo the Knife's quests.
Edited by Aliyavana on December 9, 2020 5:08AM
  • Sylvermynx
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    From that UESP article:

    Roguzog is an Orc visitor to Summerset Isle who can be found near the northwest gate into Alinor, just south of the entrance to the Alinor Outlaws Refuge.

    He has embroiled himself in an altercation with the High Elf noble Lirendel who, after having insulted Roguzog, refuses to duel on the basis he doesn't know the dueling customs of the Altmer. Roguzog asks for your help in resolving the situation.

    I've run into him there various times, but that's not the sort of quest I'm interested in....

    Unless you mean you've met him somewhere else?
    Edited by Sylvermynx on March 10, 2020 9:32PM
  • Aliyavana
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    From that UESP article:

    Roguzog is an Orc visitor to Summerset Isle who can be found near the northwest gate into Alinor, just south of the entrance to the Alinor Outlaws Refuge.

    He has embroiled himself in an altercation with the High Elf noble Lirendel who, after having insulted Roguzog, refuses to duel on the basis he doesn't know the dueling customs of the Altmer. Roguzog asks for your help in resolving the situation.

    I've run into him there various times, but that's not the sort of quest I'm interested in....

    Unless you mean you've met him somewhere else?

    I mean where he is found previously. his dialogue implies that you can meet him in some other place outside of summerset yet I do not even remember meeting him.
  • Arunei
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    I belieeeeeve he's one of the main characters for the Rivenspire quest line revolving around the Doomcrag and Count Verandis.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    Ah. I haven't done that quest line so far. Interesting. I've never even talked to him, just have seen him fussing with the Altmer over the duel.
  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    I have a feeling he was either a throwaway character in some other dlc or something, or was intended to be in something else but got cut. I'm thinking the latter since there would be some documentation on his other appearances.
  • Arunei
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    Nope, I was wrong haha. That Orc's name is Skordo. I know I've seen the guy you're talking about before, though. I recognized him from another quest line, but for the life of me can't remember which one. It's strange that there's no info on him outside that Summerset quest.
    Edited by Arunei on March 10, 2020 10:15PM
    Character List [RP and PvE]:
    Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
    Krisiel: Redguard Stamsorc DPS - Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
    Kiju Veran: Khajiit Stamblade DPS - Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things, nicknamed Tinykat
    Niralae Elsinal: Altmer Stamsorc DPS - Young Altmer with way too much Magicka
    Sarah Lacroix: Breton Magsorc DPS - Fledgling Vampire who drinks too much water
    Slondor: Nord Tankblade - TESified verson of Slenderman
    Marius Vastino: Imperial <insert role here> - Sarah's apathetic sire who likes to monologue
    Delthor Rellenar: Dunmer Magknight DPS - Sarah's ex who's a certified psychopath
    Lirawyn Calatare: Altmer Magplar Healer - Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
    Gondryn Beldeau: Breton Tankplar - Sarah's Mages Guild mentor and certified badass old person
    Gwendolyn Jenelle: Breton Magplar Healer - Friendly healer with a coffee addiction
    Soliril Larethian- Altmer Magblade DPS - Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
    Tevril Rallenar: Dunmer Stamcro DPS - Delthor's "special" younger brother who raises small animals as friends
    Celeroth Calatare: Bosmer <insert role here> - Shapeshifting Bosmer with enough sass to fill Valenwood

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    Avid RPer. Hit me up in-game @Ras_Lei if you're interested in getting together for some arr-pee shenanigans!
  • Cirantille
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    You would challenge me to a duel? How droll.
    But then, how can we have a proper contest? You don't even know the Altmer code of dueling, do you?
    Learn the rules and challenge me properly. Then I'll teach you some manners.


    I... just can forget :joy:
  • yodased
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    He's involved in a quest or maybe he gives you a quest in CwC. I can't remember which.
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  • Aliyavana
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    yodased wrote: »
    He's involved in a quest or maybe he gives you a quest in CwC. I can't remember which.

    For the CWC one, you are probably thinking about https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Razgurug who has a similar name
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    I believe the character was Skordo to start with but the devs decided to change its identity to Roguzog some time before Summerset was released. Maybe because it doesn't fit Skordo's repeat requirement of needing to be rescued whenever we meet him in a new zone.

    My evidence the character is Skordo:

    1) It uses Skordo's voice.

    2) I went through my characters and checked which ones got the "Hey, stranger..." dialogue, and which ones got the "That gutless High Elf..." dialogue.

    By a process of elimination, based on the zones and questlines my newer characters have done, to get the "Hey, stranger..." dialogue they needed to have done either the DC main questline or the Coldharbour questline (or both). Those are the two questlines in the base game where Skordo appears. Characters which have done neither of those two questlines got the "That gutless High Elf..." dialogue.

    I suppose the sure way to test this would be to make a new character, do one of the Skordo questlines, and see what "Roguzog" has got to say for himself then.

    Or the devs could fess up. Like that's ever going to happen, LOL.
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  • DelosTheta
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Who the heck is Roguzog

    One of Superman's enemies. You can make him go away by getting him to say his name backwards.

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    I believe the character was Skordo to start with but the devs decided to change its identity to Roguzog some time before Summerset was released. Maybe because it doesn't fit Skordo's repeat requirement of needing to be rescued whenever we meet him in a new zone.

    My evidence the character is Skordo:

    1) It uses Skordo's voice.

    2) I went through my characters and checked which ones got the "Hey, stranger..." dialogue, and which ones got the "That gutless High Elf..." dialogue.

    By a process of elimination, based on the zones and questlines my newer characters have done, to get the "Hey, stranger..." dialogue they needed to have done either the DC main questline or the Coldharbour questline (or both). Those are the two questlines in the base game where Skordo appears. Characters which have done neither of those two questlines got the "That gutless High Elf..." dialogue.

    I suppose the sure way to test this would be to make a new character, do one of the Skordo questlines, and see what "Roguzog" has got to say for himself then.

    Or the devs could fess up. Like that's ever going to happen, LOL.

    Very impressive detective work sir! I've run into several things I assume must be dialogue errors in summerset, where the possible responses do not fit information my character has.
    Edited by worrallj on March 11, 2020 1:13PM
  • Asardes
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    A dentistry student. He likes to practice on Altmer nobles.
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  • Aliyavana
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    Asardes wrote: »
    A dentistry student. He likes to practice on Altmer nobles.

    lol
  • Lixiviant
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    For a moment there I thought this was going to become a "Find Roguzog" quest :D
  • Linaleah
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    bringing this back to life, cause I think i figured out who this guy is! he is the daily quest giver in clockwork city :D
    dirty worthless casual.
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    bringing this back to life, cause I think i figured out who this guy is! he is the daily quest giver in clockwork city :D

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Roguzog is not https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Razgurug :/
    Edited by Aliyavana on April 2, 2020 3:22PM
  • silvermistktralasub17_ESO
    I believe (though it's been a while since I noticed this) that there was reference to a female relative of the orc in question. My best guess at the time (though I did not work to confirm this) was that it related to one of the quests in the Wrothgar zone, and you may not have met him himself, but a relative of his.
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    bringing this back to life, cause I think i figured out who this guy is! he is the daily quest giver in clockwork city :D

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Roguzog is not https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Razgurug :/

    huh... guess i misread the name cause it sounded so similar at a glance. back to square one? or maybe ZoS also figured that the names are close enough? O_O
    dirty worthless casual.
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    tuxon wrote: »
    Orc

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  • JamuThatsWho
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    tuxon wrote: »
    Orc

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  • Aliyavana
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    I believe the character was Skordo to start with but the devs decided to change its identity to Roguzog some time before Summerset was released. Maybe because it doesn't fit Skordo's repeat requirement of needing to be rescued whenever we meet him in a new zone.

    My evidence the character is Skordo:

    1) It uses Skordo's voice.

    2) I went through my characters and checked which ones got the "Hey, stranger..." dialogue, and which ones got the "That gutless High Elf..." dialogue.

    By a process of elimination, based on the zones and questlines my newer characters have done, to get the "Hey, stranger..." dialogue they needed to have done either the DC main questline or the Coldharbour questline (or both). Those are the two questlines in the base game where Skordo appears. Characters which have done neither of those two questlines got the "That gutless High Elf..." dialogue.

    I suppose the sure way to test this would be to make a new character, do one of the Skordo questlines, and see what "Roguzog" has got to say for himself then.

    Or the devs could fess up. Like that's ever going to happen, LOL.

    so i just tested this today on a fresh character and visited him before doing any quests to double check if his dialogue was normal. After I did the first quest you meet skordo in "Shornhelm Divided", and only that quest, i can confirm that his dialogue does indeed change as if he was originally meant to be skordo the knife. Thank you kind sir/mam/ or non-binary, I have added this note to UESP so hopefully other people that have this question will now know.
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    It seems in my excitement I have necrod a thread, opps.
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