Can no longer block while sprinting (Xbox)

oXI_Viper_IXo

Is this an intended change with the update?

Donny_Vito

There were a lot of changes to 'Block' this patch. I'd recommend reading the patch notes (they were just posted for Xbox about an hour ago) after each release as a good FYI on the documentation.

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Lol yeah, afterwards I started thinking....wouldn't that just stop your sprinting? Hah, I'm ready to get off work already.

precambria

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oXI_Viper_IXo

precambria wrote: »

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It's a genuine question. If you don't have an answer, please refrain from commenting.

oXI_Viper_IXo

Donny_Vito wrote: »

There were a lot of changes to 'Block' this patch. I'd recommend reading the patch notes (they were just posted for Xbox about an hour ago) after each release as a good FYI on the documentation.

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Lol yeah, afterwards I started thinking....wouldn't that just stop your sprinting? Hah, I'm ready to get off work already.

That's how it used to work, not after the update. I didn't see anyone mention these changes when the PC update released.

Noxavian

Did you try turning it off and on again?

TheFM

I noticed this too, same thing goes for getting off your horse on gamepad on PC too. No longer possible with block.

Donny_Vito

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Donny_Vito wrote: »

There were a lot of changes to 'Block' this patch. I'd recommend reading the patch notes (they were just posted for Xbox about an hour ago) after each release as a good FYI on the documentation.

this is bait

Lol yeah, afterwards I started thinking....wouldn't that just stop your sprinting? Hah, I'm ready to get off work already.

That's how it used to work, not after the update. I didn't see anyone mention these changes when the PC update released.

They seemed to have put some logic-based processing into 'Block' -- before you could basically always block whether you had no stamina or not, but now it doesn't seem to be that case. I did see a lot of uproar the first few days afterwards as people who did a lot of block-canceling where having issues.

Just to get it right.... before, you could actively sprint and block at the same time? That seems like a bug.

oXI_Viper_IXo

TheFM wrote: »

I noticed this too, same thing goes for getting off your horse on gamepad on PC too. No longer possible with block.

You can still dismount with blocking as long as you're not sprinting on Xbox at least.

Donny_Vito wrote: »

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Donny_Vito wrote: »

There were a lot of changes to 'Block' this patch. I'd recommend reading the patch notes (they were just posted for Xbox about an hour ago) after each release as a good FYI on the documentation.

this is bait

Lol yeah, afterwards I started thinking....wouldn't that just stop your sprinting? Hah, I'm ready to get off work already.

That's how it used to work, not after the update. I didn't see anyone mention these changes when the PC update released.

They seemed to have put some logic-based processing into 'Block' -- before you could basically always block whether you had no stamina or not, but now it doesn't seem to be that case. I did see a lot of uproar the first few days afterwards as people who did a lot of block-canceling where having issues.

Just to get it right.... before, you could actively sprint and block at the same time? That seems like a bug.

Before, you could be sprinting and still activate block (which would stop you sprinting).

Sparr0w

Same on PC with controller. Blocking while sprinting on foot or on your mount just does nothing until you stop moving.

macsmooth

While sprint mounted and sprinting the block doesn’t work to dismount or stop you from sprinting

I don’t recall reading they were making block useless for mounts and sprinting, I know they changed block but to stop dismounting too is a little much, their own tutorial says to use block or attack to dismount, attack still works

Donny_Vito

Thinking out loud....

Blocking and Sprinting are, for a lack of a better phrase, base character skills. Just like with any other skill that channels, you cannot cast another skill while you are channeling...you must stop channeling and then cast the other skill. I would suspect that Blocking now adheres to this in conjunction to Sprinting. Again, just a guess...could be completely barking up the wrong tree.

Hopefully roll-dodge was left alone though, because the thought of having to stop sprinting to roll dodge sounds horrible.

gp1680

Although I never really tried it, I thought you couldn’t sprint while blocking before? Isn’t there even a passive on sword and board that increases movement speed while blocking. It’s been awhile since I looked at that.

ArchMikem

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

precambria wrote: »

this is bait

It's a genuine question. If you don't have an answer, please refrain from commenting.

That's exactly what a baiter would say.

xWarbrain

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Before, you could be sprinting and still activate block (which would stop you sprinting).

So now if you're sprinting and hit block, you just keep sprinting and don't block? Still at work, haven't tried it yet.

devilsTear

xWarbrain wrote: »

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Before, you could be sprinting and still activate block (which would stop you sprinting).

So now if you're sprinting and hit block, you just keep sprinting and don't block? Still at work, haven't tried it yet.

This basically yeah, I used to dismount by using block but now I just keep sprinting until I let go of my analog stick.

N00BxV1

I've been complaining to friends about the recent changes to block since the update dropped on pc (gamepad). Can no longer activate block if sprinting on foot (to stop sprinting and block) or while mounted and sprinting (for dismount). And there's also all the other issues with block like it dropping for no reason (appearing to block but actually not), getting kicked from game for spamming block, etc.

Block *** sucks now. Sorry to see it made its way to consoles.

Edit: And since gamepad requires block to be held for break-free, roll-dodge and bash - these mechanics also seem clunkier.

oXI_Viper_IXo

xWarbrain wrote: »

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Before, you could be sprinting and still activate block (which would stop you sprinting).

So now if you're sprinting and hit block, you just keep sprinting and don't block? Still at work, haven't tried it yet.

Yep

Donny_Vito

N00BxV1 wrote: »

I've been complaining to friends about the recent changes to block since the update dropped on pc (gamepad). Can no longer activate block if sprinting on foot (to stop sprinting and block) or while mounted and sprinting (for dismount). And there's also all the other issues with block like it dropping for no reason (appearing to block but actually not), getting kicked from game for spamming block, etc.

Block *** sucks now. Sorry to see it made its way to consoles.

Edit: And since gamepad requires block to be held for break-free, roll-dodge and bash - these mechanics also seem clunkier.

That's no bueno. Console controllers, at least Xbox, are the same way. The left trigger (block) is used in breaking free and roll dodging.

N00BxV1

Donny_Vito wrote: »

N00BxV1 wrote: »

I've been complaining to friends about the recent changes to block since the update dropped on pc (gamepad). Can no longer activate block if sprinting on foot (to stop sprinting and block) or while mounted and sprinting (for dismount). And there's also all the other issues with block like it dropping for no reason (appearing to block but actually not), getting kicked from game for spamming block, etc.

Block *** sucks now. Sorry to see it made its way to consoles.

Edit: And since gamepad requires block to be held for break-free, roll-dodge and bash - these mechanics also seem clunkier.

That's no bueno. Console controllers, at least Xbox, are the same way. The left trigger (block) is used in breaking free and roll dodging.

Yes I was referring to xbox gamepad on pc. It's the same for consoles. LT+RT = break-free / bash, LT+A = roll-dodge. It all feels worse now.

L_Nici

You could block while sprinting? I don't think that was ever possible on PC.

Donny_Vito

L_Nici wrote: »

You could block while sprinting? I don't think that was ever possible on PC.

What the OP meant...you could actively be sprinting and then hit the block button which would make you actively blocking (but reducing your speed). Now if you hit block while actively sprinting, nothing happens.

xWarbrain

L_Nici wrote: »

You could block while sprinting? I don't think that was ever possible on PC.

No, you could be sprinting, hit block and you'd stop sprinting to block. Now you just keep sprinting if you're still pressing forward on the joystick. Just gonna be a muscle memory change to let go of the joystick I guess. Or roll dodge into block.

AzurasDaddy

Yea I came here to mention this too. Block used to stop us from sprinting to block, why change it? Also, I've been using block to dismount for years on this game zos...your tutorial taught me that! Why you change that now?

N00BxV1

AzurasDaddy wrote: »

Yea I came here to mention this too. Block used to stop us from sprinting to block, why change it? Also, I've been using block to dismount for years on this game zos...your tutorial taught me that! Why you change that now?

I've always used block to dismount. Faster than using the summon mount and safer than using attack. Also there was style in using roll-dodge to dismount. Not anymore.

ZOS_GinaBruno

This change was actually intended and was tied to the blocking changes in this update. That said, we've been seeing the feedback and are having discussions if/how it can be reverted.

Starlock

Hmm. Is this why blocking to dismount when my mount was sprinting to get to an active dolmen earlier felt glitched out? Why would they remove block dismount while sprinting on our mounts? Or just in general? So weird!

TheRealCherokeee3

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This change was actually intended and was tied to the blocking changes in this update. That said, we've been seeing the feedback and are having discussions if/how it can be reverted.

Thank you for the reply, addressing if it was/wasn't intended, and acknowledging forum feedback and actively working to respond to it. Very much appreciated in that order.

Skall66

TheFM wrote: »

I noticed this too, same thing goes for getting off your horse on gamepad on PC too. No longer possible with block.

Are you saying that on PC it works with mouse/keyboard but not with a gamepad?
it seems strange for an intended change.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

So sounds like we are going back to 'normal' Eso in a sense ?

Let's do that and remove rendered objects in Cyro and see how it goes ^^

oXI_Viper_IXo

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This change was actually intended and was tied to the blocking changes in this update. That said, we've been seeing the feedback and are having discussions if/how it can be reverted.

Thank you for the response =]