General thoughts about Cyrodill War and Emperor
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Hi there!
After all the time I spent in ESO i decided to join Alliance war because I was curious how hard it is to get the Emperor. I am not any good pvp player. I just watched and respected better than myself while in the warzone and after 10 days of fighting I managed to learn from them and did it. I did not have full build. I died many times and I killed many. It was really exhausting because I did not join the campaign from the start and I had players ahead of me. I had to drop all PVE to achieve this. So if you don't have like group of people to back you up and you join later than first day it will be hard to catch up. 90% time I was in 2 people group. Also sometimes had to defend castle from 5+ players alone. This was really cool. So I would just like to point out my general thoughts about Cyrodill from my eyes in 2020. I became top 1 from all 3 alliances (on scoreboard as I said already i'm not top1 pvp player though I know a bit about fighting). I attach 2 images of the scoreboard and from some screenshots I taken while playing. Augustus, imperial, templar the Emperor. I was dethroned after almost 14 hours by a group of around 20 players.
Positives:
-many sets, builds to choose from
-ability to become the Emperor and wield his powers! You get former Emperor title forever even after you lose emperor. Emperor regalia outfit forever.
-ability to achieve Emperor slayer achievement and many others
-possibility to play with many people and lead them to battle if they want to join you
-great battles with many players in the fields of Cyrodill in prime time
- a lot of space to fight. Most of the time it is not used but in prime time fields of Cyrodill have a lot of players and a lot of it's area is being used for group fights.
- I like the idea of 1 super huge pvp field rather than batlegrounds with catching ball etc. but everyone likes what he likes so I won't say bg's are bad
- CASTLE SIEGE! Balistas, trebuchets, catapults. That is totally what I was looking for. I like also siege weapons mechanics. They work well.
- CASTLE DEFENSE! Flaming oils and as above. Ability to repair castle after won battle. If you do it smart you can defend from many and you don't even have to have the best gear in the game!
- a lot of things in the area you can use to your advantage if you fight hard enemy like magicka sorcerers with melee character (trees, walls etc.)
- I like the idea of Forts and 3 factions. If you want to keep emperor for longer than an hour you have to use the field wisely or you lose all quick. It becomes more like strategic game which I also like.
- General design of Cyrodill is fine apart from few bugs. The worst was game crash every 20 min but you already fixed that.
Negatives:
-Rage, jeleaous, haters, big mouthed people. They come to campaign and they never do anything for their faction but when it is time to say something insulting on the chat they always use zone chat. They only talk but in the end you won't find them at any fort siege or defense. They simply sit there to destroy your mood. I think you could use few days chatblock for those guys for this behaviour so they would just leave that zone as they are not helping in any way at all and their existence there would lose purpose with inability to spread hate on zone chat.
-People that pm you with swears after dying at duel. I think some people don't understand it is a warzone. When normal person dies he get's up and keep fighting. Those guys don't. There is nothing wrong in pming your enemy if you say to him his better and ask for hist gear. If you pm with namecalling and swears with rage because you lost it is totally wrong.
-People that think Cyrodill is a quest or RP zone. I have nothing against RP or questing but don't send butthurt pm's everytime someone kills you in the BIGEST PVP ZONE in ESO game. Maybe some kind of informing campaign what Cyrodill is for those guys?
-General lack of respect in community. That is something you get from your home I believe. Respect to other people and respect and learn from better than yourself. For example yesterday I saw some guy logged DC just to swear in zone chat at Fengrush. This guy and Alcast helped hundreds of people for free with builds and videos. How stupid you have to be to namecall them just to get attention. Again you will never see those guys at any objective, helping your faction in defense or siege nor scoreboard. You will always see them on chat with their big mouths. Then they log off. Their point is being toxic and destroy the fun for others. P.S. I'm not Fengrush fan.
-Hacks. I have big respect while losing to better player than myself. I get really annoyed when I die to sorcs spamming magic crystal every 0,1 second. (I know how their skills work. I play sorc too. I know other skills can make magic crystal shoot instant. They don't use any other skill just spam crystal with autoskil hack without animation) They login only while prime time to hide in huge pvp groups so you can not really make good video of them. Only death report but it is not really showing you much. I also met lag hack. Had group of 4 members from different country and 1 player lagged us so we could not make any actions against him. It happens only when you are close to that guy. You move away from him and lag is gone.
-Mouse macro. People that have mouse which you can program to use skills for you with very high efficient rotation of skills so you can just run,jump and roll dodge. I would just like to know if it is legal. Why I need to stress out to constantly buff myself out and choose attacking rotation when I could jest get a mouse which do that for me? That is not a real negative because you can still win sometimes. I would just like to know if it is legal?
-People abusing scoreboard. I saw a group of people focus on Drakelowe keep one day. They just stood there and kept recaping without a fight between 2 factions for points while I had to take part in almost every fight or resource/fort siege/defense on the map to get same or even less points than them. It was like 10-15 players total. I saw that only once though.
-Most of people don't know how to use siege weapons, where to buy them, what they are for and don't know about their existence. That is not really your fault though. Those who wanted to know this just learned.
-Crazy tank builds in CP. I have nothing against a good tank but I dont like hitting a guy with lots of health, physical and magical resistances regen and huge weapon damage that can 2 shot you. Also tons of resources.That should not be possible.
-People very rarely joining castles defense. Most of the time just run in for free ap tick after you do most of the job and keep is already defended. If you are losing most of the time they won't bother. Maybe they simply don't know they get bigger tick if they fight in that defense?
-Addons that show you what skills enemy will use against you ~0,5 sec before you do. Now it is hard to see who's really skilled with high reflex and who's just a potato using an addon to roll dodge. In my own personal opinion this addon is not good. I also heard you can use addon to see where enemy is in the castle without scouting. For example if his on flags or at the gate.
I think that kills most of the fight because they don't have to check just run blindly inside the keep and try to kill you.
So in general I am very satisfied with Cyrodill war. It gives a lot of fun and possibilities. Please don't come to idea with changing the zone to PVE sometime. It is one of the things that make this game better than other MMOS. Huge pvp field where you have many possibilities.
P.S. 2 Generally I think it is very good everyone can do whatever they want on this map. It is not good to open your big mouth on zone chat when you did nothing for the campaign and you only talk talk talk. I just learned not to respond to those people after yesterday. There is something wrong in their head.
This is the first time I used this forums in 2 years playtime.
Big respect to Baba Yaga from AD. I killed him only 1 time and I needed emperor powers for it. That guy is a stone!
Probably forgot a few things.
After all the time I spent in ESO i decided to join Alliance war because I was curious how hard it is to get the Emperor. I am not any good pvp player. I just watched and respected better than myself while in the warzone and after 10 days of fighting I managed to learn from them and did it. I did not have full build. I died many times and I killed many. It was really exhausting because I did not join the campaign from the start and I had players ahead of me. I had to drop all PVE to achieve this. So if you don't have like group of people to back you up and you join later than first day it will be hard to catch up. 90% time I was in 2 people group. Also sometimes had to defend castle from 5+ players alone. This was really cool. So I would just like to point out my general thoughts about Cyrodill from my eyes in 2020. I became top 1 from all 3 alliances (on scoreboard as I said already i'm not top1 pvp player though I know a bit about fighting). I attach 2 images of the scoreboard and from some screenshots I taken while playing. Augustus, imperial, templar the Emperor. I was dethroned after almost 14 hours by a group of around 20 players.
Positives:
-many sets, builds to choose from
-ability to become the Emperor and wield his powers! You get former Emperor title forever even after you lose emperor. Emperor regalia outfit forever.
-ability to achieve Emperor slayer achievement and many others
-possibility to play with many people and lead them to battle if they want to join you
-great battles with many players in the fields of Cyrodill in prime time
- a lot of space to fight. Most of the time it is not used but in prime time fields of Cyrodill have a lot of players and a lot of it's area is being used for group fights.
- I like the idea of 1 super huge pvp field rather than batlegrounds with catching ball etc. but everyone likes what he likes so I won't say bg's are bad
- CASTLE SIEGE! Balistas, trebuchets, catapults. That is totally what I was looking for. I like also siege weapons mechanics. They work well.
- CASTLE DEFENSE! Flaming oils and as above. Ability to repair castle after won battle. If you do it smart you can defend from many and you don't even have to have the best gear in the game!
- a lot of things in the area you can use to your advantage if you fight hard enemy like magicka sorcerers with melee character (trees, walls etc.)
- I like the idea of Forts and 3 factions. If you want to keep emperor for longer than an hour you have to use the field wisely or you lose all quick. It becomes more like strategic game which I also like.
- General design of Cyrodill is fine apart from few bugs. The worst was game crash every 20 min but you already fixed that.
Negatives:
-Rage, jeleaous, haters, big mouthed people. They come to campaign and they never do anything for their faction but when it is time to say something insulting on the chat they always use zone chat. They only talk but in the end you won't find them at any fort siege or defense. They simply sit there to destroy your mood. I think you could use few days chatblock for those guys for this behaviour so they would just leave that zone as they are not helping in any way at all and their existence there would lose purpose with inability to spread hate on zone chat.
-People that pm you with swears after dying at duel. I think some people don't understand it is a warzone. When normal person dies he get's up and keep fighting. Those guys don't. There is nothing wrong in pming your enemy if you say to him his better and ask for hist gear. If you pm with namecalling and swears with rage because you lost it is totally wrong.
-People that think Cyrodill is a quest or RP zone. I have nothing against RP or questing but don't send butthurt pm's everytime someone kills you in the BIGEST PVP ZONE in ESO game. Maybe some kind of informing campaign what Cyrodill is for those guys?
-General lack of respect in community. That is something you get from your home I believe. Respect to other people and respect and learn from better than yourself. For example yesterday I saw some guy logged DC just to swear in zone chat at Fengrush. This guy and Alcast helped hundreds of people for free with builds and videos. How stupid you have to be to namecall them just to get attention. Again you will never see those guys at any objective, helping your faction in defense or siege nor scoreboard. You will always see them on chat with their big mouths. Then they log off. Their point is being toxic and destroy the fun for others. P.S. I'm not Fengrush fan.
-Hacks. I have big respect while losing to better player than myself. I get really annoyed when I die to sorcs spamming magic crystal every 0,1 second. (I know how their skills work. I play sorc too. I know other skills can make magic crystal shoot instant. They don't use any other skill just spam crystal with autoskil hack without animation) They login only while prime time to hide in huge pvp groups so you can not really make good video of them. Only death report but it is not really showing you much. I also met lag hack. Had group of 4 members from different country and 1 player lagged us so we could not make any actions against him. It happens only when you are close to that guy. You move away from him and lag is gone.
-Mouse macro. People that have mouse which you can program to use skills for you with very high efficient rotation of skills so you can just run,jump and roll dodge. I would just like to know if it is legal. Why I need to stress out to constantly buff myself out and choose attacking rotation when I could jest get a mouse which do that for me? That is not a real negative because you can still win sometimes. I would just like to know if it is legal?
-People abusing scoreboard. I saw a group of people focus on Drakelowe keep one day. They just stood there and kept recaping without a fight between 2 factions for points while I had to take part in almost every fight or resource/fort siege/defense on the map to get same or even less points than them. It was like 10-15 players total. I saw that only once though.
-Most of people don't know how to use siege weapons, where to buy them, what they are for and don't know about their existence. That is not really your fault though. Those who wanted to know this just learned.
-Crazy tank builds in CP. I have nothing against a good tank but I dont like hitting a guy with lots of health, physical and magical resistances regen and huge weapon damage that can 2 shot you. Also tons of resources.That should not be possible.
-People very rarely joining castles defense. Most of the time just run in for free ap tick after you do most of the job and keep is already defended. If you are losing most of the time they won't bother. Maybe they simply don't know they get bigger tick if they fight in that defense?
-Addons that show you what skills enemy will use against you ~0,5 sec before you do. Now it is hard to see who's really skilled with high reflex and who's just a potato using an addon to roll dodge. In my own personal opinion this addon is not good. I also heard you can use addon to see where enemy is in the castle without scouting. For example if his on flags or at the gate.
I think that kills most of the fight because they don't have to check just run blindly inside the keep and try to kill you.
So in general I am very satisfied with Cyrodill war. It gives a lot of fun and possibilities. Please don't come to idea with changing the zone to PVE sometime. It is one of the things that make this game better than other MMOS. Huge pvp field where you have many possibilities.
P.S. 2 Generally I think it is very good everyone can do whatever they want on this map. It is not good to open your big mouth on zone chat when you did nothing for the campaign and you only talk talk talk. I just learned not to respond to those people after yesterday. There is something wrong in their head.
This is the first time I used this forums in 2 years playtime.
Big respect to Baba Yaga from AD. I killed him only 1 time and I needed emperor powers for it. That guy is a stone!
Probably forgot a few things.
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MrBrownstone✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wow, you gave me inspiration! I don't play in Cyrodiil much, all my PvP time is spent in Battlegrounds. I'd love to become the Emperor but never had the courage to dedicate myself enough, I always thought that it requires 7/24 PvPing but apparently it's possible even after joining late. Great job!2 -
Luede✭✭✭✭✭you have to be masochistic to play cyrodiil around the clock (with this performance). but gratsEdited by Luede on March 9, 2020 2:07PM1 -
FierceSam✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nicely done dude,
Really good to see a Cyrodiil post that isn’t an endless whinefest. Nice to hear it’s still possible to go there and have fun.
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Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TelvanniWizard wrote: »I want Emperor slayer to be a title.
Same, its the only emperor achievement I have managed to get, and it was on accident lol.
Grats to OP though! I've always wanted that achievement, but could never dedicate myself purely to it.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Kudos to you! It's great to see someone go for emp in this way, its truly an achievement! I always dreamed of trying myself but never had the guts. You're an inspiration though!Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It'd be informative to say how long it took you to gain that 3mill, and what you did to earn it. Sorry nothing personal to you but I'm very cynical of all Emps these days who lead the board with millions claiming they "just play". Especially when you say you're a PvEr who's never touched Cyrodiil before now.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!4 -
Hello, Thank you all for positive comments. How I did it? As I said I played everyday for around 10 days. I went from PVE to Cyrodill but I had a bit of experience from bg's and I have read tutorials from better players. I mostly played PVE but I am not a headless chicken (sometimes I am lol as everyone is). I just watched and learned. After few days I was better than many who spent years in Cyro but I am still worse than best from Cyro. There are peopl;e there that spent years and everyday in eso was pvp for them. Don't touch them
It is sometimes simply matter of not having brp dual weapons which are essential for templar. If you don't have them and enemy has them you die. That is simple.
I dedicated myself. I did not whine. I opened many castles alone with few balistas. I do not enter game and type lfg. I'm kind of player that takes siege weapons and gets the job done. If I wanted fort open I just dropped ram for other players so they could join me and have fun too. Then when I learned my stuff I did things like defend a castle 2v15 without EMPEROR buffs. I have it recorded. Maybe someday I will make good castle siege tutorial out of it. Generally I was farming points everyday. Also I was low rank so killing high ranked players 1v1 was giving me a lot of AP. I spent all my AP on siege weapons (All 3 millions). I did not save any. When there was a chance to win a battle I spent 20k ap for others on forward camp.
I play for a faction even though almost no one plays for me.
I did not do the achievement with any guild help.
I also gave many other faction players emperor slayer title in a fight if they deserved it. I just stood my ground and fougth to the death. If I got zerged 10v1 and someone got a title then they did not deserve it but well I just died
There is an organised group that keeps relogging now to AD/EP and hunting me or my emperorship or simply to farm AP on many sides. Most of their players can no longer take me down 1v1 or up to 3v1. With emperor buffs 1v6 is possible if they are not the sharpest arrow in the quiver. If you know what I mean ^^ They usually run now in 10-15 organised people groups and don't make it possible to play. They take tanks and healers aswell.
If you guys want me to show you join me at DC. We can make a group and if there is 10-15 of us we can smash them no problem. Though as I said above I do not whine so I would not want to team up with someone who only see bad side of the story. I would rather play solo.
I'm trying new builds everyday even though my PC is not too good, I have low fps and most of my combo don't even hit because of it
Edited by Torgauros on March 12, 2020 1:22AM0 -
dem0n1k✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well done!
It's pretty awesome that you just set your mind to it & achieved Emp ! I've never had Emp despite lots of PVP coz I just don't have the playtime available. I am even reading/writing this while at work LOL.
Just remember, hate/anger/rage tells are the salty tears of victory!
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GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Finally a person that attempted PvP without feeling victimized.
And with real manners too. Not false polite crap. Calling it as it is.Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 12, 2020 1:42AM1 -
The_Old_Goat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hey, congrats on Emp'ing! I've done it once, nearly 2 year's ago, similar to you, I was either alone or with just another player. It's a lot of running from battle to battle, repairing doors and walls in between battles, killing a delve boss every hour and a serious time commitment. Again, congrats and "GO DC!" lol.0 -
Coppes✭✭✭✭You should go talk to Clivia Tharn, if you’re the former/current Emperor she has special dialogue.2 -
dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭New costume leaked for emp:
Edited by dazee on March 12, 2020 3:56AMPlaying your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.2 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭First of all gz its not an easy to get - and thats the most important part.
Don't want to downgrade your achievement, I am doing what you do everyday and I know many people like me, but due to job and household duties we can't afford to play more than few hours daily thats why we will never get this achievement. Emperor is just a grind fest and has nothing to do with player skill etc. I have few vids where I am fighting 1v1 against 2 different emps and these are pretty even matches (and TBF defeating Volendrung wielder in 1v1 was much easier eventhough he was pretty experienced player) while on the other hand there are players which faced on even terms are much more dangerous. To sum it up, Emperor IMHO is just a title that says someone has a lot of time to play.Say no to Toxic Casuals!
I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
"Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge1 -
Michae✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I came to peace with thinking that I'll never get to be the emperor. I just don't have that much time to sink in game. All the guides I read and watched basically said that I have to sacrafice at least a week of my time for that. Does anyone have or know a group that helps to get that achievement? I don't expect a carry but some guidance and maybe some support. I'm PvE rper mostly, although I dabble in BGs, but here I'm just after the costume really. Any tips?"I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
―Sotha Sil
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Mayrael - maybe. Some people got carried by guild groups for emp. You can't expect them to actually do something.
As for Volendurg i would like you to show me how you kill experienced player with volendurg 1v1 when he has proper build on him as I don't believe it.Edited by Torgauros on March 22, 2020 3:42PM0
I also thought it is not possible but it is afterall! 
