Trial finder ?

Karmen · February 2020

I mean,

i'm in Belkarth ok.
I'm looking for a group because i want to do nSO, nAA, nHRC.
but 2 hours later, I only saw on zone chat people looking for the last trials.
I tried a lot to ask in zone for a group to do the trials I want... No response.
I have no guild and not enough friends in my buddylist to try something, and they're not all interested by trials...

How can I do ?
Is there a project about trial finder like dungeon finder ?

Thokri · February 2020

This is kinda bad time to pug with all crashes and problems.

And no there is no need for trial tool.
I rather them see add story-mode for trials and dungeons for people to experience them in lore way. To get good gear, you need to earn it.

Carespanker · February 2020

No.

Trial/Raidfinder historically has killed every mmorpg's social aspect in every single game its been introduced in. ESO's social aspects are already being reduced with zos removing group play from bg's with the obscene amounts of crashing, we do not need another social hindrance at this time.

Karmen · February 2020

and how can I do theses trials so ?

kylewwefan · February 2020

They had one.

It was apparently not good.

They got rid of it.

Never to be seen again.

Tsar_Gekkou · February 2020

Lol, it would be another buggy system that people will scream at Zos about, and it would have just as many fake tanks and fake healers as dungeon queues.

Thokri · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

and how can I do theses trials so ?

Best way is to find guild that does actively trials.

Karmen · February 2020

because you decided only guild are authorized to do it ?

r3turn2s3nd3r · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

and how can I do theses trials so ?

Fill your own group in Craglorn zone or join a guild that does them. Those are your only 2 options.

TheGreatBlackBear · February 2020

Final Fantasy XIV has a raid finder and it works well mechanically as well as it puts capable people in the group. I could queue for 4 man, content 8 man content and 24 man content without a hitch. And it's a much more mechanically complex game.

Thokri · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

because you decided only guild are authorized to do it ?

I said best way, not only way.

But seeing what you attitude is , it is no wonder no one wants you in their group.

Also there is no requirement for trial gear on solo content. Only content that "requires" trial gear is veteran hardmodes and even then it is debatable.

Karmen · February 2020

this is absurd; I wont join a guild only to do a trial.

"hello guys i 'm looking for a guild to do my trial ! "
"ok welcome to the guild"
after the trial
"thx guys for the trial goodbye !"
leaving the guild

would you join a guild only to do a daily dungeon without dungeon finder tool ?? dont be idiot.

r3turn2s3nd3r wrote: »

Karmen wrote: »

and how can I do theses trials so ?

Fill your own group in Craglorn zone.

As I said, i tried many times.

Thokri wrote: »

But seeing what you attitude is , it is no wonder no one wants you in their group.

????

PrimusNephilim · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

I mean,
i'm in Belkarth ok.
I'm looking for a group because i want to do nSO, nAA, nHRC.
but 2 hours later, I only saw on zone chat people looking for the last trials.

I tried a lot to ask in zone for a group to do the trials I want... No response.

I have no guild and not enough friends in my buddylist to try something, and they're not all interested by trials...

How can I do ?
Is there a project about trial finder like dungeon finder ?

There is no Trial finder and it would be a total train wreck if there was, it's hard enough to pug Vet dungeons with people not having the right equipment/levels to finish one.

Get with a guild or several guilds, seriously and you'll find peeps out there that willing to teach you. Every Friday ESO Reddit has a pinned page for guild recruitment and in this forum, there is guild recruitment...everyone is looking for new members. Give it a try and you'll be amazed at how many people are willing o help and how fast you'll get into Trials. ...after you do a few, you'll be like what took me so long to do this.

Good luck ~ Cheers

Carespanker · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

this is absurd; I wont join a guild only to do a trial.

"hello guys i 'm looking for a guild to do my trial ! "
"ok welcome to the guild"
after the trial
"thx guys for the trial goodbye !"
leaving the guild

would you join a guild only to do a daily dungeon without dungeon finder tool ?? dont be idiot.

????

What if I told you that trials can be done multiple times? What If I told you its beneficial to find a guild that you can regularly do trials with so you dont have to spam craglorn? What If I told you this is a social game?

Karmen · February 2020

Carespanker wrote: »

Karmen wrote: »

this is absurd; I wont join a guild only to do a trial.

"hello guys i 'm looking for a guild to do my trial ! "
"ok welcome to the guild"
after the trial
"thx guys for the trial goodbye !"
leaving the guild

would you join a guild only to do a daily dungeon without dungeon finder tool ?? dont be idiot.

????

What if I told you that trials can be done multiple times? What If I told you its beneficial to find a guild that you can regularly do trials with so you dont have to spam craglorn? What If I told you this is a social game?

And what do you think about cyrodiil and BG ? this is a social game and benefits of a guild are known, but zenimax just deleted the way to premade group in battleground and you can join cyrodiil as a solo player too. The entire craglorn zone has been nerfed from group content to solo content now, what is your argument to that ?

Playing in group of random is social too.

furiouslog · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

this is absurd; I wont join a guild only to do a trial.

"hello guys i 'm looking for a guild to do my trial ! "
"ok welcome to the guild"
after the trial
"thx guys for the trial goodbye !"
leaving the guild

would you join a guild only to do a daily dungeon without dungeon finder tool ?? dont be idiot.

r3turn2s3nd3r wrote: »

Karmen wrote: »

and how can I do theses trials so ?

Fill your own group in Craglorn zone.

As I said, i tried many times.

Thokri wrote: »

But seeing what you attitude is , it is no wonder no one wants you in their group.

????

If you just want to do the trial once, I get your issue, but honestly joining a large social guild is the best way to get opportunities to run a lot of different kinds of content, especially trials, and most people are not just running it once - they farm sets, or try to improve and move up to vet, then vetHM. Trials are typically run on discord because the mechanics are complicated and require call outs and coordination, which are common tools utilized in guilds. Two of my guilds pre-certify players to ensure they are ready to successfully run content and help you get ready to do that. The pug version of that is that many raid leaders pugging in Craglorn often require proof of clear to run a trial (which is a sensible policy), which also might be why you are not getting selected.

I'm not sure why you're resistant to the idea, but clearly what you are doing now is not working for you. I guess you need to decide which you want more - the burden of having to interact and socialize with a large group of people, or the burden of having very limited opportunities to run content.

r3turn2s3nd3r · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

this is absurd; I wont join a guild only to do a trial.

"hello guys i 'm looking for a guild to do my trial ! "
"ok welcome to the guild"
after the trial
"thx guys for the trial goodbye !"
leaving the guild

would you join a guild only to do a daily dungeon without dungeon finder tool ?? dont be idiot.

r3turn2s3nd3r wrote: »

Karmen wrote: »

and how can I do theses trials so ?

Fill your own group in Craglorn zone.

As I said, i tried many times.

Thokri wrote: »

But seeing what you attitude is , it is no wonder no one wants you in their group.

????

I'm sorry you're frustrated, but everyone here is simply giving you your options. I originally said two, but technically there's four.

1. Join a group from zone chat. - Not working for you as no one is running the stuff you want.
2. Form a group from zone chat - Not working for you as no one want's to join the stuff you want.
3. Join a guild that does trials - You just don't want to do this. Fine, that is your right / choice.
4. Give up on trials.

Sorry to be blunt about it, but these are your only options for now and the foreseeable future as there are no plans for a trial finder at this time.

Karmen · February 2020

sorry but there's no problem with random groups doing trials. There are lots of people looking for that on craglorn.

my problem is today in 2020, nobody cares about the old trials

Thokri · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

sorry but there's no problem with random groups doing trials. There are lots of people looking for that on craglorn.

my problem is today in 2020, nobody cares about the old trials

Unless you got way to change human behavior, that is the way it works on EVERY mmorpg. Tool would not change it, only make relevant trial worse for everyone.

I think ESO has highest cause to do old trials at all, for most they are completely abandoned outside achievement/mount hunters. At least on ESO old trial gear is still good.

PrimusNephilim · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

my problem is today in 2020, nobody cares about the old trials

That's just not true, in my guilds, we have new people coming in who never done Trials and we're always running them...all of them.

Karmen · February 2020

I still do not see the problem with trial finder.
There's a dungeon finder so, with your logic, we have to delete dungeon finder too ?

Commandment · February 2020

I support this idea, we already removed, teaming up in BG's might as well remove interaction's in end game trials!!! YEAHHH FOR ANTI SOCIAL MMO'SSSSS

Thokri · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

I still do not see the problem with trial finder.
There's a dungeon finder so, with your logic, we have to delete dungeon finder too ?

Go queue dlc veteran dungeon during event/pledge and you will se what the problem is.

If you don't, you are likely part of the problem.

kathandira · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

I mean,
i'm in Belkarth ok.
I'm looking for a group because i want to do nSO, nAA, nHRC.
but 2 hours later, I only saw on zone chat people looking for the last trials.

I tried a lot to ask in zone for a group to do the trials I want... No response.

I have no guild and not enough friends in my buddylist to try something, and they're not all interested by trials...

How can I do ?
Is there a project about trial finder like dungeon finder ?

After about 20mins, if spamming 'LFG' doesn't work, it may be time to create your own group.

Nanfoodle · February 2020

Thokri wrote: »

This is kinda bad time to pug with all crashes and problems.

And no there is no need for trial tool.
I rather them see add story-mode for trials and dungeons for people to experience them in lore way. To get good gear, you need to earn it.

This... 100% this

Karmen · February 2020

Commandment wrote: »

I support this idea, we already removed, teaming up in BG's might as well remove interaction's in end game trials!!! YEAHHH FOR ANTI SOCIAL MMO'SSSSS

so, in pvp removing premade group is anti-social, but in pve adding a group finder is anti-social.
where is your logic ?

Karmen · February 2020

I only see elitist attitude from you all.

DMuehlhausen · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

and how can I do theses trials so ?

You can join 5 guilds.

Carespanker · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

Commandment wrote: »

I support this idea, we already removed, teaming up in BG's might as well remove interaction's in end game trials!!! YEAHHH FOR ANTI SOCIAL MMO'SSSSS

so, in pvp removing premade group is anti-social, but in pve adding a group finder is anti-social.
where is your logic ?

Making pve large group content queable means it has to be doable to a majority of the people that que for it, which means that the content will get easier to the point that players can autopilot and any1 with any gear at any level can complete it or you aren't "playing the way you want to play". Anyone who was there with WoW for their raid finder will tell you this is the case.

BG's losing group content is a mistake on their part. Unlike Pve you cant autopilot to success and have to work together to be the better team (aka the point of competitive group play). Taking away the preparation and social aspect that group play only makes the playerbase hate BG's because now its all RNG if you have a chance to win or lose instead of something you and your group can easily decide. Im going to tell you right now I do not have time to stop and type out a strat with 3 other randoms who are afk for their daily rewards lol.

As for Cyrodiil, yes you can go solo, but you also get the downsides of going solo and thats your choice to make and its your problem if you get zerged down.

Agenericname · February 2020

Karmen wrote: »

Commandment wrote: »

I support this idea, we already removed, teaming up in BG's might as well remove interaction's in end game trials!!! YEAHHH FOR ANTI SOCIAL MMO'SSSSS

so, in pvp removing premade group is anti-social, but in pve adding a group finder is anti-social.
where is your logic ?

Removing premades from BGs isnt really sonething that can be compared to PvE groups. 1. The more obvious, what's the alternative to entering? You can enter any dungeon or trial by simply porting there.

2. Its an experiment, meaning they're not sure if they're keeping it this way. They wanted to try and evaluate it.

Yes, as a matter of fact I did join a guild to bypass the RDF. You obviously do not tank.

Kawiki · February 2020

The only MMO I really ever remember seeing a Trial (or raid) finder was DDO. It was awesome, you could literally get in a raid 24/7. It allowed small guilds and solo players to really know and experience all the content. Sure there was the occasional bad group but overall it was fantastic.