Various Skills Breaking Shadowy Disguise

Decimus

Just tested this with a friend on PC EU after some very frustrating BG experiences.

Fixed an issue where using a single target charge, leap, or teleport ability would not remove targets from stealth or invisibility while you had a detection potion active.

It appears that not only people using detection potions take you out of stealth, but literally anyone who is just spamming a gap closer will now repeatedly break cloak and prevent you from stealthing, period.

Also it seems many other single target abilities are currently breaking cloak, Bound Armaments for instance:
https://youtu.be/Bc7OM9RvtOU


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Gilliam

Shadowshire

@Decimus

On which platform and mega-server does this situation occur? ZOS cannot investigate without that information. Please read the Guidelines For Bug Report Forum for the requirements and for advice about posting a useful bug report.

Decimus

Shadowshire wrote: »

@Decimus

On which platform and mega-server does this situation occur? ZOS cannot investigate without that information. Please read the Guidelines For Bug Report Forum for the requirements and for advice about posting a useful bug report.

On any that is affected by this cluster*** of a patch I'd assume, but I've updated the original post to state PC EU just to be clear.


This is a bug that happens anywhere, on any nightblade, severely impacts PvP gameplay and needs immediate fixing.


Repro:
1. Have your friend cast gap closer on you as soon as they can see you.
2. Cloak
3. Your cloak is broken by the gap closer.

Very simple.

reAct0r

Also Bound Armaments and other skills break cloak.
Please OP consider updating the thread title.

This has just been recorded on PC EU:

https://youtu.be/Bc7OM9RvtOU

Decimus

reAct0r wrote: »

Also Bound Armaments and other skills break cloak.
Please OP consider updating the thread title.

This has just been recorded on PC EU:

https://youtu.be/Bc7OM9RvtOU

Thanks for recording that, updated the thread.

Aleeyn

In fact I didn't understand why it happened, please fix it!

mav1234

this explains why experiences last night. felt like everyone that was gap closing me was using detect potions...

themaddaedra

Yes, i've had a few unfair kills against poor nightblades because of this. First time i was like did they add a revealing flare to my toppling charge or what then it turns out it's cloak that's rip.

Titain

I have noticed the NB are taking a beating since patch.

reAct0r

And here we go: we've also got a video for decloaking by light attack (projectile). This time the cloaking one is not a NB though...

https://youtu.be/5TNzgc-lRBs

Skullderic

Few hours playing in the IC, I was confused on how many players using Detect pots... I was getting slammed hard, by anything. pulling me out of steath.
This among the way spread bugs going on, Zos, get cracking on these fixes. 8)

Alamakot

True. Invisibility pots seem not working properly. Been trying to pass opened enemy scroll gates at Cyro to collect skyshard a couple of times at non-nb chars - everytime NPC gate guards kicked me out of invisibility

reAct0r

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom can we please have this bug acknowledged?
This issue is game-breaking for nightblades and I think it should be on the "Current Known Issues" post.
It can be easily reproduced and we already shared different videos explaining the issue.

Decimus

Update: gap closers are still consistently breaking cloak as of March 18th (after the latest incremental).

Xyvatel

Same issue on Xbox NA.

Decimus

Update, April 2nd: gap closers still consistently break cloak, skills such as Bound Armaments, Surprise Attack, Crushing shock sometimes break cloak.

In other words the skill is just as buggy as it was months ago when patch released.


Could we have an update on this, ZOS?

JayKwellen

I just created a nightblade a few nights ago, started seriously Cyrodiiling with her yesterday, and have noticed this same issue after only one day.

Full disclosure, my nightblade career spans all of a couple days in totality now, so I absolutely 100% am trash. I know this.

But still, I was having major issues with cloak. Often needing to spam it 4-5 times, as each time I would instantly get pulled right back out. The only times cloak "worked" was when I had plenty of distance from someone, and they weren't actively launching projectiles at me when I was attempting to cloak.

Gap closers, projectile attacks, basically anything would pull me out of cloak.

From the other perspective, prior to this on my DK I noticed that hitting invasion right after a NB hits cloak would still charge them and pull them out. The following is how it would usually happen:

Nightblade hits cloak -- I hit invasion -- Nightblade is completely stealthed, but my ability activates and charges them -- my character makes contact with the now completely stealthed nightblade and pulls them from stealth.

Likewise, even light attacks are going through cloak, as my character would "finish" the animation after they were cloaked and pull them out of it still.

I'm new to the cloaking mechanic, so please correct me if I'm wrong on anything, but I still don't believe cloak is supposed to be this easy to completely negate.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_JessicaFolsom -- this is occuring for me on XboxNA in BG's, and all Cyrodiil campaigns.

Decimus

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert

Cloak is still breaking from pretty much everything - gap closers cast on you are guaranteed to break it. Can we have an update on this? Are cloak bugs being fixed? Is the team aware of these bugs? Thanks.

Decimus

Gap closers (amongst other things mentioned in this thread) are still breaking Shadowy Disguise in Stonethorn PTS.

When can we expect an update on this?


I would also like to add yet another 100% reproducible cloak bug: Wild Impulse DoT (BRP Destro staff) breaks cloak every time it ticks on you.


Just a reminder that this thread was created in February.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Gilliam

Spartabunny08

JayKwellen wrote: »

I just created a nightblade a few nights ago, started seriously Cyrodiiling with her yesterday, and have noticed this same issue after only one day.

Full disclosure, my nightblade career spans all of a couple days in totality now, so I absolutely 100% am trash. I know this.

But still, I was having major issues with cloak. Often needing to spam it 4-5 times, as each time I would instantly get pulled right back out. The only times cloak "worked" was when I had plenty of distance from someone, and they weren't actively launching projectiles at me when I was attempting to cloak.

Gap closers, projectile attacks, basically anything would pull me out of cloak.

From the other perspective, prior to this on my DK I noticed that hitting invasion right after a NB hits cloak would still charge them and pull them out. The following is how it would usually happen:

Nightblade hits cloak -- I hit invasion -- Nightblade is completely stealthed, but my ability activates and charges them -- my character makes contact with the now completely stealthed nightblade and pulls them from stealth.

Likewise, even light attacks are going through cloak, as my character would "finish" the animation after they were cloaked and pull them out of it still.

I'm new to the cloaking mechanic, so please correct me if I'm wrong on anything, but I still don't believe cloak is supposed to be this easy to completely negate.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_JessicaFolsom -- this is occuring for me on XboxNA in BG's, and all Cyrodiil campaigns.

Dodge roll then cloak. Makes the incoming projectiles miss and not pull you from cloak. Enjoy.

SshadowSscale

Yup agree rhis has to be fixed.... Don't even need detect pots or aoe.... Just gapclose spam them.... Alao as mentioned light attacks and certain dots will just keep breaking it over and over

Decimus

https://clips.twitch.tv/PunchyPeppyCurryBCouch

Chronologically:

1. Sheer Venom DoT tick breaks cloak.
2. Gap closer breaks cloak.
3. Surprise Attack breaks cloak.
4. Gap closer breaks cloak.
5. Sheer Venom DoT tick breaks cloak.
6. Sheer Venom DoT tick breaks cloak.
7. Gap closer breaks cloak.
8. Gap closer breaks cloak.

All of that happened within 40 seconds.

kingsforged

Heh... well, this explains why my Nightblade felt absolutely worthless in my first attempts at BGs with it...

Decimus

So uh, September 14th, Stonethorn Update - half a year after making this thread.

I'd just like to report in that Shadowy Disguise is still bugged and breaks from things that shouldn't break it (gap closers, Bound Armaments etc), I was even breaking another NBs cloak by just weaving Surprise Attacks the other day.

kingsforged

Decimus wrote: »

So uh, September 14th, Stonethorn Update - half a year after making this thread.

I'd just like to report in that Shadowy Disguise is still bugged and breaks from things that shouldn't break it (gap closers, Bound Armaments etc), I was even breaking another NBs cloak by just weaving Surprise Attacks the other day.

lol pretty much everything breaks stealth at this point, don't expect anything useful to happen. We've got at least 2 game-breaking gap-closer bugs throughout a major PVP event, and they're waiting until AFTER to even try and fix it.

JinxxND

This needs to be looked at

Excaltic

@ZOS_GinaBruno - ETA on fix? 7 months and still not fixed!!!

Decimus

Oh, one more thing that has been reported but not mentioned in this thread: Unfathomable Darkness set breaks your own Shadowy Disguise whenever it lands on a target.

kingsforged

Decimus wrote: »

Oh, one more thing that has been reported but not mentioned in this thread: Unfathomable Darkness set breaks your own Shadowy Disguise whenever it lands on a target.

It's because sets are all scuffed and marked as direct damage hits. Venomous Smite does the thing when the AoE hits a target that wasn't the initial target - yet the initial target doesn't break stealth when they take damage from it... so the same effect is doing entirely different things.

Decimus

Oblivion's Foe also breaks Shadowy Disguise by the way, every tick.


Also the other things reported in this thread... still there. Still bugged.

Decimus

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Can we get an update on this issue? One of your six classes is literally unplayable during the ongoing PvP event due to their main defensive skill not functioning.