Does it make me a bad player if I only tank dungeons, because I know I'm not very good at DD?

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Honestly, I'm a little confused by this existential (in ESO) question, and thus decided I wanted to put it here.

I should stress, nobody has called me a bad player for a very long time. I only tank, as the title suggests, and if I do get a comment, it's usually "You tank with a Nightblade?!" XD

No, the idea that I might be a bad player comes entirely from myself, and my own thoughts.

Now, given that I freely admit I'm a bit rubbish at DD, would I be right in thinking like this? Or am I actually making a good choice by focusing on the role that I'm actually good at?

I guess I'm just curious as to what kind of player this all makes me.

Many thanks in advance.

Dracane

I am playing since Beta, used to be great in pvp, am a formidable tank and a unique healsupport.
But I do not play DD in pve, because I run out of magicka after 10 seconds and because I can not seem to follow a perfect rotation.

So the answer to your question is no, I think.

Most_Awesome

In short if you can join a pug group and do the job of a tank and get through the dungeon with bow light attack spamming Magblades, then you are doing good and just keep on doing what you enjoy.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Thank you guys. I do apologise, I was having a period of self-doubt, I believe.

Starlock

I think it's important to put things in perspective. Notably, that Elder Scrolls Online is a game and we should all be having fun with it; don't be too hard on yourself or too hard on others. Regardless of what anyone else says, you get to play your way.

That aside, I doubt you gave up trying to be a damage dealer just because of your own thoughts on the matter. I know I didn't. The bar set by the internet nobodies is ludicrous, and that's discouraging for just about anyone. Add to that the fact that damage dealer queue times aren't exactly short and it just makes a lot more sense to tank anyway if you're not interested in chasing numbers. I can't remember the last time I ran as a damage dealer through a dungeon. I don't miss it.

InaMoonlight

Not a problem, anyone should do what they DO feel like they have the knack for and feel like playing

Some feel for being the dps, heals, and others feel more comfy as tank. I mean, I can minitank in a pinch, but plzplz never make me the main tank lmao, dps and miniheals/buffs are my thing, I'd feel out of my depth doing the full-on tanking, so youre no less than any other player, you do what you feel good at/for, we do ours ;D

Luede

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Honestly, I'm a little confused by this existential (in ESO) question, and thus decided I wanted to put it here.

I should stress, nobody has called me a bad player for a very long time. I only tank, as the title suggests, and if I do get a comment, it's usually "You tank with a Nightblade?!" XD

No, the idea that I might be a bad player comes entirely from myself, and my own thoughts.

Now, given that I freely admit I'm a bit rubbish at DD, would I be right in thinking like this? Or am I actually making a good choice by focusing on the role that I'm actually good at?

I guess I'm just curious as to what kind of player this all makes me.

Many thanks in advance.

ur are not good with a DD and most people are not good with a tank. Important thing is that u are good with the role u play

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Starlock wrote: »

I think it's important to put things in perspective. Notably, that Elder Scrolls Online is a game and we should all be having fun with it; don't be too hard on yourself or too hard on others. Regardless of what anyone else says, you get to play your way.

That aside, I doubt you gave up trying to be a damage dealer just because of your own thoughts on the matter. I know I didn't. The bar set by the internet nobodies is ludicrous, and that's discouraging for just about anyone. Add to that the fact that damage dealer queue times aren't exactly short and it just makes a lot more sense to tank anyway if you're not interested in chasing numbers. I can't remember the last time I ran as a damage dealer through a dungeon. I don't miss it.

I will admit the queue times are a nice bonus. I do stand by though that my primary motivation for going pure tank was skill.

I like to think I can respect other people's time by putting myself in a role that I can do well, and to be honest, I just take too long to kill things as DD and also, die too often.

Vietfox

PvP is what makes you a good player.

mikikatze

I mainly heal, because being a DD does not spark joy. And I consider myself an ok player, which is enough for me. I even heal in PVP.

LukosCreyden

Everybody has that one role they are good at. For you, it seems tanking is the thing. Bonus points for being a Nightblade tank, which is both rare and cool as heck.

xWarbrain

Not at all. I have friends that are great as a tank or healer but are terrible DPS. I don't tank or heal, so if they're trash for not doing damage, I'm trash because I can't tank or heal.

That being said,

Vietfox wrote: »

PvP is what makes you a good player.

MusCanus

Vietfox wrote: »

PvP is what makes you a good player.

...and a terrible person, lol

Raisin

As others have said, no, definitely not. You don't have to be a master of all. If you're a good tank, and you play tank, you're a good player. You don't need to be theoretically good at something you're not actively playing to somehow get you MMO street cred.

I WILL say however, that at least getting reasonable experience in all roles will help you become better at your chosen role. You don't have to be good at them in the end, just gain some details on the perspectives you wouldn't even usually think to ask, and you will end up synergizing on a completely different level with your groups.
It's not a must, like nothing in the game is (just wanna make clear you don't have to torture yourself haha), but I do think it's worth it and I've definitely met my fair share of players where you could tell that that kind of experience was lacking and holding them back in comparison to others.

Vietfox

MusCanus wrote: »

Vietfox wrote: »

PvP is what makes you a good player.

...and a terrible person, lol

Hey hey, we can't have everything

exeeter702

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Honestly, I'm a little confused by this existential (in ESO) question, and thus decided I wanted to put it here.

I should stress, nobody has called me a bad player for a very long time. I only tank, as the title suggests, and if I do get a comment, it's usually "You tank with a Nightblade?!" XD

No, the idea that I might be a bad player comes entirely from myself, and my own thoughts.

Now, given that I freely admit I'm a bit rubbish at DD, would I be right in thinking like this? Or am I actually making a good choice by focusing on the role that I'm actually good at?

I guess I'm just curious as to what kind of player this all makes me.

Many thanks in advance.

First off, dont let anyone ever convince you NB is not a wise choice for tanking. Anyone that expresses surprise or confusion generally just doenst have the experience or plays in a very small bubble. I say this because at some point you WILL get into a not so good group (happens to us all) and when a few too many wipes occur, you will have that one idiot looking for somewhere to point his finger and a non DK tank is an easy culprit for those that are clueless.

Tanking has it's own set of learning curves, and while I adamantly stand by my belief that unlike most other mmos where tanking is usually the harder role to play, air tight perfect dps rotations is a more mechanically demanding skill than tanking in eso. I find tanking to be the least stressful of the 3 roles in this particular game based on reflecting on the other mmos I've played over the years.

If you enjoy tanking, then you are gravy.

kathandira

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Honestly, I'm a little confused by this existential (in ESO) question, and thus decided I wanted to put it here.

I should stress, nobody has called me a bad player for a very long time. I only tank, as the title suggests, and if I do get a comment, it's usually "You tank with a Nightblade?!" XD

No, the idea that I might be a bad player comes entirely from myself, and my own thoughts.

Now, given that I freely admit I'm a bit rubbish at DD, would I be right in thinking like this? Or am I actually making a good choice by focusing on the role that I'm actually good at?

I guess I'm just curious as to what kind of player this all makes me.

Many thanks in advance.

Nothing wrong with specializing if you are focusing on your strongest role.

Darkenarlol

let's say you are a great plumber but really bad ...piano player

and every day you meet piano players and they are bragging

about their piano skills...it is up to you to choose how to take

that - sitting in the dark corner and crying about your miserable

life and bad piano skills...

or raise your head in proud of your great skills at needed profession

(you can even look at those pesky pianists with pity because

most likely their plumbering skills are sooo baaaaad )

Aelorin

A bad player is a tank that does not taunt, block, heal, debuff. I am pretty sure you know what you are doing. You like tanking and a lot of people are looking for tanks. So relax, enjoy, and be a happy confident tank.

On the other hand, if you want to try out DPS, do not be afraid. We all started as noobs hitting like a wet noodle.

If you can master tanking, you can master DPS, and healing too.

I did it the other way. Started as a bad DPS, did not dare to enter a dungeon for a year because i was that bad, lol. got a bit better, switched to healing and did veteran dungeons. Got more confident. Tried to improve gear, rotation, animation cancelling. So now i can DPS. Then i was really afraid to start tanking, but i actually enjoyed it.

What i want to say. DPS Try it out, improve, and you will find one day that you will be better then average. It just takes practice.

Nestor

If you perform the Role you sign up for, you are a Good Player. Period.

The only debate point is being a well rounded player means you can be a Main or an Off Tank or a Tank that does DPS so as to carry the DPS. That is the thing that needs to be discussed.

Jaimeh

It makes you a player that's experienced in their role, and by no means bad. If you're performing the necessities of your given role then that's all that matters, after all the game should be an enjoyment and not a chore. Plus, more tanks in PvE are always a good thing.

Kesstryl

I guess the question you have to ask yourself is, are you happy being a tank? Or do you want to be dps but are afraid to? If you are happy being a tank, then by all means and Razum Dar's mohawk, keep being a tank. I also lack skill and dexterity due to carpal tunnel and don't dps in vet content, so I mainly heal or tank. Honestly I love tanking. I love being the meat bag being tossed around with the apocalypse raining down on me, but I'm not 100% awesome at it yet. I shine best as healer, and I like that too because it's easy and less stressful in group content. I find dps rotations to be extremely stressful and hard on my hands, plus with all the addons peeps have where they can brag about their numbers quite frankly embarrasses me, so I mainly solo quest content on dps or do normal group stuff. Figure out what role you actually love, and do the work needed to be great at it, and just enjoy yourself.

Royaji

You are (assuming from your post) a bad DD player. And a decent (again, assuming from what you've said) tank player.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Sorry that I've not responded much guys.

I've had a stressful few days IRL and it's caught up with me somewhat.

I'll be making a proper reply tomorrow after I get back home from a trip out.

dazee

It might make you bad at dps, but that does not make you a bad player. I know I am bad at dps, and good at healing in ESO.
My dps skills are improving slowly though.

GeorgeBlack

You are less able than players that tank dps and heal with their toons.
Less able than players that also PvP.

What happens next?

GeorgeBlack

Why does the opinion of strangers on the net matter?
Do you clear the content you enjoy?

BlissfulDeluge

I've done a lot of PvE content as a dps, but not nearly as much as a healer and a tank. I still play those roles and have fun with them, but we all do well with some things, and worse with others.

Some people excel at being damage dealers, others at playing supports. It doesn't make you a bad player to specialize, but it doesn't hurt to try to do the other roles to learn the basics of what everyone has to do.

lzzy

You recognize your strengths and are playing to it. Don't see what's wrong with that.

GeorgeBlack

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Sorry that I've not responded much guys.

I've had a stressful few days IRL and it's caught up with me somewhat.

I'll be making a proper reply tomorrow after I get back home from a trip out.

Reply to what bro? Stop stressing

MashmalloMan

No, I love you. We need more tanks so I don't wait 10+ minutes as a DD